ALL Xinjiang related issues e.g. uyghur people, development, videos etc, In here please.

[Baz2020]

Nice diversion. Brother, COVID came in late late 2019. You guys should have older footage right?

Retaededness at its best. Do something better than playing the western games

 

[beijingwalker]

Children in Xinjiang and their dream

 

[denel]

This is from Id Kah mosque three days ago, people coming out after fajr prayers

Really. Please show of actual prayers. where have the people disappeared.

Compare this from 2014.

If you feel that was a biased post; here is actual footage from CCTV itself.

As I noted, please kindly post of this week's eid prayers and last Friday's prayers too.

Also why was footage deleted for all mosques - you can see the police man who was following them.
Same scene of missing people - only a few people vs thousands and overflowing.

Wrecked mosques, police watch: A tense Ramadan in Xinjiang

While Muslims around the world celebrated the end of Ramadan with prayers and festivities this week, the recent destruction of dozens of mosques in Xinjiang highlights the increasing pressure Uighurs and other ethnic minorities face

www.rappler.com

Let me tell you this anti-intellectual anti-China person, China not only does not allow Muslims to pray, it also does not allow Christians to pray, and does not allow large gatherings.
Because of covid-19!
Idiot!

Since when.... i posted footage from your own CCTV showing how big the eid gatherings were. Now nowhere.

Covi19 - really.

Kindly explain below first....

An Indian Girl Beating Army Soldier in Bazaar On Harassing Her - Watch How Respected Indian Army Is

An Indian Girl Beating Army Soldier in Bazaar On Harassing Her - Watch How Respected Indian Army Is

www.unewstv.com

Please stick to the post vs adopting a diversion tactic. You need to stick to the topic and discuss vs labelling it as propaganda. It is not correct.

If you cannot have anything to state, please leave this thread and do not divert this thread into something totally different.

Salams to you.

 

[denel]

Nice diversion. Brother, COVID came in late late 2019. You guys should have older footage right?

Correct; let us see last week's friday prayers or this upcoming Eid prayers.

Compare it just even to 2014, 2016 footage - it is beyond comprehension what is happening.

I couldn't care any less about a Pakistani complaining to his government. I simply disagreed with your insinuation that "it's propaganda".

Unfortunately, the question of conscience is not there. Everything not in the official ccp narrative is seen as propaganda.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

As US Whistle-blower Sibel Edmonts says in her interview, the Chinese version on Xinjiang is closer to the truth than the rest from US, Turk or Western media.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

This interview with US whistleblower Sibel Edmonds was done 6 years ago.

That was when all the terrorism in Xinjiang was really hot and ignored completely by the West.

Now we know the hidden hands behind all these terrorism.

Today China has very effectively handle it.
No a single incidence of theft terrorism.

And so these foreign interventionists are moved to Uyghur slavery and cotton.

 

[denel]

China Targets Muslim Women in Push to Suppress Births in Xinjiang
Amy Qin

Mon., May 10, 2021, 7:56 a.m.

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Outside a bazaar in Kashgar, in the Xinjiang region of China, in 2019. China has moved aggressively to subdue Uyghurs and other Central Asian minorities in the region, including by ramping up enforcement of family planning limits. (Gilles Sabrié for The New York Times)
When the government ordered women in her mostly Muslim community to be fitted with contraceptive devices, Qelbinur Sedik pleaded for an exemption. She was nearly 50 years old, she told officials in Xinjiang. She had obeyed the government’s birth limits and had only one child.
It was no use. The workers threatened to take her to the police if she continued resisting, she said. She gave in and went to a government clinic where a doctor, using metal forceps, inserted an intrauterine device to prevent pregnancy. She wept through the procedure.
“I felt like I was no longer a normal woman,” Sedik said, choking up as she described the 2017 ordeal. “Like I was missing something.”
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Across much of China, authorities are encouraging women to have more children, as they try to stave off a demographic crisis from a declining birthrate. But in the far western region of Xinjiang, they are forcing them to have fewer, as they tighten their grip on Muslim ethnic minorities.
It is part of a vast and repressive social reengineering campaign by a Communist Party determined to eliminate any perceived challenge to its rule, in this case, ethnic separatism. Over the past few years, the party, under its top leader, Xi Jinping, has moved aggressively to subdue Uyghurs and other Central Asian minorities in Xinjiang, putting hundreds of thousands into internment camps and prisons. Authorities have placed the region under tight surveillance, sent residents to work in factories and placed children in boarding schools.
By targeting Muslim women, the authorities are going even further, attempting to orchestrate a demographic shift that will affect the population for generations. Birthrates in the region have already plunged in recent years, as the use of invasive birth control procedures has risen, findings that were previously documented by a researcher, Adrian Zenz, with The Associated Press.
While authorities have said the procedures are voluntary, interviews with more than a dozen Uyghurs, Kazakhs and other Muslim women and men from Xinjiang, as well as a review of official statistics, government notices and reports in the state-run media, depict a coercive effort by the Chinese Communist Party to control the community’s reproductive rights. Authorities pressured women to use IUDs or get sterilized. As they recuperated at home, government officials were sent to live with them to watch for signs of discontent. One woman described having to endure her minder’s groping.
If they had too many children or refused contraceptive procedures, they faced steep fines or, worse, detention in an internment camp. In the camps, the women were at risk of even more abuse. Some former detainees say they were made to take drugs that stopped their menstrual cycles. One woman said she had been raped in a camp.
To rights advocates and Western officials, the government’s repression in Xinjiang is tantamount to crimes against humanity and genocide, in large part because of the efforts to stem the population growth of Muslim minorities. The Trump administration in January was the first government to declare the crackdown a genocide, with reproductive oppression as a leading reason. The Biden administration affirmed the label in March.
Sedik’s experience, reported in The Guardian and elsewhere, helped form the basis for the decision by the U.S. government. “It was one of the most detailed and compelling first-person accounts we had,” said Kelley E. Currie, a former U.S. ambassador who was involved in the government’s discussions. “It helped to put a face on the horrifying statistics we were seeing.”
Beijing has accused its critics of pushing an anti-China agenda.
The recent declines in the region’s birthrates, the government has said, were the result of authorities’ fully enforcing long-standing birth restrictions. The sterilizations and contraceptive procedures, it said, freed women from backward attitudes about procreation and religion.
“Whether to have birth control or what contraceptive method they choose are completely their own wishes,” Xu Guixiang, a Xinjiang government spokesman, said at a news conference in March. “No one nor any agency shall interfere.”
To women in Xinjiang, the orders from the government were clear: They did not have a choice.
Last year, a community worker in Urumqi, the regional capital, where Sedik had lived, sent messages saying women between 18 and 59 had to submit to pregnancy and birth control inspections.
“If you fight with us at the door and if you refuse to cooperate with us, you will be taken to the police station,” the worker wrote, according to screenshots of the WeChat messages that Sedik shared with The New York Times.
“Do not gamble with your life,” one message read, “don’t even try.”
‘I Lost All Hope in Myself’
All her life, Sedik, an ethnic Uzbek, had thought of herself as a model citizen.
After she graduated from college, she married and threw herself into her work, teaching Chinese to Uyghur elementary school students. Mindful of the rules, Sedik did not get pregnant until she had gotten approval from her employer. She had only one child, a daughter, in 1993.
Sedik could have had two children. The rules at the time allowed ethnic minorities to have slightly bigger families than those of the majority Han Chinese ethnic group, particularly in the countryside. The government even awarded Sedik a certificate of honor for staying within the limits.
Then, in 2017, everything changed.
As the government corralled Uyghurs and Kazakhs into mass internment camps, it moved in tandem to ramp up enforcement of birth controls. Sterilization rates in Xinjiang surged by almost sixfold from 2015 to 2018, to just over 60,000 procedures, even as they plummeted around the country, according to calculations by Zenz.
The campaign in Xinjiang is at odds with a broader push by the government since 2015 to encourage births, including by providing tax subsidies and free IUD removals. But from 2015 to 2018, Xinjiang’s share of the country’s total new IUD insertions increased, even as use of the devices fell nationwide.
The contraception campaign appeared to work.
Birthrates in minority-dominated counties in the region plummeted from 2015 to 2018, based on Zenz’s calculations. Several of these counties have stopped publishing population data, but Zenz calculated that the birthrates in minority areas probably continued to fall in 2019 by just over 50% from 2018, based on figures from other counties.
The sharp drop in birthrates in the region was “shocking” and clearly in part a result of the campaign to tighten enforcement of birth control policies, said Wang Feng, a professor of sociology and an expert in Chinese population policies at the University of California, Irvine. But other factors could include a fall in the number of women of childbearing age, later marriages and postponed births, he said.
As the government pushes back against growing criticism, it has withheld some key statistics, including annually published county-level data on birthrates and birth control use for 2019. Other official data for the region as a whole showed a steep drop in IUD insertions and sterilizations that year, though the number of sterilizations was still mostly higher than before the campaign began.
In Beijing’s depiction, the campaign is a victory for the region's Muslim women.
“In the process of deradicalization, some women’s minds have also been liberated,” a January report by a Xinjiang government research center read. “They have avoided the pain of being trapped by extremism and being turned into reproductive tools.”
Women like Sedik, who had obeyed the rules, were not spared. After the IUD procedure, Sedik suffered from heavy bleeding and headaches. She later had the device secretly removed, then reinserted. In 2019, she decided to be sterilized.
“The government had become so strict, and I could no longer take the IUD,’” said Sedik, who now lives in the Netherlands after fleeing China in 2019. “I lost all hope in myself.”
‘The Women of Xinjiang Are in Danger’
The penalties for not obeying the government were steep. A Han Chinese woman who violated the birth regulations would face a fine, while a Uyghur or Kazakh woman would face possible detention.
When Gulnar Omirzakh had her third child in 2015, officials in her northern village registered the birth. But three years later, they said she had violated birth limits and owed $2,700 in fines.
Officials said they would detain Omirzakh and her two daughters if she did not pay.
She borrowed money from her relatives. Later, she fled to Kazakhstan.
“The women of Xinjiang are in danger,” Omirzakh said in a telephone interview. “The government wants to replace our people.”
The threat of detention was real.
Three women told The Times they had met other detainees in internment camps who had been locked up for violating birth restrictions.
Dina Nurdybay, a Kazakh woman, said she helped one woman write a letter to the authorities in which she blamed herself for being ignorant and having too many children.
Such accounts are corroborated by a 137-page government document leaked last year from Karakax County, in southwestern Xinjiang, which revealed that one of the most common reasons cited for detention was violating birth planning policies.
Those who refused to terminate illegal pregnancies or pay fines would be referred to the internment camps, according to one government notice from a county in Ili, unearthed by Zenz, the researcher.
Once women disappeared into the region’s internment camps — facilities operated under secrecy — many were subjected to interrogations. For some, the ordeal was worse.
Tursunay Ziyawudun was detained in a camp in Ili prefecture for 10 months for traveling to Kazakhstan. She said that on three occasions, she was taken to a dark cell where two to three masked men raped her and used electric batons to forcibly penetrate her.
“You become their toy,” Ziyawudun said in a telephone interview from the United States, where she now lives, as she broke down sobbing. “You just want to die at the time, but unfortunately you don’t.”
Gulbahar Jalilova, the third former detainee, said in an interview that she had been beaten in a camp and that a guard exposed himself during an interrogation and wanted her to perform oral sex.
The three former detainees, along with two others who spoke to The Times, also described being regularly forced to take unidentified pills or receive injections of medication that caused nausea and fatigue. Eventually, a few of them said, they stopped menstruating.
The former detainees’ accounts could not be independently verified because tight restrictions in Xinjiang make unfettered access to the camps impossible. The Chinese government has forcefully denied all allegations of abuse in the facilities.
“The sexual assault and torture cannot exist,” said Xu, the regional spokesman, at a news briefing in February.
Beijing has sought to undermine the credibility of the women who have spoken out, accusing them of lying and of poor morals, all while claiming to be a champion of women’s rights.
‘We Are All Chinese’
Even in their homes, the women did not feel safe. Uninvited Chinese Communist Party cadres would show up and had to be let in.
The party sends out more than a million workers to regularly visit, and sometimes stay in, the homes of Muslims, as part of a campaign called “Pair Up and Become Family.” To many Uyghurs, the cadres were little different from spies.
The cadres were tasked with reporting on whether the families they visited showed signs of “extremist behavior.” For women, this included any resentment they might have felt about state-mandated contraceptive procedures.
When the party cadres came to stay in 2018, Zumret Dawut had just been forcibly sterilized.
Four Han cadres visited her in Urumqi, bringing yogurt and eggs to help with the recovery, she recalled. They were also armed with questions: Did she have any issues with the sterilization operation? Was she dissatisfied with the government’s policy?
“I was so scared that if I said the wrong thing they would send me back to the camps,” said Dawut, a mother of three. “So I just told them, ‘We are all Chinese people and we have to do what the Chinese law says.’”
But the officials’ unwelcome gaze settled also on Dawut’s 11-year-old daughter, she said. One cadre, a 19-year-old man who was assigned to watch the child, would sometimes call Dawut and suggest taking her daughter to his home. She was able to rebuff him with excuses that the child was sick, she said.
Other women reported having to fend off advances even in the company of their husbands.
Sedik, the Uzbek teacher, was still recovering from a sterilization procedure when her “relative” — her husband’s boss — showed up.
She was expected to cook, clean and entertain him even though she was in pain from the operation. Worse, he would ask to hold her hand or to kiss and hug her, she said.
Mostly, Sedik agreed to his requests, terrified that if she refused, he would tell the government that she was an extremist. She rejected him only once: when he asked to sleep with her.
It went on like this every month or so for two years — until she left the country.
“He would say, ‘Don’t you like me? Don’t you love me?’” she recalled. “‘If you refuse me, you are refusing the government.’”
“I felt so humiliated, oppressed and angry,” she said. “But there was nothing I could do.”

 

[beijingwalker]

Former FBI official interview in 2015 on Xinjiang. "we want to turn Xinjiang into another Taiwan"

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

Export-oriented Xinjiang apparel firms eye domestic market amid Western crackdown
Chinese firms need to foster global apparel brands
By Qi Xijia in Shanghai and Chi Jingyi in Beijing
Published: May 10, 2021 09:34 PM

Xinjiang cotton Photo: VCG

Amid a crackdown by the US and other Western countries on Chinese enterprises based in northwestern Xinjiang, some of the firms have noted that their exports have not been affected much, and in some cases their exports have even risen.

And, other companies based there said that they are actively exploring domestic sales channels, as uncertainties such as the Western crackdown and the pandemic make the Chinese market a priority to avert risks.

The fifth China Brand Day kicked off on Monday in Shanghai and online, with enterprises from all over China participating in the event, including companies from Northwest China's Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region.

Liu Haifeng, CEO of China Colored-Cotton Group, told the Global Times on Monday that at present, the company now focuses on selling in the domestic market, as its export volume has been relatively small.

"The influence of the boycotts of Xinjiang cotton by some Western countries is limited, and our foreign trade has not been greatly affected. South Korea and Japan are two of our major export destinations, and they will remain as our priorities.

"Exports to Europe have dropped slightly," said Liu, adding that due to the support of Chinese consumers at home, the number of orders has increased by more than 20 percent compared with last year.

The company said that it has the largest colored-cotton planting base in China. The output of natural-colored cotton in Xinjiang accounts for 95 percent of the production in China, and about 50 percent in the world.

As some export-oriented Xinjiang enterprises get support from home consumers, they have started to engage in the transition from exports to domestic market promotion. Some Xinjiang enterprises told the Global Times, on condition of anonymity, that they are actively seeking domestic sales channels.

"China's steady economic growth has created a stable market and rising demand. On the contrary, repeated virus outbreaks in many foreign countries have increased uncertainties in foreign trade, and the restriction imposed by some Western countries on Xinjiang cotton has brought uncertainties to the sector. Enterprises moved to promote domestic sales in order to avoid risks," an analyst and investor surnamed Cheng told the Global Times on Monday.

An agricultural enterprise said that it is cooperating with Alibaba's Tmall, one of the largest e-commerce platforms in China, to expand domestic market sales.

A manager of public cotton company in Xinjiang that engages in cotton picking, gathering, cleaning, processing, embossing and packaging, told the Global Times on Monday that the "Xinjiang cotton" issue did not have much negative impact on the company's stock prices, but it did force it to give priority to independent research and development on new products and to seek domestic procurement.

"Our company has brought to the exhibition one of most high-end cotton pickers in the world. It is 30-40 percent more efficient than ordinary machines, and costs less than two-thirds of the price of its American counterparts, while the performance is almost the same.

"Now we have mastered more than 90 percent of the key technologies. We will continue to expand the proportion of home-made components and to develop new technologies," said the manager.

He added that domestic orders are on the rise, as buyers realize that uncertainties abroad can affect the supply of cotton-processing equipment and related services. Enterprises in Xinjiang cannot go back to the era when cotton was picked by hand.

The machine-picking rate has exceeded 90 percent in northern Xinjiang, according to data released by the Department of Agriculture and Rural Affairs of Xinjiang. The rate is expected to reach 88 percent in whole Xinjiang this year, said the agriculture ministry.

"The battle over cotton is essentially a battle of economic interests. China is the world's largest consumer and second-largest producer of cotton. By impairing exports of Xinjiang cotton, cotton produced in the US, Australia and other Western countries will have an expanded market," said Wang Chikun, an independent economist.

According to statistics, China produced 5.91 million tons of cotton in 2020, of which Xinjiang produced 5.16 million tons, accounting for 87 percent. China's demand for cotton reached about 8 million tons last year, per statistics from China Cotton Industry Association sent to the Global Times, which means nearly 2 million tons of cotton relied on imports.

"In essence, Western countries' boycott of Xinjiang cotton is the struggle for interests. We must have a clear understanding of this. There is still a big gap between domestic and foreign clothing retail brands.

"Only when our brands are strong in the world, can we have control over the supply chain and not be controlled by others," Wang noted

 

[Globenim]

Oh look its the same 4 year old or was it already 5 year old fake story recyled by the same Muslim butchering U.S.A. regime propaganda mouthpieces and disseminated by paid U.S.A. shills and racist trolls who hate Muslims just as much as they hate Chinese all over again for the 5th time this month.

 

[Chacha_Facebooka]

Ummah will start with the west.

 

[Suriya]

 

[UKBengali]

Ok, so if this is all fake then let China allow unfettered access to Muslim countries to verify the truth.

China is for sure committing grave human rights abuses in Xinjiang and just because the Jews are doing the same to Palestinians and Indians to Kashmiris does not excuse their behviour.

 

[Feng Leng]

The days of ethnic minorities being exempted from family planning policies are over. One law fits all.