American attack aftermath: Pakistan declares attack a 'plot'

[Safriz]

and with this refusal..we are back to 1947 when Colonial power ruled us...Today its the same

 

[StandForInsaf]

salmakh84 99% and niazifighter 85% posts are anti Pakistan , i doubt they are false flagers.

 

[StandForInsaf]

Haha. You are still sleeping my friend. Pakistan cannot **** americans. we GAVE them the BASE for $$$ We are Killers for $$$. We cant kill our own master!

If you would have read the FIRST POST, you can see the time line.. News is TODAYS! But just to compare, a SIMILAR news is given from JUNE 2011..

hohoho hold just make things clear they might be ur masters not mine , slave mentality idiot.

 

[Bill Longley]

It was clear from General Nadeem’s briefing that there was misleading information being provided to the Pakistan military from the start. Just before the attack, a Pakistani officer at the regional tactical center was informed by an American sergeant that their special forces had received indirect fire from Gora Pai, located some 15 kilometres away from Volcano post. And after 7 minutes, a woman officer informed him that the fire had, in fact, come from Volcano, which had been hit in retaliation.

‘Unprovoked’: DGMO gives details of aerial assault – The Express Tribune
NATO AND US IS LIEING. NO THEY ARE SHAMELESSLY TRYING TO BLAME THEIR INTENSIONAL KILLING ON AGGRIEVED PARTY
Shame less liers they are

 

[OrionHunter]

Shamsi Airbase is Pakistan's property not America's property.

Sorry, you may have your facts wrong. Shamsi base was NOT Pakistan's property! The airfield was leased to the UAE by Pakistan and was used for years by the rich Arab sheiks from Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries for falconry trips.

Pakistan Air Chief Rao Qamar Suleman had also disclosed that Pakistan’s Shamsi Air Base is under the control of United Arab Emirates, not in the control of Pakistan Air Force while briefing a joint in-camera session of Pakistan parliament on 13 May 2011.

However, it is apparent that the lease may have now been cancelled as the UAE has not impressed upon Pakistan to review its decision of asking the United States to withdraw from Shamsi Base. So, as things stand, the US may have to vacate Shamsi by 11 Dec 2011 after all. Sources say that U.S. planning is under way to leave the base by the scheduled date.

According to U.S. government sources, the United States has spent months preparing for a possible eviction from the Shamsi base by building up other drone launching and staging capabilities inside Afghanistan. Vacating the base was seen more as an inconvenience rather than a critical blow to drone operations which the United States also conducts from Afghanistan and possibly elsewhere.

 

[Cheetah786]

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’s military said on Friday a communications breakdown prevented its air force from engaging NATO aircraft when they attacked two border outposts and killed 24 Pakistani soldiers.

The November 26 strike near the Afghan border has sparked fury in Pakistan and further complicated US-led efforts to ease a crisis in relations with Islamabad and stabilize the region before foreign combat troops leave Afghanistan in 2014.

In a statement on its public relations website, Pakistan’s military, which sets foreign and security policy, said that its response to the Nato strike could have been more effective had it been able to scramble its aircraft in time.

“The response could have been more effective if PAF (Pakistan Air Force) had also joined in. However, it was no fault of PAF,” the statement said.

“The timely decision could not be taken due to breakdown of communication with the affected posts and, therefore, lack of clarity of situation, at various levels, including the Corps Headquarters and GHQ (General Headquarters).”(This changes every thing now that i no why the Air force didn't do its job cause they were incompetent oh i mean communication failure )

Exactly what happened at the Pakistani posts along an unruly and poorly defined border is still unclear.

Pakistan said the attack was unprovoked, with officials calling it an act of blatant aggression. US officials, quoted in the Wall Street Journal on Friday, claimed Pakistani officials cleared the air strike without realizing they had troops in the area.

The US Embassy in Islamabad on Thursday released a video statement on YouTube by Ambassador Cameron Munter in which he expressed regret for the attack but stopped short of an apology. Both the United States and Nato have promised to investigate the incident, expressing regret on the deaths of Pakistani soldiers but the White House said it was premature to consider apologizing when an investigation was still in its early stages.

Pakistan has shown its anger over the attack by blocking supply routes for Nato forces in Afghanistan, and pulling out of an international conference in Germany next week on Afghanistan, depriving the talks of a central player in peace efforts.

Western leaders have urged Islamabad to rethink its decision to boycott the conference, but Pakistani Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar said a reversal was unlikely.

“I don’t think there is a very strong case to reconsider this decision at all,” she told reporters on Friday. Pakistan has a long history of ties to militant groups in Afghanistan so it is considered to be uniquely positioned to help bring about a peace settlement, a top foreign policy and security goal for the Obama administration.

Pakistan planes would have engaged NATO in attack: Army – The Express Tribune

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Sorry, you may have your facts wrong. Shamsi base was NOT Pakistan's property! The airfield was leased to the UAE by Pakistan and was used for years by the rich Arab sheiks from Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries for falconry trips.

Pakistan Air Chief Rao Qamar Suleman had also disclosed that Pakistan’s Shamsi Air Base is under the control of United Arab Emirates, not in the control of Pakistan Air Force while briefing a joint in-camera session of Pakistan parliament on 13 May 2011.

However, it is apparent that the lease may have now been cancelled as the UAE has not impressed upon Pakistan to review its decision of asking the United States to withdraw from Shamsi Base. So, as things stand, the US may have to vacate Shamsi by 11 Dec 2011 after all. Sources say that U.S. planning is under way to leave the base by the scheduled date.

According to U.S. government sources, the United States has spent months preparing for a possible eviction from the Shamsi base by building up other drone launching and staging capabilities inside Afghanistan. Vacating the base was seen more as an inconvenience rather than a critical blow to drone operations which the United States also conducts from Afghanistan and possibly elsewhere.

I hope you are aware that leasing a place doesnt transfer the title to the lessee, he is just renting like any commercial or residential property. and there are always conditions to the lease and the lessor can cancel the lease so your reasoning is misplaced.

whether UAE was using the base or not is irrelevant, it was finally Pakistan’s decision to let the Americans use it since it wasnt affecting their own operations in anyway.


whether USA needs this base or not, whether they find a better place elsewhere, whether their supplies are dropped by NASA etc etc are all irrelevant, Pakistan had few options to exercise after the NATO attack and closing border, boycotting the Bonn Conference and requesting the closure of operations at shamsi were one of them to express its protest.

 

[VelocuR]

There is no need to 'ask' PAF to retaliate.....they are the ones with the eyes on the horizon...they should respond automatically and ask the intruding forces to move back, land or be shot down.

Simple.....and thats the Standard Operating Procedure.....for most of the nations.

Remember the Hainan island incident...

That's exactly same thing, Pakistan soldiers (28 Martyers) did self-defence to fire back which is unsuccessful. What's other options? or make soldiers died?? I begin recognize Pakistan Army is weak and incompetent to protect Pakistan in numerous times. Simple Somalia state. By the new decision from Kiyani, it doesn't make differences. Don't forget the high tension during OBL raid.

This article explained it all.
Pakistan planes would have engaged NATO in attack: Army – The Express Tribune

“The response could have been more effective if PAF (Pakistan Air Force) had also joined in. However, it was no fault of PAF,” the statement said.

“The timely decision could not be taken due to breakdown of communication with the affected posts and, therefore, lack of clarity of situation, at various levels, including the Corps Headquarters and GHQ (General Headquarters).”

Hainan Island incident, there was response from China's interceptor fighter jet to force it down. Did Pakistan do simple or stupid sitting-ducks PAF?

It make us mad.

 

[Mujahid]

Pakistan Prepares for U.S. Attack, Bild Reports, Citing Document

By Rainer Buergin - Dec 2, 2011 12:35 PM GMT+0500

Pakistan has taken measures to prepare for a possible attack by U.S. forces, Germany’s Bild- Zeitung reported, citing a classified document by the U.S. government’s Combined Joint Intelligence Operations Center.

Pakistan has set up defensive positions in the border region with Afghanistan in response to an attack the country’s military sees as potentially imminent, Bild cited the document as saying.

Numerous anti-aircraft radar installations are in place to track low-flying vehicles, increasing Pakistan’s capability to spot helicopters and drones, Bild said.

Afghanistan will suffer a civil war once the International Security Assistance Force leaves the country, Bild also reported, citing U.S. military intelligence.

Pakistan Prepares for U.S. Attack, Bild Reports, Citing Document - Bloomberg

 

[VelocuR]

US and NATO will try different tactics and new method attack on Pakistan, Kiyani have no clue of what happen next....

Army GHQ Attacks
ISI Dept Attacks
OBL raid
Mehran Attacks
NATO Attacks


Prediction:
Kiyani assassinated by terrorist attacks?
Nuke Attacks (false flag)?

More accurate attacks within next 12 months before Obama election.....Local commanders (weak) will be out of control unsuccessfully to attract more intrusions attacks within deep inside Pakistan.

 

[Sinnerman108]

PAF would not DARE go near there.

Sad but that is what the truth is and it seems they have learned NOTHING since the last 3 years and specially after 1999.

The men in blue are earning a LOT of shame for us.

 

[S.M.R]

Thanks, they didn't come up with the statement that they were out of fuel like Railway.

 

[OrionHunter]

US officials, quoted in the Wall Street Journal on Friday, claimed Pakistani officials cleared the air strike without realizing they had troops in the area.

Good God Almighty! Another twist in the tail!! How did Pakistani officials not have known that their two posts, 'Volcano' and 'Boulder' were not occupied, clearing the air strike?

 

[Controlled Pair]

Looks like Pakistani & NATO negligence may have caused this accident.

Pakistani officials at a border coordination center gave the go-ahead to American airstrikes that inadvertently killed 24 Pakistan troops, unaware that their own forces were in the area, according to U.S. officials briefed on the preliminary investigation.

When called, the Pakistani representatives at the center said there were no Pakistani military forces in the area identified by the commandos, clearing the way for the Americans to conduct the airstrikes, the U.S. officials said.

Officials in Islamabad couldn't be reached to comment on the U.S. allegations. Pakistan repeatedly has denied its forces fired on the Americans.

Pakistan doesn't have veto authority over strikes along the border, U.S. officials said. But the North Atlantic Treaty Organization makes contact with the center to make sure its operations don't put Pakistani troops or aircraft in the line of fire.

Pakistan Cleared Fatal Hit, U.S. Says - WSJ.com


Friendly fire happens in every war. It's just a pity Islamists and the enemies of the west within Pakistan have taken this opportunity to try and cause divisions between Pakistan and NATO/US.

 

[Leviza]

Looks like Pakistani & NATO negligence may have caused this accident.



Pakistan Cleared Fatal Hit, U.S. Says - WSJ.com


Friendly fire happens in every war. It's just a pity Islamists and the enemies of the west within Pakistan have taken this opportunity to try and cause divisions between Pakistan and NATO/US.

already posted no need to create more and more threads

it was biggest lie, they were army posts not any temp campsites ..