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[beijingwalker]

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[scherz]

Regardless of whether Uyghur or Han, these shows are surreal. Ruinating thousands of childhoods. Very disgusting in my opinion.

 

[beijingwalker]

Regardless of whether Uyghur or Han, these shows are surreal. Ruinating thousands of childhoods. Very disgusting in my opinion.

I agree, but kids are kids, maybe they like it.

Uighur kids love this kind of dance, they won the title of national contest for this.

 

[055_destroyer]

US supporter will scream this is propaganda. 10 million Uighur is in concentration camp.
Uighur shall be all illiterate , study Islamic school and continued live nomadic life.
Upgrading their standard of living is evil.

 

[fisher1]

I would appreciate if you don't use the word Jihadist as it is mocking Islamic beautiful concept of Jihad. Use the word terrorist, extremist, whatever you like.

Jihad is a Muslim war fought in defence or against oppression and there are specific rules followed the least of which is not even trees should be hurt in a war and people who don't want to fight should be protected even in war. Jihad is a struggle against nafs (evil desires of humans) , jihad is raising your voice against oppression.

I am a Jihadist. I am doing Jihad right this moment by correcting you over your improper usage of the word. I did Jihad earlier by helping some poor person financially. Do you get it? Jihad means struggle. You could've never been close to a war and still done Jihad. Jihad is serving and pleasing your parents and i do a lot of that MashaAllah.

ISIS and terrorists aren't Jihadists, they're blowing up people who don't want to fight them and that makes it oppression. They're damaging property. If you aren't allowed to damage trees, how does blowing up innocents is allowed. One of the Western propaganda is distorting the word Jihad and inventing a new word Jihadists. You're following Western propaganda but admonishing us not to do that? Lol

As for Western propaganda, please explain this.

 

[055_destroyer]

As for Western propaganda, please explain this.

Hi

From this video, I can see a lot of misinformation and bias from this blogger. First of all, east Turkestan is a very short lived period when Qing dynasty collapsed and China become disunify. Even the very first mention of existent of Kashgar and Xinjiang. It is Chinese Han who first recorded the history of these places and administrate these area.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashgar

The earliest mention of Kashgar occurs when a Chinese Han dynasty envoy traveled the Northern Silk Road to explore lands to the west

It is part of China territories as early as 125 BC. While this blogger try to claim China only conquer this area as early as 1950 only..
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Also from this presentation, don't you find it fishy? Non of what he present of his visit to Xinjiang achieved nothing positive. From his claim of high surveillance, to mention not a single local smiling, all look in fear and forced. And even his report of Ramandan, he concluded no muslim fast just by a single Uighur who don't do so.
The only positive he can provide from this video is the dinner kebab which he claim is delicious. Is that really the xinjiang we know? Or has this video only try to let us look at what they want us to interpret by purposely omit things they don't want us to know. If so called unbias documentary only present everything negative from their finding. Can it be a real relevant finding or just the so called finding which they want us to interpret in the way they want?

 

[beijingwalker]

As for Western propaganda, please explain this.

I posted over 100 videos about Xinjiang covering all walks of life, can you explain them one by one?

 

[scherz]

I agree, but kids are kids, maybe they like it.

Uighur kids love this kind of dance, they won the title of national contest for this.

C'mon, just because of one video, this is not going to prove that Uighur kids "love this kind of dance". I suspect that it's staged from the party to create awareness of Uighurs to Han Chinese.
I am not attacking the party, what I mean is, that this is kind of common influence for the easy people. Also daily practice here in the West.
Very suspicious.

 

[vi-va]

There is two Indonesian orgs out there one has competing narrative one says rights are being violated other says no in fact the Malaysian Interior Minister was in the PRC and some other group saw no issues in the Xinjiang region but Some Malaysian politicians were critical of reports you see the problem is the two competing narratives obviously rival powers and their drums of media influence will try to inflame or break relations I think Muslims should be careful we saw the same thing with Yugoslavia in the 90s,Iraq in 03,Syria on 2011 too many examples of competing narratives worst part instead of helping this causes further instabilty and more harm



There was an SCMP article a week back about two Indonesian groups competing for legitimacy again not taking sides here the domestic politics in Indonesia is kinda tight rope their President Jokowi had go through a nasty campaign with rivals slinging him as a non Muslim or of Chinese origin remember back in 1998 there was mass ethnic riots between the Indonesians and Ethnic Chinese during the downfall of The Suharto Govt and post 97 economic crisis Indonesia still going through issues tho I hope tensions will cool down

Insightful comments. You take Muslim countries domestic politic factors into account.

Considering how nasty political campaign could be, how strong the political motivation is, I am not surprised the opposition will Xinjiang to attack the ruling party.

China has seen those campaign too much, the opposition party will come and repair relationship as soon as they get elected.

Kashgar old town

Bro, I am booking ticket to Kashgar, now.

 

[CIA Mole]

You gotta ask, are these camps even effective? You can never change a persons skin color or facial features which is where the real division is.

 

[Itachi]

irst you claimed that Uighur graves are not Muslim graves and I showed your pictures of traditionla Uighur graves, and then you claim Uighur girls are not Muslim girls and I showed your many Uighur girls Tik Tok videoi, but you are just in denail mode even deep inside you know they are Uighur girls. It seems that all Muslims should follow your standard of Islam otherwise they are not Muslims, what a man..

lol wut??

I never said any of that except for the part that most of your videos here are either fake or choreographed. If not both.

You're making a lot of assumptions here just by the way I react and respond.

 

[JSCh]

Volunteers lend a helping hand to Xinjiang patients
By CHAI HUA | China Daily | Updated: 2019-07-08 09:13

Volunteer doctors give free consultations and examinations to members of the Tajik ethnic group in Kashgar, Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, last month. Provided to China Daily

Experts from first-tier cities are helping to improve medical services in the Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region by giving free treatment, training and grassroots education.

Some come from Shanghai, where a project dubbed "silver age action" was launched by the municipal government in 2003 to encourage elderly experts to provide free medical services in Xinjiang for about two months every year. In the 16 years since it was launched, 382 elderly experts have taken part, benefiting more than a million people.

While medical treatment is the main focus, the project also covers nine other areas, including education, culture and psychological counseling.

Liu Hongdi, 69, used to be chief ophthalmologist at the Shanghai Eye Disease Prevention and Control Center. Now retired, she began working as a volunteer in Xinjiang for the eighth time last month as part of a team that includes 20 other elderly experts.

The average age of the volunteers is 64, and they are assigned to different counties in Kashgar and Karamay. In Karamay last year, four experts treated 1,925 patients and trained 370 local staff.

Liu said that every time she visits Xinjiang, it feels like home, and she has made many friends among local doctors and patients. This time she is working in Zepu county, Kashgar, treating complicated diseases, passing on her experience and knowledge and giving lectures to local doctors in major hospitals, villages and nursing homes.

In addition to the retired experts from Shanghai, many doctors who are still working are also lending a helping hand in Xinjiang.

Wu Rui, a doctor at the Third Hospital of Peking University in Beijing, has twice volunteered to provide free medical services in Xinjiang as part of a team organized by an All-China Federation of Trade Unions.

The federation arranged for a team of 13 volunteer medical experts to offer services in Xinjiang in June, providing free treatment for more than 1,000 people in local hospitals and nomadic settlements and giving lectures to about 18,000 medical workers in villages.

Wu said their volunteer work is down-to-earth and highly efficient.

"Once, in just two days, our team of four doctors made diagnoses and gave treatments to more than 100 patients, and also gave four lectures and performed two surgeries," she said.

Wu said that when she was treating members of the Kazak ethnic group in a village last year, she found many of them were anemic because their nomadic lifestyle made them susceptible to intestinal worms, which affected their ability to absorb nutrients. The team then decided to send anthelmintic medicine to village children every year.

While treating patients in Xinjiang, Wu has also discovered many problems are caused by a lack of knowledge about healthcare. For instance, some residents feed naan, a flat-bread that is a staple food in Xinjiang, to newborns, though doing so can cause suffocation. She wrote several articles to spread knowledge about such risks.

The doctors' work has been well-received by residents, with many saying they are grateful to have famous doctors from first-tier cities treating them and saving them time and money. Once the doctors have left Xinjiang, they can continue to prescribe medicine for patients with chronic diseases.

Local hospitals are trying to set up long-term, cooperative relationships with the expert doctors' hospitals to provide services such as training programs and long-distance joint diagnoses.

 

[JSCh]

Tianjin helping Xinjiang's football development in China
Source: Xinhua| 2019-07-08 15:11:41|Editor: Shi Yinglun

TIANJIN, July 8 (Xinhua) -- The increase in football development in northwest China's Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region is a result of "pairing-up support for Xinjiang" from provincial-level regions.

In March 2010, China unveiled a new action plan calling for other regions to streamline and enhance aid delivery for Xinjiang. A total of 19 provinces and municipalities were paired with different cities and regions of Xinjiang.

Tianjin, paired with Hetian city, provided football equipment and training materials with pictures and videos to local youth players and football coaches this month.

Two professional football coaches from Tianjin also guided students' training sessions.

Lgamberdi, a football coach in a primary school of Luopu County, said though the equipment and coaches were limited, students still showed great enthusiasm in playing football.

"With this new equipment, we will strive to perform better in competitions and cultivate more footballing talents," Lgamberdi said.

Memet Azizi, director of Cele County's bureau of education, said that Tianjin's help had brought them hope for the future.

With support from Tianjin, a standard football field and training center was constructed at Cele County's No. 1 Primary School.

Muratjan Muhtar, captain of the school's football team, met his idol Mirahmetjan Muzepper in Tianjin a month ago. The captain of Chinese Super League side Tianjin Teda is also a Xinjiang native, and encouraged Muhtar to stick to his dream.

"I want to be like him, and I will insist on training hard to win glory for China in the future," Muhtar said.

Anzarjan, another primary student from Yutian County, said he hoped to play football in Tianjin when he grows up.

"I saw the desire and passion to play football from these children. It's our responsibility to make their dream come true," said Zhang Xin, deputy director of the Tianjin sports bureau, and head of the Tianjin Football Association.

According to Zhang, Tianjin will continue to provide Xinjiang with coaches, equipment, and advanced training methods, and help the region cultivate excellent football players.

A total of 12 football-focused schools were established in Xinjiang's Hetian City, which now contains over 500 football fields.

"More and more children are fond of playing football, and even more girls have joined training sessions," said Yang Ying, from Hetian's local authority.

Xu Ming, head of the Xinjiang Football Association, said the organization would look to promote the development of football in Hetian by cooperating further with Tianjin, in order to further contribute to the reform and development of Chinese football as a whole.

 

[fisher1]

Hi

From this video, I can see a lot of misinformation and bias from this blogger. First of all, east Turkestan is a very short lived period when Qing dynasty collapsed and China become disunify. Even the very first mention of existent of Kashgar and Xinjiang. It is Chinese Han who first recorded the history of these places and administrate these area.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashgar

The earliest mention of Kashgar occurs when a Chinese Han dynasty envoy traveled the Northern Silk Road to explore lands to the west

It is part of China territories as early as 125 BC. While this blogger try to claim China only conquer this area as early as 1950 only..
b
Also from this presentation, don't you find it fishy? Non of what he present of his visit to Xinjiang achieved nothing positive. From his claim of high surveillance, to mention not a single local smiling, all look in fear and forced. And even his report of Ramandan, he concluded no muslim fast just by a single Uighur who don't do so.
The only positive he can provide from this video is the dinner kebab which he claim is delicious. Is that really the xinjiang we know? Or has this video only try to let us look at what they want us to interpret by purposely omit things they don't want us to know. If so called unbias documentary only present everything negative from their finding. Can it be a real relevant finding or just the so called finding which they want us to interpret in the way they want?

He has other videos where he portrays China in a beautiful light. He also has no interest in Uighurs, he's just a random travel vlogger. So if he's showing that then there must be truth to it. The guy hasn't made another video about Uighurs.

Why do you have to pay to visit Mosques? Nobody praying in the biggest mosque. People actually visiting mosques as tourist spots rather than for praying.

I posted over 100 videos about Xinjiang covering all walks of life, can you explain them one by one?

From what i understand, you're either in some position in China or just live there. You really aren't the most trustworthy source to expose anything wrong going on there.

Communists are also known for their propaganda btw
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_propaganda

It is also easy for you to just show what you want to show. The Uighurs are a minority, this crackdown has strengthened recently and China is gigantic. Not really hard to manipulate things and show the positive.

I could've shown you the positives in Waziristan even when military was doing operations and drones were bombing the crap out of people in KPK in Pakistan.

I think if you were to vlog especially the mosques and the areas that vlogger did, it would be way more believable. But i don't really expect you to.

 

[Itachi]

The propaganda is strong in this thread.


Look at all these Chinese posters posting different aspect of Uyghur life, whether fake or not, that can be argued too.

But you have to say, if the camps/detention centers don't exist then why are they in such a fire to make hundreds of threads and posts on PDF regarding Uyghurs??

Simply said, if there's no camps, no one would bother to say otherwise. If they do exist, then normally, you'll see propagandists here on PDF making multiple threads and posts to show Uyghurs doing good and China in the limelight.