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American attack aftermath: Pakistan declares attack a 'plot'

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i think pakistan is not invited..

The Bonn meeting is aimed at bringing together Western and regional leaders to map out a strategy for Afghanistan after the withdrawal of foreign combat forces in 2014

does pakistan has the will or the resources to take up any constructive position in afganistan..no !

i think all the routs of trade to Afghanistan are routed through Pakistan.

Pakistan provide free trade facility through its sea port . . . . . so all the opportunity cost is help from Pakistan . . . . . make your calculation . . . . $$$$$$$$$$$$$

so Pakistan is key here . . . . .
 
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This is not "Breaking News" this was announced like a day after the attack on PA troops.
 
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Merkel very sorry about Pakistan boycott of Afghan meet

BERLIN: German Chancellor Angela Merkel said Tuesday she was "very sorry" about Pakistan's announced boycott of a Bonn conference next week on the future of Afghanistan and would try to convince it to attend.

Merkel said Germany would still "see what could be done to change" Islamabad's decision to bow out of the meeting in the western German city, taken in protest at NATO air strikes which killed 24 Pakistani soldiers.

"We are both interested in constructive development of Afghanistan," Merkel told reporters at a joint press conference with visiting King Abdullah II of Jordan.

"Which is why I consider the conference hosted by the (German) foreign minister to be very important.

We always said that conflicts can only be resolved in the region and Pakistan is part of this region which is why we are very sorry that this cancellation came today."

Merkel said that Berlin had not given up on convincing Islamabad to reverse its decision and attend the Bonn meeting, which will bring together foreign ministers from around 100 countries to discuss commitments to the war-ravaged country after the withdrawal of NATO troops in 2014.

"I understand Pakistan's concern about the loss of human life due to NATO troops but this should not distract from the fact that this Afghanistan conference is a very, very important conference," she said.
 
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Most of us didn't even know these talks existed until Pakistan opted out. So don't act like it's breaking news.
 
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You mean there is a final official investigative report by PA out, that the ISPR used as the basis for its public statement?
Final investigative report in the public domain? No.

But the PA has investigated the attacks on its end and established the facts, as relayed by the DG ISPR.

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Wasnt some initial reports saying that most of the Pakistani soldiers died while they were asleep..
That remains the Pakistani position AFAIK - the majority of the soldiers were asleep - there were however guards on duty of course.
 
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Pakistan’s decision on Shamsi airbase should be honoured: ISAF


KABUL: Pakistan’s decision of asking the US to vacate Shamshi airbase within 15 days should be honoured, said the spokesman for ISAF on Tuesday.

The spokesman added that the decision was a matter of Pakistan’s sovereignty

During a press briefing the spokesman expressed his hope that the government of Pakistani would join the Nato attack investigation and both parties would be united in their quest to build regional security.
 
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ISAF,NATO attacks on Pakistani posts on Afghan border not unintended: DG MO


RAWALPINDI, Nov 29 (APP): Terming the strikes on Pakistani posts by Coalition and International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) force unprovoked act of blatant aggression, Director General, Military Operations, Maj Gen Ishfaq Nadeem said on Tuesday that attacks were not unintended in which all coordination procedures were violated. “The positions of the posts were already conveyed to the ISAF through map references and it was impossible that they did not know these to be our posts,” he said while briefing columnists, defence analysts and television anchorpersons here at GHQ. Chief of General Staff, Lt General Waheed Arshad was also present during the briefing.

The DG MO said that there were four border communication centres to coordinate operations against militants but,unfortunately, all Standard Operating Procedures (SOPs) were violated by ISAF and North Atlantic Tearty Organization (NATO) on the night of attack.
The area where the attacks were carried out was already cleared of the militants by Pakistani forces and there was not any cross border movement of terrorists from Pakistan to Afghan territory, he added.

The DG MO apprised that prior to this incident, there had been three attacks which were carried out from across the border in 2008, 2010 and 2011 killing 14 Pakistani soldiers and injuring another 13 troops.

“No information regarding inquiry of these attacks was shared or provided to us despite our repeated requests and when provided, it was inaccurate and incomplete,” he added. Giving details of the incident, he said after the midnight on November 26, 2 to 3 helicopters appeared and started engaging Volcano post breaking down all communication systems.
In response, the Boulder post engaged helicopters with anti aircraft guns and all available weapons. The helicopter also attacked this post.
He said all channels of coordination methods were immediately activated. “We informed them about the attack. But, the helicopters reappeared and also engaged the Boulder post.”

In both attacks, 24 soldiers including two officers embraced Shahadat while 15 others sustained injuries, he added.
Responding to a question, regarding response, he said that army deployment on the Western border was not against ISAF and NATO forces rather it was against militants.

When asked why did the ISAF and NATO attack on Pakistani posts and what type of advantage they wanted to get, he said that people could better analyze in the backdrop of environment emerged after the May 2 incident. To a query, he said the response of the Government was adequate and mentioned the Defence Cabinet Committee (DCC) meeting and vacation of Shamsi airbase.

About Pakistan Air Force response, he said the situation was not clear till morning so considering on ground situation which was not clear, the PAF was not asked to respond. He said that the President, Prime Minister and Defence Minister were informed about the incident on the next morning after situation became clear.

To another question, he said that Army also takes deaths of civilians in Drone attacks very seriously and said the attacks should be stopped as these were proving counter-productive and increasing militancy.

Regarding Afghan media reports about shelling on Afghans from Pakistani side, he said that Afghan media reports were totally incorrect and there was no truth in them. The Afghan government officials have agreed that the information shared by locals with them was totally wrong.

Associated Press Of Pakistan ( Pakistan's Premier NEWS Agency ) - ISAF,NATO attacks on Pakistani posts on Afghan border not unintended: DG MO
 
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Most analysts were already looking at the talks as meaningless, especially after the ones in Turkey, which were supposed to have acted as a 'launch pad' for the policies that would have been agreed upon in Bonn.

I know some people are concerned about Pakistan 'losing a voice' at the conference and therefore in the 'end game', but the 'voice' that really matters is not going to be determined at the conference, but between the major players in Afghanistan.
 
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Final investigative report in the public domain? No.

But the PA has investigated the attacks on its end and established the facts, as relayed by the DG ISPR.

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That remains the Pakistani position AFAIK - the majority of the soldiers were asleep - there were however guards on duty of course.

If there is a final internal report, not made public understandably, then it is good. Let us see if ISPR are able to project the findings to maximum advantage.
 
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^^ I agree, bonn would not have bring much change to the failed talks in turkey but i think may be Pakistan could have taken the opportunity to present his point of view over NATO raids and share our side of story with western world.
 
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Pakistan


Pakistan’s decision on Shamsi airbase should be honoured: ISAF


KABUL: Pakistan’s decision of asking the US to vacate Shamshi airbase within 15 days should be honoured, said the spokesman for ISAF on Tuesday.

The spokesman added that the decision was a matter of Pakistan’s sovereignty

During a press briefing the spokesman expressed his hope that the government of Pakistani would join the Nato attack investigation and both parties would be united in their quest to build regional security.


Pakistan must do independent investigation and reports, not joint with NATO bullshitting probe.
 
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so this will the FINAL WORD on the incident and we will live happily ever after! - pl spare me!

Not at all.

My point is that both sides need to produce final reports that can form the basis for not only understanding what happened, but also help reduce the likelihood of any such future incidents.

Throwing tantrums will not help anybody.
 
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Pakistan must do independent investigation and reports, not joint with NATO bullshitting probe.

There is not much to investigate on our side.....we were attacked by NATO helis well inside border its as simple as that..

what else is there to investigate ?
 
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