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All options on the table, if Kabul doesn’t act, says officials

Are you suggesting that Pakistan does not have the capability to tackle a country like Afghanistan? I specifically quoted two examples to show that the capability does exist, it is the political leadership which lacks the will to do so.

We are specifically talking about a covert tactical deep strike capability, not tackling the Afghanistan situation as a whole. The lack of a political leadership is only one more deficiency on top of several more that makes such a strike unlikely.
 
Disagree. Afghanistan has long hosted anti-Pakistan elements as a matter of policy - from Pakhtoonistan to Baluch malcontents.

We must find Mulla Fazlullah and his accomplices and neutralize them. Precedents exist and we should have no qualms in doing so.

All we should do is to ensure no Afghans are killed.
Your opinion on India doing the same, what you advocate for Afghanistan?

Pakistan has long hosted anti-India elements as a matter of policy.
 
Your opinion on India doing the same, what you advocate for Afghanistan?

Pakistan has long hosted anti-India elements as a matter of policy.

Or Pakistan doing the same, only eastwards instead of westwards? Tis a slippery slope once we are on it.
 
Your opinion on India doing the same, what you advocate for Afghanistan?

Pakistan has long hosted anti-India elements as a matter of policy.
Well, actions speak louder than words, terminologies as surgical strikes, cross border raids and hot pursuits are ideal for home consumptions but not practical.
@ topic, Pakistan has carried out strikes in the past and if need be will not hesitate to hit them again.

PressTV - Pakistan airstrike kills five Afghan civilians: Officials
 
Your opinion on India doing the same, what you advocate for Afghanistan?

Pakistan has long hosted anti-India elements as a matter of policy.

And India has done the same. It's nothing personal, it's just business.
 
Pressure tactics.Sometimes you have to use those. Specially in case of a war stricken country, which can understand the things in just one language.Where attitudes and behaviors have been molded to support aggression and accept it as the only solution.

But one can see that in the long run, we can't achieve much good out of a targeted military strike there.They have much less to offer us as target practice may be a couple of hundred criminals. Can those hot pursuits become a permanent solution?
Why start another game for the criminals that are always very much thirsty for a conflict/war?

One can give time to the upcoming regime to settle down a bit and then gauge their attitude towards this phenomenon of continuously supporting TTP for her cross border terrorist activities.May be there is a shift of policy and we can agree upon an engagement technique which is secure and satisfactory for them as well.It'll be win-win in such a case.On the other hand harden our defenses against any of the expected attacks on our border posts and use our anger there to take swift action against them , there and then.It will be way better to invest our time and energies there.Meanwhile push the afghans to do things,that we want them to do.


Too sad to see the NATO forces moving out, when it was our turn to say, "Do more!"
 
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Your opinion on India doing the same, what you advocate for Afghanistan?

Pakistan has long hosted anti-India elements as a matter of policy.

Well, first the persons to be targeted are Pakistani nationals who commit terrorism inside Pakistan on an on-going basis. We in Pakistan host no one like that as far as India is concerned.

Second, it is a matter of having the ability to deal with fall-out. With Afghanistan of today, we can deal with fall-out of any such raid. India, on the other hand may not.

Third, while Afghanistan does not yet control all its regions or is not willing to take any action, something has to be done to stop terrorist attacks.
 
Third, while Afghanistan does not yet control all its regions or is not willing to take any action, something has to be done to stop terrorist attacks.

Does Pakistan control all of FATA? Anyone else a parallel here with this particular argument?
 
We are specifically talking about a covert tactical deep strike capability, not tackling the Afghanistan situation as a whole. The lack of a political leadership is only one more deficiency on top of several more that makes such a strike unlikely.

Like i said please enlighten us all the keyboard warriors those several deficiencies that makes a nuclear power with one of the best special ops incapable of targeting elements that are a constant threat to our national security?

The lack of political leadership is the only deficiency. As much as you like to downplay the capabilities of Pakistan armed forces, fact is it is only the incompetence of Nawaz and before him Zardari that a country like Afghanistan regularly accuses us of terrorism while hiding our most wanted terrorists and daring to try to capture them.
 
Like i said please enlighten us all the keyboard warriors those several deficiencies that makes a nuclear power with one of the best special ops incapable of targeting elements that are a constant threat to our national security?

The lack of political leadership is the only deficiency. As much as you like to downplay the capabilities of Pakistan armed forces, fact is it is only the incompetence of Nawaz and before him Zardari that a country like Afghanistan regularly accuses us of terrorism while hiding our most wanted terrorists and daring to try to capture them.

Shall we start with the proper helicopters or secure commlinks? Or something else?
 
ISLAMABAD:
Pakistan has conveyed to Afghanistan that it may explore other options including the use of force to stop cross-border attacks if Kabul does not take immediate steps against terrorists.


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So my dear friends
How does it feel now when you face cross border terrorism ??
Karma does exist :bounce:
 
Does Pakistan control all of FATA? Anyone else a parallel here with this particular argument?

We are actually doing something there unlike Afghanistan which has done nothing to stop cross-border raids by our nationals from sanctuaries in Afghanistan. Plus drone attacks that take place are already a precedent in case you've noticed.

It all actually boils down to the ability to handle reaction. In other words, its about what we can get away with at this point in time. The principles and parallels and precedents and other such niceties are but fig leaves actually.

If India could have attacked during Khalistan movement of '80s, they would have.
If USSR / Afghanistan could have attacked during '80s, they would have.

So my dear friends
How does it feel now when you face cross border terrorism ??
Karma does exist :bounce:

Cross-border issues and Karma have both existed for most of the people, most of the time. What is your point?
 
We are actually doing something there unlike Afghanistan which has done nothing to stop cross-border raids by our nationals from sanctuaries in Afghanistan. Plus drone attacks that take place are already a precedent in case you've noticed.
It all actually boils down to the ability to handle reaction. In other words, its about what we can get away with at this point in time. The principles and parallels and precedents and other such niceties are but fig leaves actually.
If India could have attacked during Khalistan movement of '80s, they would have.
If USSR / Afghanistan could have attacked during '80s, they would have.

I am quite sure that Pakistan will find other ways to deal with this issue rather than deep strikes.
 
Aghans will not take any action , their strings are moving from different direction .. what ever we want ... we have to do on our own now ... Americans will leave this region with all this mess like they did in cold war ...
this is correct time to do some Air strikes , and give a strong message to Afghan govt and peoples that they must remember their " Aukaat "
 

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