Alice Wells is trying hard to woo Imran Khan...

[Verve]

After all the hybrid war on CPEC, US Deep State is finally playing upfront fully exposing itself.

Good I say. Game is all out in open now.

Reduce the US Embassy size, now!

 

[Haris Ali2140]

GCC itself is trying to get a fair share into CPEC if it becomes a reality and many from US will have to back it eventually coz no matter how much they deny. Chinese business is beneficial to US since many industries had moved their headquarters/ sub contacting there though some moved many still operate from there

We need to get our shit together first if we want businees. Everyone will come if we have the right policies.
Donald Trump is accussing China since his first day in office that China is keeping it's currencies' value down to manipulate markets meanwhile we threw billions of dollars into markets to keep it under valued. On top of that the dollar we threw we even borrowed.

 

[ARMalik]

In the past few weeks, there has been a change in the Western media about China. There is now almost non-stop Anti-China propaganda and programs. Funny enough, Russia use to be the Number-1 target on the media. But now it has disappeared from the media and replaced by China. To me this means only one thing - The West have declared China as their number-1 enemy. And any country which stands with China will be targeted. This means Pakistan as well. So next few months will be very interesting.

 

[Adil Khan Kakar]

I am really concerned about sudden interest of US in "debt burden" of Pakistan.
1) US establishment could have conveyed their concern to Pak estab/Govt directly.
2) US have a lot of agents in Pak press, opposition and even Govt. These assets could have been used.
3) But coming straight in public speaking against Cpec is not understandable.
4) i was reading comment section of this video almost all Pakistanis were commenting against US.
5) Govt is going to auction many oil and gas fields for drilling in next month. Perhaps US wants her share in that?
We need to analyze this situation. It is not normal

 

[Dubious]

We need to get our shit together first if we want businees. Everyone will come if we have the right policies.
Donald Trump is accussing China since his first day in office that China is keeping it's currencies' value down to manipulate markets meanwhile we threw billions of dollars into markets to keep it under valued. On top of that the dollar we threw we even borrowed.

Yes we need your get our shit together ....but it's so messed up it could take years

Did you see any indication that US wants to join CPEC ?

Where did you get that idea?

I said GCC wants to join...There are articles and news pieces on pdf also.

I said US can't do without China...I am talking about economics. ..Most of American things are imported from China
Basic small pieces to clothes. No matter how much US brags they can't make do without Chinese manufacturing...

Plus their own offices for large manufacturing are in China and if not then subcontracted to China. Yes US is moving away...but it won't happen overnight.

And American government has to think for these large businesses...

I believe most folks over here are grossly under-estimating US and its desire to subjugate Pakistan in coming future.

I think you are over thinking it due to some empty threats....worst comes to worst we can be unjustly sanctioned as in the past to favour India coz India isn't getting sanctioned for human rights atrocities because Kashmiris are not human enough to trigger any response just like Palestinians...

Only way is to sway the power and this can be done has been done in the past.

And every power ends in a fall....

 

[maximuswarrior]

You still don't understand do you....

China is now considered number 1 enemy by the state department and pentagon...Priority of US is now to restrict the expansion of China by limiting every single mega projects that will ultimately benefit China.

Why do you think Alice well do a one hour long program on CPEC alone ? Definitely something is very concerning. Watch the interview .. Did you see any indication that US wants to join CPEC ?

I believe most folks over here are grossly under-estimating US and its desire to subjugate Pakistan in coming future.

The US has one and only one goal in mind. Total control and domination and containment of China.

Pakistan and US goals are not only miles apart, but conflicting.

 

[Path-Finder]

I believe most folks over here are grossly under-estimating US and its desire to subjugate Pakistan in coming future.

they are NOT Allah!

 

[Ali_Baba]

To be fair. Alice Wells is correct on the following points and i dont think most members will disagree on :

1 - Most of the CPEC projects are resource by importing chinese labour in from China, depriving local Pakistani from participating and acquiring new skills which may help them to build long term careers. This sourcing of labour means, that Pakistan doesnot "learn" how to do these sort of large scale projects themselves in the future, forcing Pakistan to go back to China, again ...
2 - Most of the most materials are imported directly from China, depriving local companies from building skills, capabilities and having a chance to participate in economic activities from participation.
3 - All of CPEC is funded by Chinese goverment loans that require sovereign guarantees to be made by Pakistan on both profits of these ventures, and repayment of loans.

Items 1 and 2 can be addresses by a change in approach on how these projects are structured and can therefore deprive some of the negative publicity surrounding CPEC.

Mind you, aspects of CPEC will allow Pakistan to gain political and physical leverage over China, and it will bypass India and allow fuels, and exports to not have to travel large swathes of open sea before reaching their intended locations.

 

[maximuswarrior]

To be fair. Alice Wells is correct on the following points and i dont think most members will disagree on :

1 - Most of the CPEC projects are resource by importing chinese labour in from China, depriving local Pakistani from participating and acquiring new skills which may help them to build long term careers. This sourcing of labour means, that Pakistan doesnot "learn" how to do these sort of large scale projects themselves in the future, forcing Pakistan to go back to China, again ...
2 - Most of the most materials are imported directly from China, depriving local companies from building skills, capabilities and having a chance to participate in economic activities from participation.
3 - All of CPEC is funded by Chinese goverment loans that require sovereign guarantees to be made by Pakistan on both profits of these ventures, and repayment of loans.

Items 1 and 2 can be addresses by a change in approach on how these projects are structured and can therefore deprive some of the negative publicity surrounding CPEC..

Why are the Americans so obsessed with Pakistan and CPEC? Why can't they mind their own business and let Pakistan decide whether this is a good or bad deal? We don't need American lecturing on projects we signed with other nations.

We don't lecture the US about good and bad infrastructure/trade deals they have signed or how they have accumulated the largest debt in the universe.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Why are the Americans so be obsessed with Pakistan and CPEC? Why can't they mind their own business and let Pakistan decide whether this is good or bad? We don't need American lecturing on projects we signed with other nations.

I agree, they are obsessed, because they see it will increase Chinese leverage over Pakistan and at the same time, reduce their leverage and Influence over Pakistan even more than it is right now.

It will help China's economy a great deal as it will shorten supply lines and the shorter delivery lines will make China even more competitive.

But, we have to ask ourselves, how much of CPEC is benefitting Pakistan. The advantage for China, and disadvantage for USA is plain to see.. But, is Pakistan's paying for China's success? That is the question. If the answer is no, and this will benefit Pakistan and generate enough economic activity to benefit Pakistan and repay those loans from the increased econimic activity then happy days, if not, then we have to ask why.. and we should always be asking this regardless of who they are....

 

[maximuswarrior]

I agree, they are obsessed, because they see it will increase Chinese leverage over Pakistan and at the same time, reduce their leverage and Influence over Pakistan even more than it is right now.

It will help China's economy a great deal as it will shorten supply lines and the shorter delivery lines will make China even more competitive.

But, we have to ask ourselves, how much of CPEC is benefitting Pakistan. The advantage for China, and disadvantage for USA is plain to see.. But, is Pakistan's paying for China's success? That is the question. If the answer is no, and this will benefit Pakistan and generate enough economic activity to benefit Pakistan and repay those loans from the increased econimic activity then happy days, if not, then we have to ask why.. and we should always be asking this regardless of who they are....

The government is not crazy. Neither are the armed forces. They have weighed all pros and cons before signing such a massive deal. Also, all deals contain give and take. China is going to reap benefits and so is Pakistan. It is a win win. CPEC is a superb deal for Pakistan. Infrastructure is being built by experienced Chinese engineers who work committedly, without beaurocratic delays and corruption. Pakistan has no such workforce. If we have one your argument would be valid. In the long run the infrastructure will benefit Pakistan massively. Trading will happen through China and this is going trigger economic activity in Pakistan. If the materials are being imported there must be a good reason for that. We don't know every detail of the deal. In short, the list of benefits for Pakistan are huge. Pakistan is going to win no matter what.

Is the US going to invest 70 billion dollars in Pakistan be it loans on soft terms? Is Europe going to invest this amount in Pakistan? These critics are only good at spreading cheap lies. They don't have any investment in Pakistan. Instead they accuse Pakistan day and night. In reality the critics have nothing to show for. They only talk and their real motives are against China and Pakistan. US has only one goal which is to undermine Pakistan and China. US history is filled with treacherous behaviour against China and Pakistan.

We don't need the accusers to shed crocodile tears and worry about the state of our economy. It is laughable.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

America under UN just recently blocked Pakistani attempts to tag some Indian nationals as terrorists, involved in most gruesome terrorist acts like APS, Peshawar. I presume this policy came from her department.

America is actively protecting state terrorists of nations who are allined with her.

And then there is a small matter of Pakistani external debts where majority of it is actually a liability which comes from American lead westerns banks and institutions.

Is she high on some really hardcore weed?

 

[maximuswarrior]

America under UN just recently blocked Pakistani attempts to tag some Indian nationals as terrorists, involved in most gruesome terrorist acts like APS, Peshawar. I presume this policy came from her department.

America is actively protecting state terrorists of nations who are allined with her.

And then there is a small matter of Pakistani external debts where majority of it is actually a liability which comes from American lead westerns banks and institutions.

Is she high on some really hardcore weed?

The American deep state are thugs. They want to dominate and control the world at every cost. It won't happen in our region. Pakistan and China are going to thwart any attempt by the US to undermine or control our region.

 

[Village life]

Hi,

I was laughing at the desperation shown by her---. Surprised---surprised---surprised---.

That was at first---now I am getting concerned---. Had time to analyze---.

Nawaz Sharif is gone to england----Alice Wells speech comes out at a critical time---.

The Sharifs are ready to sell pakistan one more time---.

If Zardari is let go---then Zardaris would be selling pakistan as well.

Bad bad mistake by Imran Khan letting Nawaz go---.

with due respect,it's a last effort to salvage a dwindling asset in Pakistan who is exposed and neutralized successfully , now take a deep breath and think again, leave small traitors like Ns and AAz aside they are small worms of Anglo American establishment anus, when big worms are drenched it causes pain , lot of pain and nausea,

 

[M.Bison]

To be fair. Alice Wells is correct on the following points and i dont think most members will disagree on :

1 - Most of the CPEC projects are resource by importing chinese labour in from China, depriving local Pakistani from participating and acquiring new skills which may help them to build long term careers. This sourcing of labour means, that Pakistan doesnot "learn" how to do these sort of large scale projects themselves in the future, forcing Pakistan to go back to China, again ...
2 - Most of the most materials are imported directly from China, depriving local companies from building skills, capabilities and having a chance to participate in economic activities from participation.
3 - All of CPEC is funded by Chinese goverment loans that require sovereign guarantees to be made by Pakistan on both profits of these ventures, and repayment of loans.

Items 1 and 2 can be addresses by a change in approach on how these projects are structured and can therefore deprive some of the negative publicity surrounding CPEC.

Mind you, aspects of CPEC will allow Pakistan to gain political and physical leverage over China, and it will bypass India and allow fuels, and exports to not have to travel large swathes of open sea before reaching their intended locations.

Those are good points, and definitely something to think about. Why aren't the Chinese training young Pakistanis to do these infrastructure projects and why arent local companies are given a share?

But the real question is why would the Chinese do that? Why should the Chinese train people in Pakistan?

The facts are simple, Pakistan over the past few decades has failed to train a meaningful labor force. There is massive intellectual flight within Pakistan because of the rampant corruption and lack of opportunities.
To even train a proper mason takes years and those days are gone now people use machines. Training technicians, engineers and other human capital required for the CPEC will take literally decades.
Think about why India can't compete with the Chinese. It is not because there aren't enough young people in India. Its because India doesn't already have the skilled labor force required to compete with China. Just like china doesn't have enough English speakers to compete with the Indians in customer service jobs.

So the number one question is why would the Chinese wait that long, when they could do it themselves and sure up their shipping and fuel routes? Do you hear about the South China sea any more?. No, you don't because the Chinese are now looking into Gwadar and CPEC. So the Americans are crying wolf.
The Chinese will always think about themselves first and then the iron brother. They are on a timeline, and their philosophy is to not confront the west with ships but to ring them out dry with economics.

All this CPEC talk is meaningless already. I think this project is doomed to fail because we have leaders like that lady in the audience who was in the senate. She barely knows how to speak and represented how many people?
The Chinese have already started looking at alternatives like Iran.

Pakistan since its inspection has not had free thinkers and never trained free thinkers. After the British left, Pakistan went towards the Americans/Arabs and shunned the Soviets. Today we are again at the schism, and we are shunning one side over the other. instead of thinking for ourselves we have this lady telling us how to think through her Fulbright program. Once the mind goes then goes all else and that's how the American establishment thinks.

The Chinese are a really good option. It is the only country that does full technology transfers with us, defends us on the world stage and has helped with our security. No other country has done that, especially not the western ones. but we have to be smart. Once, CPEC is operational then Pakistan will become a security issue for the Chinese. Then there is a possibility that we will change our slave collar from the west to the Chinese.

Looks pretty though

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