An account of 1965 | Book review posted in India Today

[Kompromat]

Right. So wouldn't you say that that makes the tile of the thread....ummm, how do I put it...a wee bit misleading? To give the impression that those quotes are from India today, rather than from the review of a book written by an author who was paid for by a pakistani air marshal?

2 of the authors are Indians.

 

[janon]

2 of the authors are Indians.

That may be. I'm pointing out that the title of the thread makes it sound like these quotes are from India today, instead of a book review.

 

[Foo_Fighter]

I can't believe mods resort to misleading title here *sigh*

 

[Kompromat]

Title has been corrected

 

[RAMPAGE]

Sir @Muradk sent me this today.

You filthy troll

 

[chauvunist]

Dear Lord!!!The GOC of Indian Army who dreamt of drinking whisky in Lahore Cantonment ended up in a Sugar cane field full of Animal's filths...

 

[GURU DUTT]

Dear Lord!!!The GOC of Indian Army who dreamt of drinking whisky in Lahore Cantonment ended up in a Sugar cane field full of Animal's filths...

he he he he what a nation who is celbrating on blunders done by there genreals who tried to rest kashmir from india but where whipped like a stray dog asnd came close to loosing there second biggest city which they could onli manage to save when there feild marshel ran to tashkent with his tail between his legs and still pauing for it by there blood waise its just one jeep what about 340+ patton tanks that you lost

Battle of Asal Uttar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



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[Shadow_Hunter]

A claim, no doubt, assiduously gleaned from highly myopic accounts of Indian nationalists.

For starters, lets have the numbers and sources upon which the said numbers are based. I could say that India lost more men than Pakistan, lost more territory, and that Kashmir was not an objective of open warfare. But then I should be ready to substantiate these claims. Can you provide credible references?

Is library of congress good enough source for you?

http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdy:@field(DOCID+pk0152)

What the above poster said is a common knowledge for the whole world, unknown only to the pakistanis 

Dear Lord!!!The GOC of Indian Army who dreamt of drinking whisky in Lahore Cantonment ended up in a Sugar cane field full of Animal's filths...

Good, now you have proved that Pakistan won the since it took only 3800 soldiers for them to capture this jeep. That should be a good deal for pakistanis

 

[chauvunist]

Is library of congress good enough source for you?

http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdyfield(DOCID pk0152)

What the above poster said is a common knowledge for the whole world, unknown only to the pakistanis 


Good, now you have proved that Pakistan won the since it took only 3800 soldiers for them to capture this jeep. That should be a good deal for pakistanis

Its not your fault as you are brain washed by your textbooks and bollywood......Neutral sources claim it otherwise....Even your newspapers are posting about our victory in 65...

 

[Chak Bamu]

Is library of congress good enough source for you?

http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdyfield(DOCID pk0152)

What the above poster said is a common knowledge for the whole world, unknown only to the pakistanis 


Good, now you have proved that Pakistan won the since it took only 3800 soldiers for them to capture this jeep. That should be a good deal for pakistanis

I looked at the source. Where are the numbers for Indian losses? Who wrote it? What did they base their guesstimates on? This is no better than a blog entry by a school boy. Sources and numbers - that is what matters. What you have given is some opinion by someone who pulled these numbers from who knows where. I would term it a pretty desperate reference.

I addressed @Ajatashatru. Let him defend his contention. You tried and failed. Better butt out now troll.

Perhaps Pakistan lost some soldiers. What did India loose. Ever wonder?

 

[Shadow_Hunter]

I looked at the source. Where are the numbers for Indian losses? Who wrote it? What did they base their guesstimates on? This is no better than a blog entry by a school boy. Sources and numbers - that is what matters. What you have given is some opinion by someone who pulled these numbers from who knows where. I would term it a pretty desperate reference.

I addressed @Ajatashatru. Let him defend his contention. You tried and failed. Better butt out now troll.

Perhaps Pakistan lost some soldiers. What did India loose. Ever wonder?

Instead of displaying your own ignorance like a clown, why don't you post some sources here yourself which are "better"? my source atleast mentions the losses on the pakistani side. What have you contributed till now? Your idiotic comments trying to show yourself as some intelligent soul which you clearly are not.

No one cares whether it is a "desperate" reference according to you since you yourself don't matter. You asked for a source and I gave it. And its library of congress. You are incapable of accepting the truth so now you are resorting to trolling. Typical pakistani behaviour.

 

[chauvunist]

Ohkk dear idiot. First go and read what neutral sources claim before displaying your stupidity here.

Hence proved who is stupid and idiot here...Out of arguments after being shown what's right and here comes Genius with personal attacks....

 

[Shadow_Hunter]

Hence proved who is stupid and idiot here...Out of arguments after being shown what's right and here comes Genius with personal attacks....

Yeah personal attacks. Just go and look for what the neutral assesments have to say. You posted 1 link, I can post 10. Infact, they are already on wiki. Read something from there and come back before spewing BS here kid.

 

[chauvunist]

Yeah personal attacks. Just go and look for what the neutral assesments have to say. You posted 1 link, I can post 10. Infact, they are already on wiki. Read something from there and come back before spewing BS here kid.

Its not your fault to accept reality as its been installed in to your mind very deep down by you text books and bollywood...I am not blaming you..

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Do not forget that in 1965, there was an all out effort by the Americans to credit PAF more than they achieved.

First, Pakistan was member of CENTO and SEATO military groupings of American origin.

Second, US wished to take huge credit for their built military hardware's success against British and French built military hardware which the Indian Armed forces fielded. The Soviet Military hardware had not shown up in South Asian battlefields in 1965.

I suggest that joy of great amount of success of Pakistani Airforce or Pakistani military which some forum members express is not well founded.

At the end of the war in 1965, there were 340 Pakistani Patton tanks destroyed. Some brand new were in Indian hands because they Risaldars were not fully trained in the computers of the Patton Tanks.

It is irony to state that supersonic F104 and F86 fighter fell to slow but highly but slow Indian Gnats.

The above need to be considered before a self praise of victory that too by highly dubious sources is proclaimed.

I would say that A

Dont spread Wrong information.