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Aman ka Tamasha

Can there be peace between India and Pakistan without solution to Kashmir dispute?


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I want to ask PDF Pakistanis what do they make of the continued insistence of the Pakistani government towards peace with India while India imposes terrorism as means of foreign policy to extend her hegemonic designs in the region.

Road to Peace goes through Kashmir and not through TAPI and IPI.
 
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I think we need peace at this point until we can get back on our feet. We have to get out of this economic mess first so that we aren't easily blackmailed by FATF types.

With India there can only be Aman ka tamasha until the Kashmir issue is resolved. The fact that there are votes to be had in India by escalating with Pakistan shows that it will be a long time before we can have actual peace.
 
What trade do you have to offer India? You cannot even produce ball bearings in the country
Our export to india is 335 Million dollar per year. It includes Salt, Nuts, edible fruit, Melons,Sulphur , stone, cement, optical, medical apparatus, cotton, steel, copper, Sugar. Now, you don't please get sugar for this truth. Not good for your Health:D
 
Yes. The possibility is there. Once India would be able to substantially subdue and subjugate Pakistan. All depends upon the rate of decline of Pakistan, particularly on 1) economic front and 2) the gravity of internal dissensions. This is what India is trying, since 1947; but since about 10 years, this attack from India has become truly hybrid and multidimensional.
 
Our export to india is 335 Million dollar per year. It includes Salt, Nuts, edible fruit, Melons,Sulphur , stone, cement, optical, medical apparatus, cotton, steel, copper, Sugar. Now, you don't please get sugar for this truth. Not good for your Health

There is more illegal trade with India than legal trade with India.

Why do you want to trade with people who are raping Kashmir and imposing war on you? Is it worth it to have 335 million dollar trade and 10 billion dollar loss each year just so that few capitalists can have easy earnings.
 
Yes why not. India China is doing trade and it is increasing every year even with such hot border dispute of Aksai chin.
I agreed
yes there can be peace as uneasy as its been sometimes
by stopping covert and overt hostilities towards each other

peace is possible without resolution.
accept status quo
India stops the economic and diplomatic sabotage of Pakistani relations
stops support of BLA & other militants active in Pakistan
Pakistan also addresses all Indian concerns re LeT JeM and bans and dismantles all such militant organisations
 
There is more illegal trade with India than legal trade with India.

Why do you want to trade with people who are raping Kashmir and imposing war on you? Is it worth it to have 335 million dollar trade and 10 billion dollar loss each year just so that few capitalists can have easy earnings.
IOK Kashmiri became jihadis. They are even doing bomb blasts & suicide attacks. Pulwana suicide attacker was kashmiri . Should we support them?
 
I agreed
yes there can be peace as uneasy as its been sometimes
by stopping covert and overt hostilities towards each other

peace is possible without resolution.
accept status quo
India stops the economic and diplomatic sabotage of Pakistani relations
stops support of BLA & other militants active in Pakistan
Pakistan also addresses all Indian concerns re LeT JeM and bans and dismantles all such militant organisations

Accepting the status quo means declaring LoC as IB. Which will be overwhelmingly rejected by the Pakistani people.

Do you know any Pakistanis who are doing covert or overt sabotage of India within Indian territory? Please do enlighten us.
 
what is the point of cheating ?? the students are cheating themselves of their own futures

I want to ask PDF Pakistanis what do they make of the continued insistence of the Pakistani government towards peace with India while India imposes terrorism as means of foreign policy to extend her hegemonic designs in the region.

Road to Peace goes through Kashmir and not through TAPI and IPI.

Yes. The possibility is there. Once India would be able to substantially subdue and subjugate Pakistan. All depends upon the rate of decline of Pakistan, particularly on 1) economic front and 2) the gravity of internal dissensions. This is what India is trying, since 1947; but since about 10 years, this attack from India has become truly hybrid and multidimensional.

It is a soft, defensive and thoughtless strategy that is bound to bring great pain.

Nobody minds peace. In fact, I would imagine everybody wants peace and thriving trade.

The problem is our lack of leverage in the relationship and India's increasingly audacious and more offensive stance both via its proxies (TTP/BLA and the like) and its own military.

Finally, the fact that this region is going to be split pretty clearly on pro-China VS containing-China grounds, NATO states and their media machines will give India a "get out of jail free" card repeatedly. We can kid ourselves all we want --- we can cry to the UN with dossiers filled with proof of Indian meddling in Balochistan, we can highlight the plight of Kashmiris living under illegal Indian occupation --- nobody else is going to come do our job for us. We have to be strong enough to introduce consequences on and raise the cost for R&AW officers/Indian policy hawks. Without any negative incentives, we're just inviting more trouble. It is a senseless strategy bordering on utter lunacy.
 
Where is guarantee or even a glimpse of this happening?
none

just like we cant give any guarantee to Indians that there wont be any terror attack inside Mainland India
(a demand repeated by various Indian prime ministers and rejected by Pakistan for being absurd).
 

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