An interesting development : Army acquisitions !

[Sulman Badshah]

It is always known that PAF has operated aircraft manufactured by different countries. So it is likely that China, Turkey and US aircraft would be part of PAF soon.

PAF could look something like this
Air Superiority TFX & FC-31
Second line F-16's & JF-17
Advance Training T-50 & K-8
Basic Training Mushak & Hurkus
Drones

PAF is considering 2 types of 5th gen fighter jet ....
After showing interest in T50 we can say that PAF might also considering KFX in future as well ...

 

[shah1398]

Indeed hardships bring in inherent relief in the end. The enemy thought that through terrorism they can (GOD FORBID) disintegrate Pakistan. But because of the BLESSINGS of ALLAH, resilience of Pakistani Nation and determination of Pakistan Armed Forces not only the so called 2014-15 map has been made a dream but ALHUMDULILLAH we have become more proficient in all spheres of Defence. Enemy thought that they can make us weak but instead not only the defence capabilities of Pakistan expanded rapidly, Nation became united but also indigenisation in the field of defence manufacturing has rapidly expanded. Because of this not only other countries have started to look for training from Pakistan Armed Forces but also but also defence related exports have jumped up to a new height. History is witness to the fact that only those nations have risen above and progressed whose militaries were the strongest. a new era for Pakistan is starting soon IN SHA ALLAH. New Hi Tech acquisitions for all Armed Forces are need of hour.
Pak Fauj Zindabad,
PakistanPaindabad.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

PAF is considering 2 types of 5th gen fighter jet ....
After showing interest in T50 we can say that PAF might also considering KFX in future as well ...

You are correct the PAF is considering TFX and J-31 as 5th Generation Fighters.
Why PAF is looking for T-50?
1) It is because the K-8 is a good trainer but not as advance as the T-50.
2) PAF would like to have two separate pilots trained for western and eastern fighter aircraft.

KFX is also going to be a twin engine 5th Gen fighter which would be developed in collaboration with USA.

The thing with TFX is when it was being designed there was a single engine design that was later disregarded but still that design could be developed. So if Pakistan is able to pay the cost then it would be able to get a single engine TFX along with the muti-engine designed one.

You would be aware that Pakistan is also considering JF-17 stealth one though it is hush hush on PDF.

If we consider the Easterly threat then they are going to induct the PAK-FA / AMCA / Rafale Stealth variant and possibly F-35 would also be sold in the near future. This indicate 4 types of 5th generation aircraft. Pakistan would require 50% of these capabilities to have a realistic deterrence.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Aselsan + Kaplan and Fifth Gen Aircraft with Turkey we are interested in??

Heli + Frigates + Tanks + IFV + Anti air defence system and Aircraft (j-31) from China

IFV + Anti air Defence + 5th gen jet program + Logistics Support Ship From Turkey....???

 

[princefaisal]

Which anti-aircraft system is better in terms of performance i.e accuracy and working during extreme jamming:-

Turkish Aselsan Self Propelled Anti-AirCraft Gun (SPAAG) system
or
Swedish OERLIKON 35 mm AAA GDF 005 with skyguard radar system

 

[Thunder.Storm]

You are correct the PAF is considering TFX and J-31 as 5th Generation Fighters.
Why PAF is looking for T-50?
1) It is because the K-8 is a good trainer but not as advance as the T-50.
2) PAF would like to have two separate pilots trained for western and eastern fighter aircraft.

KFX is also going to be a twin engine 5th Gen fighter which would be developed in collaboration with USA.

The thing with TFX is when it was being designed there was a single engine design that was later disregarded but still that design could be developed. So if Pakistan is able to pay the cost then it would be able to get a single engine TFX along with the muti-engine designed one.

You would be aware that Pakistan is also considering JF-17 stealth one though it is hush hush on PDF.

If we consider the Easterly threat then they are going to induct the PAK-FA / AMCA / Rafale Stealth variant and possibly F-35 would also be sold in the near future. This indicate 4 types of 5th generation aircraft. Pakistan would require 50% of these capabilities to have a realistic deterrence.

Plz explain kfx and tfx what are these abbri..?

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Korean Fighter X (KFX)
Turkish Fighter X (TFX)

 

[omega supremme]

It is always known that PAF has operated aircraft manufactured by different countries. So it is likely that China, Turkey and US aircraft would be part of PAF soon.

PAF could look something like this
Air Superiority TFX & FC-31
Second line F-16's & JF-17
Advance Training T-50 & K-8
Basic Training Mushak & Hurkus
Drones

high chances we will either go for TFX or J-31
but,
j-31 is easy to get where as there maybe few obstacles put in getting TFX from other countries(america)

but in between j-31 and TFX i would go for TFX as it is air superiority aircraft and will be equal to our today's f-16 and will do it's roles

 

[Path-Finder]

To add to the list
MPT-76 replace G3?
possible future Turkish AWCS and Radar systems?

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

high chances we will either go for TFX or J-31
but,
j-31 is easy to get where as there maybe few obstacles put in getting TFX from other countries(america)

but in between j-31 and TFX i would go for TFX as it is air superiority aircraft and will be equal to our today's f-16 and will do it's roles

Well the Turkish Fighter X does not have any thing form USA. The engine would most likely be Euro Jet 200 or a local Turkish engine which is being made with the help from Ukraine.
The weapon systems would all be made locally in Turkey.
Avionic systems and countermeasures are also to be local Turkish.
The radar would also be a Turkish one.

This would make is relatively easy to integrate TFX in PAF and same can be said for J-31

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

A close source accompanied a delegation to turkey has told that an agreement has been made betwen china on the joint production of the HJ 9 missle system. And turkey on their self propelled anti air systems.

How or when this will be made public .who knows.

HJ-9 is an ATGM..


HJ-9:

Which anti-aircraft system is better in terms of performance i.e accuracy and working during extreme jamming:-

Turkish Aselsan Self Propelled Anti-AirCraft Gun (SPAAG) system
or
Swedish OERLIKON 35 mm AAA GDF 005 with skyguard radar system

Skyguard is already in Pak military service.

@kaonalpha Do you have a source for this?

 

[Agni-5]

I am noticing one thing we all of a sudden are getting way more secretive than we ever were, even during Chinese President visit we have signed several defense deals but no one is made public

that's just how the game is played.

just don't fool yourself into thinking that 100% info about Indian military acquisitions/capabilities are available on the internet.

 

[salarsikander]

that's just how the game is played.

just don't fool yourself into thinking that 100% info about Indian military acquisitions/capabilities are available on the internet.

Hi,
Yes, especially recent blowing up of submarines are quite evident of that

 

[Agni-5]

Hi,
Yes, especially recent blowing up of submarines are quite evident of that

mistakes are made and accidents happen..

neither india nor pak can claim to be at the US's level in terms of efficiency and maintenance, and even they have had incidents.

my point was about the supposed hush-hush secret military deals when Xi Jinping visited your country.

no matter what, the public will never know a lot of what goes on in the military establishments, it's for the best.

 

[New World]

@Agni-5 apka bolna zarori tha???


TFX will be joint venture or not??
few days ago, I heard turkish PM says that they won't partnerd with any foreign company..