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American and Philippines demographic engineering against Moro Muslims

Zero_wing said:
Because its the areas of moro majority and face facts not the whole of mindanao is moro land you forgot the lumads? so please you just hate filipinos that's all and those guys are haters they hate peace they use violence to suit their own ends

Face facts sir you just got schooled and your too coughs up in lala land to face facts just like your so called country using old (made up) maps to say the whole sea belongs to your people alone and other nations dont matter which is bull all over and other thing they way your people is using a dead poachers death to get more resources from mine next question batanes province too so typical b.s
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Your Visayan and Luzon colonists swamped BOTH the Moros and the Lumads and then dispossesed them of their lands. You think by injecting them into this argument that everyone would be distracted? The Moro Sultanates also at one point held political control and sovereignty over the entire Mindanao so the Lumads were also their subjects and not subjects of the Philippines colonial administration.

As for making up claims it was actually your country that made up a totally false claim to the Spratly Islands after Republic of China (Taiwan) already occupied and claimed them.

Vietnam Joins the World - Google Books

Where in the World is the Philippines?: Debating Its National Territory - Rodolfo Severino - Google Books

The Law of the Sea and Northeast Asia: A Challenge for Cooperation - Hmi-gwOn Pak - Google Books

Spratly Islands (reefs, South China Sea) -- Encyclopedia Britannica

And if we go back further in history, the Ming dynasty Yongle Emperor appointed a Governor over Luzon island before the Spanish arrived.

Connecting and Distancing: Southeast Asia and China - Google Books

In Our Image: America's Empire in the Philippines - Stanley Karnow - Google Books

Turning Points I' 2007 Ed. - Antonio, Et Al - Google Books
 
Wholegrain said:
Your Visayan and Luzon colonists swamped BOTH the Moros and the Lumads and then dispossesed them of their lands. You think by injecting them into this argument that everyone would be distracted? The Moro Sultanates also at one point held political control and sovereignty over the entire Mindanao so the Lumads were also their subjects and not subjects of the Philippines colonial administration.

As for making up claims it was actually your country that made up a totally false claim to the Spratly Islands after Republic of China (Taiwan) already occupied and claimed them.

Vietnam Joins the World - Google Books

Where in the World is the Philippines?: Debating Its National Territory - Rodolfo Severino - Google Books

The Law of the Sea and Northeast Asia: A Challenge for Cooperation - Hmi-gwOn Pak - Google Books

Spratly Islands (reefs, South China Sea) -- Encyclopedia Britannica

And if we go back further in history, the Ming dynasty Yongle Emperor appointed a Governor over Luzon island before the Spanish arrived.

Connecting and Distancing: Southeast Asia and China - Google Books

In Our Image: America's Empire in the Philippines - Stanley Karnow - Google Books

Turning Points I' 2007 Ed. - Antonio, Et Al - Google Books
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wow nice try but many know facts that northern Mindanao is always non moro again you forgot the Lumads to your propaganda? That's water under the bridge unlike your colonies of Tibet and East Turkestan which are now seeking Independence from Imperial Maoist Government of mainland china. And other thing we never colonized by china we traded with china by various Filipino kingdoms, Raja nets, Sultanates and Barangays (Name in honor after malay sailboats who brought them to the Philippines) but you people did try to attack us 1574 using chinese pirates (wow just like today) Limahong who raid filipino towns near the coast and had a base in Pangasinan who he called his kingdom until Spaniards and filipino militia finally brought his reign of terror to an end but said to say he got away with murder but no one heard from him again though as for your so called evidence its already point give that your so called indisputable claims is illogical for one its being disputed two since ancient times is illogical as well no once can claim a whole sea or any large bodies of water and again due to modern International law which china has to obey and follow just like the rest of us says that archipelago nation like the Philippines have claims to islands near the its base as part of its ccontinental shelf and being an Archipelagic States which state has full sovereignty over these waters (like internal waters), but foreign vessels have right of innocent passage through archipelagic waters (like territorial waters). and Contiguous zone Beyond the 12-nautical-mile (22 km) limit, there is a further 12 nautical miles (22 km) from the territorial sea baseline limit, the contiguous zone, in which a state can continue to enforce laws in four specific areas: customs, taxation, immigration and pollution, if the infringement started within the state's territory or territorial waters, or if this infringement is about to occur within the state's territory or territorial waters. This makes the contiguous zone a hot pursuit area. and also Exclusive economic zones (EEZs)These extend from the edge of the territorial sea out to 200 nautical miles (370 kilometres; 230 miles) from the baseline. Within this area, the coastal nation has sole exploitation rights over all natural resources. In casual use, the term may include the territorial sea and even the continental shelf. The EEZs were introduced to halt the increasingly heated clashes over fishing rights, although oil was also becoming important. The success of an offshore oil platform in the Gulf of Mexico in 1947 was soon repeated elsewhere in the world, and by 1970 it was technically feasible to operate in waters 4000 metres deep. Foreign nations have the freedom of navigation and overflight, subject to the regulation of the coastal states. Foreign states may also lay submarine pipes and cables. Last time i check if we use both your nationalist and maoist logic its still invalid due to international agreements and laws name unclos and last time i check Taiwan is not a country its having problems with its international position unlike the nation your questioning the Philippines full recognized state so this propaganda of half trues and whole lies is just other typical imperial justify attempt to get resources from the all of the world and Philippines illegally and force nations like my country on unequal treaties like this is the 19th century and gun boat diplomacy is still allowed nice try to use our internal troubles to forward your illogical mindset but folks here know better typical chinese nazi mindsets. laughable :omghaha: trying to past this nonsense as facts while only half of it is true and the rest are just to forward your agenda of imperialism.
 
@Zero_wing @gambit

Did this wholegrain fella remind you of someone who used to be here and said he quit a long time ago?

He remind me of Martian a lot, the way his post was filled (Using a lot of Link and hyper), the way he argue and the point he raise. Most of all he claim he is a taiwanese and currently living in America. Which was the same as Martians.

Don't forget, wholegrain comes out only after Martians said he is going to retire form this forum?? Wholegrain registered in may and martian2 have this Thread I'm leaving. Tired of arbitray "no-value/off-topic" moderation standard in may 2013,

co-incident? I don't really think so
 
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I love how OP always list that much references to support the facts, I love reference.

I also love how those trolls who like to pointing around the indoors issue of China, yet their own land is just a mess and ever worse, are slapped by the OP.
 
jhungary said:
@Zero_wing @gambit

Did this wholegrain fella remind you of someone who used to be here and said he quit a long time ago?

He remind me of Martian a lot, the way his post was filled (Using a lot of Link and hyper), the way he argue and the point he raise. Most of all he claim he is a taiwanese and currently living in America. Which was the same as Martians.

Don't forget, wholegrain comes out only after Martians said he is going to retire form this forum?? Wholegrain registered in may and martian2 have this Thread I'm leaving. Tired of arbitray "no-value/off-topic" moderation standard in may 2013,

co-incident? I don't really think so
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:cheesy:

Chinesetiger1986 strongly disagrees with you

http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-...med-fisherman-philippines-67.html#post4448650

Martian2 says he was raised in a KMT household

http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian...rategic-partnership-expert-2.html#post2509545

What I said about the KMT

http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-...seizes-taiwan-fishing-boat-2.html#post4290768

http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-...seizes-taiwan-fishing-boat-2.html#post4290840

Me

http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-...med-fisherman-philippines-68.html#post4452860

http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-...med-fisherman-philippines-67.html#post4440265

http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-...med-fisherman-philippines-66.html#post4428694

http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-...med-fisherman-philippines-67.html#post4440265

Martian2

http://www.defence.pk/forums/chinese-defence/152851-taiwan-elections-4.html#post2497422

Me on China copying from other countries

http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-...hes-chief-designer-chinese-8.html#post4523235

Martian2 boasting on China's new military technology

http://www.defence.pk/forums/chinese-defence/128872-martian2s-objective-views.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...ndigenous-technology-highly-questionable.html

Oh and I'm not known for having obnoxious opinions on any countries economy. In fact I rarely comment on economic matters and I never boasted about China producing indigeneous technology.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/europe...-size-like-germany-according-worldbank-2.html
 
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Enough is enough. It's time for a cruise missile strike on Manila to free the Moros from their evil occupiers the Pinoys.
 

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