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All Pakistani F-16s are accounted for: US Govt buries Indian propaganda.

Has India made public their Radar Data!!!
Once it is available, we will discuss it.
If you see the video (below) of NDTV at time code 12:07, Vishnu Som clearly states that they were NOT shown & he quoted the IAF saying, "No, why should we share it? What Business or Requirement is there to share it?" . The 2nd guest, Ajay Shukla (Defense Expert) was with Vishnu Som at this event held for the media earlier.

Wanted to bring it to your attention, as you questioned Tweet...
@member.exe @balixd @CrazyZ @Khanivore @TsAr @SABRE
 
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Oye yeh budhha quotation main alfaz change karta hai...
Hi, Iss buddhay ko maen kutch arsa pehlay completely humiliate kar chuka hon after which he ran away as usual. His title should be PPL Pompous Professional Liar.
 
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According to fleet data from @AviationWeek, out of Pakistan's total 76 F-16s, 13 are from Jordan. The breakdown (H/t @TheDEWLine):
F-16A Block 1-15 MLU: 24
F-16B Block 1-15 MLU: 21
F-16A Block 1-15: 9 (Jordan)
F-16B Block 1-15: 4 (Jordan)
F-16C Block 52: 12
F-16D Block 52: 6

Getting a lot of qs on whether the US included the F-16s Pakistan bought from Jordan in its count. The answer is YES: even third-party transfers of US equipment must go through the US government.


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If you see the video (below) of NDTV at time code 12:07, Vishnu Som clearly states that they were NOT shown & he quoted the IAF saying, "No, why should we share it? What Business or Requirement is there to share it?" . The 2nd guest, Ajay Shukla (Defense Expert) was with Vishnu Som at this event held for the media earlier.


Wanted to bring it to your attention, as you questioned Tweet...
@member.exe @balixd @CrazyZ @Khanivore @TsAr @SABRE
So just to sum up.
Indians are claiming that Abhinandan shot down F-16 because one of Pakistani F-16 pilot stopped talking on radio and Abhinandan Mig-21 radar signature was seen in the same area as F-16 ????
Rubbish :lol:
 
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No such thing as secure encryption when it comes to Israeli monitoring equipment.;)
Yeah, yeah. The same supadupa, powaful, ADVANCED, state-of-the-art, Israeli system that guided IAF into a skirmish with PAF and took it in the nutsack with 2 IAF jets down, Abhinandan enjoying a good cuppa chai and a mysterious downing of an Mi-17 killing all onboard. Also the Spice-2000 bombs hitting a few trees and killing 1 crow. Awesome Israeli equipment. :p: I'm sure the shopping list will be long this year for India. Israel has a good customer. :partay:
 
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I agree with you 99.9944%. Only one word out of your 180 needed change.
Interesting But any idea that this is an Indian victory is ludicrous. First the claims of another "Surgical strike" were generally not taken seriously by most people who did not have an axe to grind.
Then the whole business with planes being shot down and claims of F16's being shot down without any real evidence has hardly painted a flattering picture of Indian armed forces.

I suspect the idea was to be like Israel and to drop bombs when you wanted to help win elections, however it has backfired quite badly.
 
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I think the point that was made was that the strike done on india no F16s were used. I am pretty sure all of us agree that we had f16 up for defense in the air along with other jets.

I am pretty sure that our collective opinion, important though it is, does not matter. It merely inflates the post count on PDF.
 
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The fired AIM120s were proof that the PAF had used F16s in combat, something vehemently denied at first, that is slowly creeping into the narrative as the days pass....


F16 weren’t used for striking India.

But they were to defend Pakistan airspace.

ISPR was talking about the strike in India.

If indians are mixing both points, then nobody can help.
 
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Interesting But any idea that this is an Indian victory is ludicrous.

I agree. Very many Indians agree. In fact, many retired senior officers of the Indian armed forces have also broken their silence and asked that these events should not be projected falsely for political advantage.

The idea of a victory in the matter of two sets of planes raiding each other's territory is indeed ludicrous. It can occur only to those minds starved of recognition in other respects.

First the claims of another "Surgical strike" were generally not taken seriously by most people who did not have an axe to grind.

Presumably a polite way of stating that Pakistan does not accept that surgical strikes are surgical strikes until and unless so certified by ISPR. That is natural and understandable.

The use of the term, in this instance, is another example of self-serving political spin. However, such occurrences, cross-border raids, are nothing new. On either side.

Taking these raids seriously or not seriously is perhaps more appropriately left to commanders on the ground.

Then the whole business with planes being shot down and claims of F16's being shot down without any real evidence has hardly painted a flattering picture of Indian armed forces.

True.

I suspect the idea was to be like Israel and to drop bombs when you wanted to help win elections, however it has backfired quite badly.

What has emerged clearly is that Pakistan may have done better or worse in the exchanges in the air; that is a moot point. Pakistan has certainly won a great victory in the war of perception, in the information war. That should be a matter of chagrin for the vaunted BJP information war apparatus.

It is not without significance that the Pakistani commander of the information war was first to get his just deserts in terms of military recognition of his worth.

F16 weren’t used for striking India.

But they were to defend Pakistan airspace.

ISPR was talking about the strike in India.

If indians are mixing both points, then nobody can help.

ISPR is naturally careful to say what is needed to be said in appropriate measure and at appropriate intervals. Quite understandable. And something that can be helped, of course.
 
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ISPR is naturally careful to say what is needed to be said in appropriate measure and at appropriate intervals. Quite understandable. And something that can be helped, of course.


Not like indians who said F16 shot down by Mig iKiss

Sure!
 
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Presumably a polite way of stating that Pakistan does not accept that surgical strikes are surgical strikes until and unless so certified by ISPR. That is natural and understandable.
No It's more of statement that "Surgical strikes" are a way of claiming a victory without actually showing any result. It's a easy votes grabber to claim such things. And when the other side denies anything having happened you shout "Cover up by the other side!" Unfortunately in this case they pushed it too far and the results are still being argued on this forum.
 
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F16 weren’t used for striking India.

But they were to defend Pakistan airspace.

ISPR was talking about the strike in India.

If indians are mixing both points, then nobody can help.
funny thing that indian themselves are saying that mirages used h4/h2 and than go back and stating f16 did the strike..utterly confused peoples
 
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