American attack aftermath: Pakistan declares attack a 'plot'

[VCheng]

Mr Cheng says he is waiting for the official NATO report to come out, ..............

.. because that is the correctly impartial thing to do at this point in time.

 

[53fd]

Do you see the irony? You are thinking in terms of the Army and the "bloody civilians" while I am looking at PAKISTAN. You tell me who speaks for PAKISTAN? Whatever happened to "sab sey pehlay Pakistan"?

The attack was an unacceptable violation of Pakistan's sovereignty, & there were no "bloody civilians" being killed here, but Pakistani troops themselves. If it were not for "sab se pehlay Pakistan", these troops would have never given up their lives defending this country. Your bias against the Army is showing its ugly head. The fact of the matter is that the world has made it clear that NATO's actions were unacceptable. The solution of this unprovoked & foolhardy aggression by NATO Forces is not to go on war against them as you want them to, that will destroy the region & will do no good for anyone, this situation will be dealt through the appropriate channels, & NATO will have to suffer the consequences of its actions through these appropriate channels.

 

[VCheng]

..........The solution ............. is not to go on war against them.............. that will destroy the region & will do no good for anyone, this situation will be dealt through the appropriate channels, ................

Only this part is correct enough that I can agree with it.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

PhotoBlog - Pakistan releases first images of border posts attacked by NATO

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Oh I will be here alright.

yea yea i am sure you will be here defending their excuses even if they are lame.

 

[53fd]

.. because that is the correctly impartial thing to do at this point in time.

Then why are you giving credence to unnamed officials (who were speaking from a personal capacity), claiming they represent Pakistan's version of the story? Or are you just demonstrating your 'impartiality' once again? You can repeat the words 'fair & impartial' as many times you like, or have them as your avatar, but you clearly don't demonstrate any of it throughout your posts.

 

[Pukhtoon]

Amid rising anger, Pakistan's military has released a set of images which it says show the remote border posts attacked by NATO helicopters and fighter jets on Saturday in an incident that has soured relations between Pakistan and the United States. Reuters reports:




PhotoBlog - Pakistan releases first images of border posts attacked by NATO

 

[Luftwaffe]

Latest from Pentagon:
- Attacks were not deliberate, stance and statements from Pakistani side are not correct, pentagon.
- Nobody knows the real details of these attacks, pentagon.
- There are no secret talks-meetings taking place between Pakistan and US, pentagon.
- No comments on vacating Shamsi Air Base, pentagon.
- We have not stopped munition-weapons sales to Pakistan, pentagon.

 

[53fd]

Mr Cheng, in the spirit of referring to official sources, would you accept China's & Russia's official positions that the NATO's attack was an unacceptable breach of Pakistan's sovereignty?

 

[mjnaushad]

Latest from Pentagon:
- Attacks were not deliberate, stance and statements from Pakistani side are not correct, pentagon.
- Nobody knows the real details of these attacks, pentagon.
- There are no secret talks-meetings taking place between Pakistan and US, pentagon.
- No comments on vacating Shamsi Air Base, pentagon.
- We have not stopped munition-weapons sales to Pakistan, pentagon.

So according to NATO-US, they don't know anything any details yet of the attacks, this is suspicious pilots flew from closest air base crossed into Pakistan targets Pakistani Posts on the border and goes back and return to finish off, return to air base and briefs and de-briefs and NATO-US does not know, why would it take 25 days to investigate the crew and CO is in Afghanistan.

You need time and careful planning ..... Need to see every angle... if you want to twist the facts....

 

[VCheng]

Then why are you giving credence to unnamed officials (who were speaking from a personal capacity), claiming they represent Pakistan's version of the story? Or are you just demonstrating your 'impartiality' once again? You can repeat the words 'fair & impartial' as many times you like, or have them as your avatar, but you clearly don't demonstrate any of it throughout your posts.

The FACT remains that everybody blinded by emotionalism and vested patriotism was screaming "bloody murder of sleeping soldiers 2.5 km inside Pakistan" including military officers (?intentionally) leaking information to the press, and that has shown to be WRONG.

My clarity of thought is above all of this, and shall remain so.

Watch next as the issue of whether the incident was "unprovoked" or not is also settled.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

you want us to start a WAR with the US? if they were indian assets, you would have seen a different reaction!

well if they were indian, they'd be fireworks.......in times of war, PAF already demonstrated that our skies are unsafe for indian invaders. Many indian pilots who survived and are still miraculously breathing today can attest to that.

back on point -- quite frankly, once NATO aircrafts are inside of our territory and inflicting harm (on soldiers especially) that in itself is already an act of war because they knew what they were doing......this is something between the forces on both sides; I personally think that as soon as the rounds went off, those aircrafts should have been shot down. No questions asked.

 

[karan.1970]

afghan officials have said that pakistan fired first, pakistan is contradicting this.

plus the known co ordinates/position, plus the ignored communications, plus the uniformed personnel, plus the 2 hour kill mission.

Yeah.. but 2.5 km was a big factor thrown about all over the place.. People like Agno, Bilal, Aryan were continuously questioning on how Pakistan could fire on Afghans/NATO forces since there is no gun that could fire 2.5 km in the given terrain. With 300 yards point, there is an altogether different angle to this now.. The initiation of firing by Pakistani forces is no longer an impossibility

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I think After getting fire you fire on the possible incursion points to keep it suppressed......

And here you may have the reason why the heli returned..

 

[Birbal]

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He doesn't mince his words.

 

[mjnaushad]

Yeah.. but 2.5 km was a big factor thrown about all over the place.. People like Agno, Bilal, Aryan were continuously questioning on how Pakistan could fire on Afghans/NATO forces since there is no gun that could fire 2.5 km in the given terrain. With 300 yards point, there is an altogether different angle to this now.. The initiation of firing by Pakistani forces is no longer an impossibility

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And here you may have the reason why the heli returned..

Yup.... They were firing and sleeping at the same time......

And the point remains .... why were they here at the first place.....