All options on the table, if Kabul doesn’t act, says officials

[IceCold]

When did India tried to attack Afghanistan?
Secondly its not about pathetic leadership, its about pathetic state of armed forces supplies, they cannot sustain long war, neither financially nor at resource replacement level.

Not to say the farted out internal security will have all its gut open when gorilla warfare would start inside country.

I never said India attacked Afghanistan, but i was pointing out towards the hot air that was blown towards Pakistan when Mumbai happened.

I think you have been watching too many war movies. Real life is somewhat different.

Not really. Never been much of a fan.

 

[noksss]

Pakistan has already shown the cross border raid capabilities in LOC with india . You guys have to replicate the same with Afghanistan using SSG would be a better option

 

[Viny]

Are you kidding me dude, you have literally no idea about the situation in ground there, It seems that you're thinking that Pakistan would forcibly enter Afghanistan..and engage with everyone..are you serious !!!
All we need to do is targetted airstrikes on TTP hideouts in Nuristan and Kunar provinces close to the border carried out by PAF similar to the ones being carried in North Waziristan right now....Pakistan absolutely has the capability and the financial resources to do this, as we are already doing these kind of operations since the last decade...Probably a baffoon would believe that world's fifth largest military with nuclear power and $7-8 billion dollar annual budget lacks the finances to carry out precision airstrikes across the border in Afghanistan....better learn the facts before commenting !!!

Firstly Pakistan is not US that it can handle selective engagements, any engagements might give them a selective win but no long term solution, it will spread again, thats what Afghanistan is. More over there is big chances that it would scale into full scale war. Enemies of Pakistan will be more than happy in keeping Pakistan engaged on that front for long term.

Pakistan doesnt have capabilities, its unable to do basic operations nor it would be ever able to complete it.
Probably baffoons knows that a nuclear power with trillions of dollar to throw off could not get it over. And that country doesnt have terrorism or active war at neighborhood.

Current Pakistan Armed Services is more like empty barrels they look big but dont have much substance inside. In last 10- 15 years terrorism has acted as termite and has eaten away major resources as well as lack of modernization has made it much difficult for Armed Forces to keep up with required fire power as per current era.

No matter what is the state of Armed Forces, every country will provide an image of worlds strongest to make its people believe in sovereignty and its capability to safe guard its citizens.

 

[historysheeter]

Our troops may troll them at the streets of Kabul if yara Pakistan wants

NATO troops (of which Turkey is a part) have been trolling Afghanistan since over a decade plus drone bombing Pakistan. What different will you do or can do for yara pak??? How will NATO react if Pak army enters Afghanistan or PAF bombs Afghan???

we already have been attacking hostile targets across the Durand Line

yes but through non state actors.

Give it a rest. The same old rhetoric is getting boring now.

Its boring but UN declared terrorists still roam free in Pakistan. Haiz Saeed with a reward of US$ 10 million on his head appears on Pk TV channels and attends govt. functions.

 

[Neptune]

NATO troops (of which Turkey is a part) have been trolling Afghanistan since over a decade plus drone bombing Pakistan. What different will you do or can do for yara pak??? How will NATO react if Pak army enters Afghanistan or PAF bombs Afghan???


yes but through non state actors.

You have no ideas just like many others here whining about this where you dont show a single respect to our fallen in Afghanistan..Be it us or any other soldier of the 28 countries. I stopped replying to such posts when I saw that your behaviors are irrecoverable. All I can say is yes we will keep "trolling.

 

[historysheeter]

You have no ideas just like many others here whining about this where you dont show a single respect to our fallen in Afghanistan..Be it us or any other soldier of the 28 countries. I stopped replying to such posts when I saw that your behaviors are irrecoverable. All I can say is yes we will keep "trolling.

I assume you are refering to NATO soldiers. We definitely dont rejoice the killing of NATO soldiers like Taliban supporters do, rather we welcome their presence in Afghanistan coz the people of afghan desire so. But tell me did you not insult those fallen soldiers by commenting that Turkish troops may troll on Kabul streets if your yara Pak desires?

 

[Neptune]

I assume you are refering to NATO soldiers. We definitely dont rejoice the killing of NATO soldiers like Taliban supporters do, rather we welcome their presence in Afghanistan coz the people of afghan desire so. But tell me did you not insult those fallen soldiers by commenting that Turkish troops may troll on Kabul streets if your yara Pak desires?

It'd be an insult if taliban is a soldier in your agenda.

 

[IceCold]

Its boring but UN declared terrorists still roam free in Pakistan. Haiz Saeed with a reward of US$ 10 million on his head appears on Pk TV channels and attends govt. functions.

And there is nothing you can do about it or the US or UN. So give it a rest.

 

[historysheeter]

It'd be an insult if taliban is a soldier in your agenda.

Talibans are terrorists and barbarians in my opinion. If you have no answer for my comments then i will appreciate if you please keep quiet instead of talking irrelvant and incoherent.

 

[historysheeter]

And there is nothing you can do about it or the US or UN. So give it a rest.

In 1979 World cup Clive Lloyd dropped an easy catch of slow scoring Geof Boycott........... in order to win the match.

 

[Neptune]

Talibans are terrorists and barbarians in my opinion. If you have no answer for my comments then i will appreciate if you please keep quiet instead of talking irrelvant and incoherent.

hooyaaaa

 

[MadDog]

Firstly Pakistan is not US that it can handle selective engagements, any engagements might give them a selective win but no long term solution, it will spread again, thats what Afghanistan is. More over there is big chances that it would scale into full scale war. Enemies of Pakistan will be more than happy in keeping Pakistan engaged on that front for long term.

Pakistan doesnt have capabilities, its unable to do basic operations nor it would be ever able to complete it.
Probably baffoons knows that a nuclear power with trillions of dollar to throw off could not get it over. And that country doesnt have terrorism or active war at neighborhood.

Current Pakistan Armed Services is more like empty barrels they look big but dont have much substance inside. In last 10- 15 years terrorism has acted as termite and has eaten away major resources as well as lack of modernization has made it much difficult for Armed Forces to keep up with required fire power as per current era.

No matter what is the state of Armed Forces, every country will provide an image of worlds strongest to make its people believe in sovereignty and its capability to safe guard its citizens.

My friend, this can be your personal opinion, the gulf countries aren't stupid that they get their forces trained by Pak Army, As far as operations are concerned, all have been a success, especially the swat operation model was being considered a role model operation even by the US forces..same goes for all the tribal agencies, only one was delebrately left out ...which is being cleared now, cuz there was presence of Afghan taliban there, If the army would have been empty barrels situation would have been like Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan where large areas of the country are in the hands of militants...that is not the case in Pakistan..you might want to believe otherwise..just for your own satisfaction but the world sees it differently and knows about the professionalism of Pakistan Army !!!
If someone believes that world's 7th largest airforce( which includes 80 F-16's which also have sniper pods for targetted strikes)... is unable to take out Mullah Fazlullah ...or if world's 5th largest army with a considerable military budget of around $ 8 billion is more like empty barrels..then I can only pray for his guidance...All I can do is to salute your impressive knowledge !!!

 

[Viny]

My friend, this can be your personal opinion, the gulf countries aren't stupid that they get their forces trained by Pak Army, As far as operations are concerned, all have been a success, especially the swat operation model was being considered a role model operation even by the US forces..same goes for all the tribal agencies, only one was delebrately left out ...which is being cleared now, cuz there was presence of Afghan taliban there, If the army would have been empty barrels situation would have been like Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan where large areas of the country are in the hands of militants...that is not the case in Pakistan..you might want to believe otherwise..just for your own satisfaction but the world sees it differently and knows about the professionalism of Pakistan Army !!!
If someone believes that world's 7th largest airforce( which includes 80 F-16's which also have sniper pods for targetted strikes)... is unable to take out Mullah Fazlullah ...or if world's 5th largest army with a considerable military budget of around $ 8 billion is more like empty barrels..then I can only pray for his guidance...All I can do is to salute your impressive knowledge !!!

Dear Friend, there is no denial about professionalism or patriotism, thats what differs between a sovereign armed force and terrorist. Pakistan is no match against technology and firepower of US and Russia, yet we can easily see both the countries could not achieve much as far as long term goal is concern. The size of arm force, budget and techonology can at best help in avoiding any excursions by opponents and making them check and limit there Voyeurism and military expeditions.

But its a totally different ball game to make a controlled limited war which could go for ages. And for that neither Pakistan not India has the required might. Minor operations and guarding of borders with skirmish can be managed but not the kind of warfare we are discussing.

Thanks for salute, Jai Hind

Note: An eretailer Flipkart is worth more than 8 billion USD, so its not that big amount or say somewhere close to TCS annual profit

 

[MadDog]

Dear Friend, there is no denial about professionalism or patriotism, thats what differs between a sovereign armed force and terrorist. Pakistan is no match against technology and firepower of US and Russia, yet we can easily see both the countries could not achieve much as far as long term goal is concern. The size of arm force, budget and techonology can at best help in avoiding any excursions by opponents and making them check and limit there Voyeurism and military expeditions.

But its a totally different ball game to make a controlled limited war which could go for ages. And for that neither Pakistan not India has the required might. Minor operations and guarding of borders with skirmish can be managed but not the kind of warfare we are discussing.

Thanks for salute, Jai Hind

Note: An eretailer Flipkart is worth more than 8 billion USD, so its not that big amount or say somewhere close to TCS annual net profit

United States and Russia had whole of Afghanistan to deal with and they faced Afghan Taliban and allied groups which literally were the govt of Afghanistan from 1996-2001, they are much more organized, much more in numbers and stronger in every sense of the word when compared with the strength TTP which is based in 2 provinces of Afghanistan..and has lost its home base in NWA...taking out a handful of their leaders from air shouldn't be an issue !!!

 

[Viny]

Bigger questions is how would you keep it limited, when you go into Afgan borders.
People unite more aggressively when an external aggression is meet with, which will eventually mean a long term engagement and multi dimensional engagement which has high probability of getting out of hand into full fledged war. Pakistan's support to USA in war of terrorism is already an eye sore for many in the region and the direct action will only mean more unrest in pakistan's internal security.

Afganishtan is no pakisthan and pakistan is no USA. So the kind of air strikes USA does in pakistan without having any reaction from Pakistan is not what to expect when pakistan tries to adventure in Afghanistan.

Moreover it will be hard for pakistan too win international support for its aggression. Given that India will use all its connection to corner pakisthan.