Allegation of using Afghanistan against Pakistan

[VCheng]

Yes you are right but it's the job of Shah Mehmood Qureshi.

SMQ works to implement the policies decided by PMIK.

 

[JohnWick]

SMQ works to implement the policies decided by PMIK.

And PMIK works to implement the politics decided by establishment.

 

[VCheng]

And PMIK works to implement the politics decided by establishment.

It's all good. What is more important is what is decided and how it is best implemented to serve national interests.

 

[JohnWick]

It's all good. What is more important is what is decided and how it is best implemented to serve national interests.

But he also revives some advices from Bushra Monika.

 

[VCheng]

But he also revives some advices from Bushra Monika.

As I said above, it's all good. What is more important is what is decided and how it is best implemented to serve national interests, rather than the people.

 

[JohnWick]

As I said above, it's all good. What is more important is what is decided and how it is best implemented to serve national interests, rather than the people.

Yeah like transfer of IG police for just asking a question to PM wife's exhusband.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

But there is also this thinking by many people in Pakistan:

"We cannot blame foreign hand for our internal problems. We have to take responsibility for our own doings."

This is not a popular opinion in Pakistan. We are well aware of Indian involvement in terrorism in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

I remember some bhangi bharti saying something along the lines of fighting Pakistan to the last Afghani.

 

[VCheng]

Yeah like transfer of IG police for just asking a question to PM wife's exhusband.

Off topic here, and therefore irrelevant.

 

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Looking at the number of recruits they pick up in Afghanistan and the number of cells they have active the TTP as a group with no local support or other major income (like drugs, smuggling, etc), wouldn't be able to exist as an organisation without the monetary support of some third party.

You're expecting interviews with the random Afghan villagers that want to gun-down civillians and blow themeselves up, but they aren't going to know what is happening higher up; they are fed a completely different story and forced/coerced into doing these things. However the former TTP spokesperson Ehsanullah Ehsan has stated quite clearly the link between the TTP and India.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

These people were from my city and I knew them this was an Indian and Israeli sponsored attack.

http://www.dawn.com/news/775143

You knew the victims. Did you know the investigators of the blast?

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

Looking at the number of recruits they pick up in Afghanistan and the number of cells they have active the TTP as a group with no local support or other major income (like drugs, smuggling, etc), wouldn't be able to exist as an organisation without the monetary support of some third party.

You're expecting interviews with the random Afghan villagers that want to gun-down civillians and blow themeselves up, but they aren't going to know what is happening higher up; they are fed a completely different story and forced/coerced into doing these things. However the former TTP spokesperson Ehsanullah Ehsan has stated quite clearly the link between the TTP and India.

It is just a clue. It proves nothing.

Pak media alleges mistreatment of 1971 POWs. But someone on this forum said that he was from the village from where many of those POWs hailed and they didn't complain of any mistreatment while they were POW in India. Of course they didn't get five star treatment but the Geneva conventions were followed and they were held in decent conditions of basic living.

Another example of media reports being at variance with authentic accounts.

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[Kamikaze Pilot]

Regarding allegations of India using Afghanistan against Pakistan and causing terrorism in Pakistan by using Afghanistan as launchpad to send terrorists into Pakistan...

Can anybody throw authentic light on this allegation?

Please don't post links from media or statements by famous people or some video. Not even admission by Indians themselves of using Afghans to needle Pakistan. For example, Ajit Doval may be claiming using Afghans to fight Pak just to gain attention and publicity.

Post first hand accounts by people who actually know the truth on the ground.

For instance, some PDF members or their relatives may have been to ground zero of Af-Pak. Like someone's uncle or cousin or friend may have served in security forces on the Western border or you may be personally knowing some police who actually interrogated some captured Afghan terrorist. Or even ordinary civilians residing in border areas can throw light on the question of alleged Indian connection to Afghan terrorism.

First hand accounts are the most authentic and reliable ones.

So can anybody here cite such real anecdotes which were learnt on ground zero of Afghan terrorism and which suggest links between Indian agencies and Afghan terrorists?

And if at all this allegation is true, when (which year) India started doing this and how deep has been Indian involvement?

And to emphasise... Please post firsthand accounts only and not media's bullsh1t.

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[Arsalan]

Regarding allegations of India using Afghanistan against Pakistan and causing terrorism in Pakistan by using Afghanistan as launchpad to send terrorists into Pakistan...

Can anybody throw authentic light on this allegation?

Please don't post links from media or statements by famous people or some video.
.

So no news report, all of them are telling lies!!

Not even admission by Indians themselves of using Afghans to needle Pakistan. For example, Ajit Doval may be claiming using Afghans to fight Pak just to gain attention and publicity.

Sahi!!!

What do you want really? Expecting some terrorist to join the forum or call you on your cell to confirm the Indian hand in his activities? Will that be enough?

What a childish post really. You wont agree to what media says, you wont admit what your officials say, not even what your captured terrorists say! Childish!!

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

So no news report, all of them are telling lies!!


Sahi!!!

What do you want really? Expecting some terrorist to join the forum or call you on your cell to confirm the Indian hand in his activities? Will that be enough?

What a childish post really. You wont agree to what media says, you wont admit what your officials say, not even what your captured terrorists say! Childish!!

You don't know the ways of the world. For example Indian media says that in 2002 Gujarat riots, 2000 people died.

Years later I would think, "In 1984 anti-Sikh riots, in a single city of Delhi, 3000 were killed. In 2002 Gujarat riots, the whole state was burning, yet only 2000 were killed! How come?" Such instances put question mark on the credibility of media.

Then two of my Muslim friends revealed to me that the real death toll in Gujarat riots was 20,000-30,000.

Now you understand why such word of mouth is more trustworthy.