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I am not going to waste my time with the Indian posters. What they say merely reflects their perspective. However I will say this to the Indian.
To the Indian & Pakistani
India has a problem. India want's to shine in the world. Whether we like it or not in the world we live in Western world matters a lot. If you get the West to buy your story you have effectively got the world to buy it because the West dominates the world. If I become famous in USA, my fame will spread to your Europe, from there it will spread to most of the Third Word.
India has a problem. The problem is since history began South Asia's window to the world has been the Indus Basin. In antiquity, in classic times and until very recently when the light was shone from the west towards east Indus Basin was the one to get lit up. Thus until the British came all Western, Persian, Arab history has focussed on Indus Basin. Indus Basin was the region the that got the primary historical interest of the west. The reason is simple. Geography.
In addition almost all the early civilizations took root in the Indus Basin and THEN spread east or west. The aggregate effect is most of the defining aspects of South Asia history took place in the indus Basin or areas contigous to it. For the modern Indian's a travesty of enormous proportions took place in 1947.
The land, the Indus Basin that most echoed through ancient history second only to Mesoptotamia escaped them. The Jewel of the ancient South Asia was in Pakistan. India was left with a few crumbs adjacent to the border. India is a huge country. The defining parts of India are the Ganges plain where most Indian live and the Peninisular India. Please refer to maps below.
Ganges Basin Map
Ganges Basin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Peninsular India
These two regions of India house perhaps 90% of India population. In fact they are India. Most of the great Indian cities fall within these gian regions of India. Dehi, Kolkutta, Mumbai, Chennai all the dense packed UP, Bihar and West Bengal including the cities that are making waves like Banaglore etc.
However both these regions were almost in the dark in antiquity. All the action was in the dry deserts of the Indus Basin. That is why Indus Basin is a the historical jewel.
Going back to 1947 the Indians felt cheated. Almost the entire jewel in the crown was torn out of their hands. What were they left with. Just across the Pak border in dry areas of India a few crumbs were left. The Indian's ignore the huge Ganges Basin, the huge Peninsular India which form 90% of India and focus their entire attention on border states of India. Gujrat, Rahasthan and Indian Punjab. Any observor will know these states are next to Pakistan.
This is because they closest they can get to the Indus Basin without crossing the border into Pakistan is going to these areas. That is why talk ancient history and I guarantee you the Indian's will sniff in the shadow of Pakistan's backside.
The Indian's have spent decades and in particular since 1990 in 'cooking up' history. They may not be able to bring the Indus River into India but they have come up with another idea.
They have actually cooked up a myth about a ancient river called 'Saraswati' and claim that it flowed along a certain axis which happens to either be in India or nearer India. Then they have found a brick or two and declared it as major Harappan site. Then false books have been written. This fraud has speeded up in the last 2 decades. I intend to expose this in a dedicated thread. Things have gone to the point that they now even call it 'Saraswati-Indus Civilization'. If you google now you cannot even avoid it anymore.
The reality is centre of IVC was in what is now Pakistan with branches spreading out into Afghanistan and parts of India. Its like if you have a large Mango tree growing in your garden branches might intrude into both neighbours garden. The Indians have grabbed the branches and claimed the root originally was in their garden.
That still leaves another problem. What about the people of Pakistan? They have already dreamed up that the river in ancient times flowed through India but what about the people of Pakistan. Simple. Apparently all the people who built Harappa packed their bags and moved to, yes you got it it present day India. You want to meet some 'Harappans' today?
Then whole bunch people from a Alien spaceship came and landed in Indus basin. A whole bunch of Aliens got out and moved into Harappa. So you want to meet a Harappan today? Go to Chennai, go to Mumbai, go to Kolkatta. All the Harappans are chilled out in India today.
So desperate are the Indian's to claim the jewel of South Asia history - Indis Basin that they have changed courses of mighty rivers, invented nerw rivers, moved entire people so that they can continue with thie fraud. This is most evident on Wiki. The Indian's have almost destroyed the history of Harappa to the point that it looks like a civilization in Mumbai then in Mohenjo Daro.
Even some observors outside have noted this fraud. Please read this:
HORSEPLAY IN HARAPPA
This fraud is so bad that even most of the Indian's have been brainwashed with this. Proof. Mention anything about Harappa which we know is in Pakistani Punjab and Indians will go crazy like bees being smoked in a beehive. In particular the Hindutwa parties have really spun this Hindu fable where everything comes from one thing ... Hindu scripture.
Have a look at the mythical Saraswati River. Can you see how the axis is being moved into india?
To the Indian & Pakistani
India has a problem. India want's to shine in the world. Whether we like it or not in the world we live in Western world matters a lot. If you get the West to buy your story you have effectively got the world to buy it because the West dominates the world. If I become famous in USA, my fame will spread to your Europe, from there it will spread to most of the Third Word.
India has a problem. The problem is since history began South Asia's window to the world has been the Indus Basin. In antiquity, in classic times and until very recently when the light was shone from the west towards east Indus Basin was the one to get lit up. Thus until the British came all Western, Persian, Arab history has focussed on Indus Basin. Indus Basin was the region the that got the primary historical interest of the west. The reason is simple. Geography.
In addition almost all the early civilizations took root in the Indus Basin and THEN spread east or west. The aggregate effect is most of the defining aspects of South Asia history took place in the indus Basin or areas contigous to it. For the modern Indian's a travesty of enormous proportions took place in 1947.
The land, the Indus Basin that most echoed through ancient history second only to Mesoptotamia escaped them. The Jewel of the ancient South Asia was in Pakistan. India was left with a few crumbs adjacent to the border. India is a huge country. The defining parts of India are the Ganges plain where most Indian live and the Peninisular India. Please refer to maps below.
Ganges Basin Map
Ganges Basin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Peninsular India
These two regions of India house perhaps 90% of India population. In fact they are India. Most of the great Indian cities fall within these gian regions of India. Dehi, Kolkutta, Mumbai, Chennai all the dense packed UP, Bihar and West Bengal including the cities that are making waves like Banaglore etc.
However both these regions were almost in the dark in antiquity. All the action was in the dry deserts of the Indus Basin. That is why Indus Basin is a the historical jewel.
Going back to 1947 the Indians felt cheated. Almost the entire jewel in the crown was torn out of their hands. What were they left with. Just across the Pak border in dry areas of India a few crumbs were left. The Indian's ignore the huge Ganges Basin, the huge Peninsular India which form 90% of India and focus their entire attention on border states of India. Gujrat, Rahasthan and Indian Punjab. Any observor will know these states are next to Pakistan.
This is because they closest they can get to the Indus Basin without crossing the border into Pakistan is going to these areas. That is why talk ancient history and I guarantee you the Indian's will sniff in the shadow of Pakistan's backside.
The Indian's have spent decades and in particular since 1990 in 'cooking up' history. They may not be able to bring the Indus River into India but they have come up with another idea.
They have actually cooked up a myth about a ancient river called 'Saraswati' and claim that it flowed along a certain axis which happens to either be in India or nearer India. Then they have found a brick or two and declared it as major Harappan site. Then false books have been written. This fraud has speeded up in the last 2 decades. I intend to expose this in a dedicated thread. Things have gone to the point that they now even call it 'Saraswati-Indus Civilization'. If you google now you cannot even avoid it anymore.
The reality is centre of IVC was in what is now Pakistan with branches spreading out into Afghanistan and parts of India. Its like if you have a large Mango tree growing in your garden branches might intrude into both neighbours garden. The Indians have grabbed the branches and claimed the root originally was in their garden.
That still leaves another problem. What about the people of Pakistan? They have already dreamed up that the river in ancient times flowed through India but what about the people of Pakistan. Simple. Apparently all the people who built Harappa packed their bags and moved to, yes you got it it present day India. You want to meet some 'Harappans' today?
Then whole bunch people from a Alien spaceship came and landed in Indus basin. A whole bunch of Aliens got out and moved into Harappa. So you want to meet a Harappan today? Go to Chennai, go to Mumbai, go to Kolkatta. All the Harappans are chilled out in India today.
So desperate are the Indian's to claim the jewel of South Asia history - Indis Basin that they have changed courses of mighty rivers, invented nerw rivers, moved entire people so that they can continue with thie fraud. This is most evident on Wiki. The Indian's have almost destroyed the history of Harappa to the point that it looks like a civilization in Mumbai then in Mohenjo Daro.
Even some observors outside have noted this fraud. Please read this:
HORSEPLAY IN HARAPPA
This fraud is so bad that even most of the Indian's have been brainwashed with this. Proof. Mention anything about Harappa which we know is in Pakistani Punjab and Indians will go crazy like bees being smoked in a beehive. In particular the Hindutwa parties have really spun this Hindu fable where everything comes from one thing ... Hindu scripture.
Have a look at the mythical Saraswati River. Can you see how the axis is being moved into india?
