Analysis of IAF Airpower vs PLAAF Airpower

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Now i know why India was angry on US after 27 Feb

Bro we did not fire any Pl15 rather F-16's fired Amraams to shoot both the aircraft. One mig 21 fell in Pakistan side and the other SU30 sell on the Indian side. Sticking to the official record made public

 

[S.Y.A]

Just like I said, Some Pakistanis have completely lost all shame. Look at Chinese version of twitter and you can see Chinese themselves are asking why State ceremonies were not held for the Chinese soldiers. They have been asking the Chinese leadership come out with actual casualties. Here, Pakistanis have been celebrating victories more than the Chinese making a mockery of themselves. Go out of this forum and read, even non Indian media.

Yes Chinese have been occupied land that India considers that is within her borders but what 20 soldiers did to a large number of Chinese soldiers is very different than what you believe. Chinese have their own doubts but its funny seeing some Pakistanis jump up and down form an echo chamber where even Chinese official word acknowledging casualties is not taken seriously.

First, you should prove your claim of "what 20 soldiers did to chinese". Second, i am simply saying that india should avenge her soldiers, why are you getting so butthurt over this simple statement?

 

[LeGenD]

Is the meteor missile better than the PL15? Does the meteor have longer range
than the PL15?

Having longer range does not guarantee a kill at extended range.

Outside the 'radar coverage envelope' of a combat aircraft, PL-15 would need continuous feed from the Chinese Beidou Network to stay on course and reach the designated target but Electronic Warfare can interfere with satellite feed. PL-15 might need to take cues from an AEW&C system to manage otherwise. This is assuming that an AEW&C system is operating nearby. This would come down to Chinese Netcentric warfare capabilities. The outcome is also contingent upon the capabilities of the adversary - what kind of countermeasures it is able to field, number of assets deployed, formations, tactics - all of this.

METEOR is reportedly among the most advanced long-range A2A missile designed thus far (the very best of European engineering effort in a while). It can take cues from multiple systems to stay on course, and its RAMjet propulsion allow it to achieve extraordinary speeds mid-flight but the missile is programmed to preserve its fuel until it close-in on the designated target, and its No Escape Zone is 'massive' - the target cannot escape. Netcentric warfare capabilities of the employer is an important consideration nevertheless.

Therefore, straightforward theoretical black-and-white comparisons are not very telling.

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American hardware lived up to its HYPE in BVR engagement capacity on 27-02-19 when employed by PAF to counter SU-30 MKI of IAF operating near LOC (around 100 KM mark) in spite of Indian Electronic Warfare efforts in view; Indian pilots had no choice but to scramble to safety (cowards that they are). And these missiles are older AIM-120C5 variant.

The current AIM-120D is much more capable. And the next-generation AIM-260 would push the envelope to far greater extent. Speak of resilience to numerous Electronic Warfare systems among other considerations.

 

[mig25]

American hardware lived up to its HYPE in BVR engagement capacity on 27-02-19 when employed by PAF to counter SU-30 MKI of IAF operating near LOC (around 100 KM mark) in spite of Indian Electronic Warfare efforts in view; Indian pilots had no choice but to scramble to safety (cowards that they are). And these missiles are older AIM-120C5 variant.

What Hype? It could not shoot down any aircraft from that distance. What it showed however was that PAF pilots did not want to come any where close to get a better shot at IAF planes in turn wasting a few super expensive BVRs. India's training is different, we don't fire and hope something gets hit.

Can you explain "Indian Electronic Warfare efforts" with proof please. Only one side displayed all its cards that day. The other side kept everything close to its chest.

 

[Counter-Errorist]

What it showed however was that PAF pilots did not want to come any where close to get a better shot at IAF planes in turn wasting a few super expensive BVRs

That's BVR Warfare 101. What was IAF's plan that day, ram into our jets?

India's training is different, we don't fire and hope something gets hit.

Balakot SoM lobs say otherwise.

 

[omegalamba7XL9]

no we DONT know how to fight

BUT WE BUTCHERED the northern light infantry in KARGIL using MIRAGE 2000
We annexded EAST PAKISTAN in 10 days and took 93000 POW from Pakistan
And in WW2 we indians sikhs hindus moslems won MORE victoria crosses than than common wealth country.

PS i am sikh NOT hindu

TELL ME hen CHINA last won a AIR CAMPAPIGN

BY the way GALWAN inicident has cost chinease over 40 dead ...........and that was with barehands

Lolzzz we did this we did that. You didn't do jack. The comparison of India China is same as Pakistan India. And your 56chested modi is pissing in pants.
Don't come here talking about we. It's not you its Hindu India. You need to get freedom from Hindu first before you make any claim as a Sikh. Cz India is Hindu country and Hindu's consider solh and hindu as same. And you said you are Sikh not Hindu same that means your word vs hindu word. If you are right and they are not same then you my friend are not free
If Hindu is right that Sikh and hindu are same people then no point discussing

 

[The Maverick]

40 to 60 PLA soldiers were killed in action in GALWAN.

This is why ITS so quiet from CHINA all plans for a showdown have evaporated

CHINEASE bluster and media ARE very meek & mild

They have seen the fighting spirit AND CAN see the lorry and after lorry of thousands upon thousands of India troops pouring into HIMLAYRS

THEY CAN see SU30 mki and mirage2000 fighters roaring over the himlayers

THIS IS NOT VEITNAM OR PHILLIPINES ......... THIS IS INDIA my friends

Lolzzz we did this we did that. You didn't do jack. The comparison of India China is same as Paksitan India. And your 56chested modi is passing in pants.
Don't come here talking about we. It's not you its Hindu India. You need to get freedom from Hindu first before you make any claim as a Sikh. Cz India is Hindu country and Hindu's consider solh and hindu as same. And you said you are Sikh not Hindu same that means your word vs hindu word. If you are right and they are not same then you my friend are not free
If Hindu is right that Sikh and hindu are same people then no point discussing

I am Indian origin first
British citzen second
Sikh third

 

[imran rashid]

THEY CAN see SU30 mki and mirage2000 fighters roaring over the himlayers

THIS IS NOT VEITNAM OR PHILLIPINES ......... THIS IS INDIA my friends

Thee were also roaring Feb 2019 too and then out-numbered

 

[nomi007]

Endian will forget 27 Feb
if war start between china & endia star

 

[Salman876]

Thee were also roaring Feb 2019 too and then out-numbered

and out-ranged

What Hype? It could not shoot down any aircraft from that distance. What it showed however was that PAF pilots did not want to come any where close to get a better shot at IAF planes in turn wasting a few super expensive BVRs. India's training is different, we don't fire and hope something gets hit.

Can you explain "Indian Electronic Warfare efforts" with proof please. Only one side displayed all its cards that day. The other side kept everything close to its chest.

Whatever you think, but Pakistan objective was achieved, we enforced peace (because we don't have money) and did not allowed India to use Raptor of East.

 

[steelTalons]

India's training is different, we don't fire and hope something gets hit.

we dont fire and F16s get hit*
we dont hit and claim 300 killed*

 

[Zarvan]

There is no comparison simply. China has more than 150 J 20 and more than 400 J-10 A and B and C versions and hundreds of J 11 and J 16 and than not to forget J 7 and J 8 and SU 35 and SU 30. So I repeat no comparison. Plus number of AWACS and Electronic Warfare aircrafts China has and finally India was exposed by us on 27th February 2019.

 

[mig25]

That's BVR Warfare 101. What was IAF's plan that day, ram into our jets?

When one side seemed to be testing its luck by firing from a distance that had zero effect. IAF's plan was to wait and watch you exhaust all your fire works before getting closer and firing for a kill. Alas, your pilots found out too soon and retreated.

 

[Counter-Errorist]

When one side seemed to be testing its luck by firing from a distance that had zero effect. IAF's plan was to wait and watch you exhaust all your fire works before getting closer and firing for a kill. Alas, your pilots found out too soon and retreated.

By zero effect, you mean 2 birds down, 1 pilot captured, and Indian military losing all credibility.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

There is no comparison simply. China has more than 150 J 20 and more than 400 J-10 A and B and C versions and hundreds of J 11 and J 16 and than not to forget J 7 and J 8 and SU 35 and SU 30. So I repeat no comparison. Plus number of AWACS and Electronic Warfare aircrafts China has and finally India was exposed by us on 27th February 2019.

Its not only about number of Fighter Jets dear. The Air Bases close to India matters too. How many Airbases China has closer to Aksai Chin and how many are NOT build on upper altitude thereby negating Full payload carrying capacity? Also can China risk by deploying its major Aerial assets with India when US, Japan, Taiwan are in SCS? Third from where did you get 150 J20 number?