AlhamduliLLAH, KF21 first flight, landed safely

[waz]

Well done Indonesia excellent news, another fifth generation takes to the skies.

 

[Luosifen]

Well done Indonesia excellent news, another fifth generation takes to the skies.

My understanding is that this version is a 4.5+ gen, future blocks with internal weapons bays will get it to gen 5 though. Which components of this aircraft are dependent on the Americans? They will do what they can to undermine competition, a read of what happened to the Canadian Avro Arrow and its aerospace industries will testify to that.

 

[Indos]

Well done Indonesia excellent news, another fifth generation takes to the skies.

Thanks bro, we hope no drama anymore on Indonesian financial contribution. Our President will visit South Korea this month and defense industry will be discussed as well based on Korean source.

Look like the plane will be developed into bigger airframe and could be used another engine (more powerful engine), which is necessary to improve the range and put more missiles inside the internal weapon bay.

We will see......

 

[Indos]

My understanding is that this version is a 4.5+ gen, future blocks with internal weapons bays will get it to gen 5 though. Which components of this aircraft are dependent on the Americans? They will do what they can to undermine competition, a read of what happened to the Canadian Avro Arrow and its aerospace industries will testify to that.

I believe it is more than 4.5 + gen. The electronic I think pretty much the same, but the design has already been STEALTHY and if the plane is only used for Air2Air combat with 4 AA missiles in semi recess belly then it is pretty much having huge advantage then plane like Rafale.

Later I believe there will be STEALTH coating and also 3 wingman drone accompanying the plane that can be used for Air2 Ground attack, so basically for Air2ground attack the plane doesnt need to bring bombs that can compromise its Stealthy feature, bombs will be put in Stealth wingman drone internal weapon bay

 

[murugan]

It's tremendous development. Not just the machine but the eco system for advanced aircraft development which really matters the most in the long run.
There are many folds and many layers of learning curves to this from metallurgy to software development.
Praise worthy.
There is a lot to learn from this project. India should focus on innovation and creativity side by side should accept the humility and improve upon the cumbersome bureaucratic as well as administrative management to speed up skill based quick model of implementation and production.

Sadly people here are distracted from the real developmental path ways

 

[LakeHawk180]

Nice. Congratulations!

 

[Song Hong]

I believe it is more than 4.5 + gen. The electronic I think pretty much the same, but the design has already been STEALTHY and if the plane is only used for Air2Air combat with 4 AA missiles in semi recess belly then it is pretty much having huge advantage then plane like Rafale.

Later I believe there will be STEALTH coating and also 3 wingman drone accompanying the plane that can be used for Air2 Ground attack, so basically for Air2ground attack the plane doesnt need to bring bombs that can compromise its Stealthy feature, bombs will be put in Stealth wingman drone internal weapon bay

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Base on what is available on requirement on stealth, this plane wont be stealthy yet.

Latest news is Korea will upgrade it until it become stealthy at 2030 or later.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Indian member in Indian defense forum said the program is started since 2001 which is wrong. The program is started since beginning of 2011

What do you expect from the Indian liars.

On Topic - Congrats to Indonesia.

 

[Song Hong]

Today, stealth technology has become COTS. Not so difficult to implement.

Also most fight jet component is COTS.

 

[Skull and Bones]

Good looking aircraft

 

[Indos]

 

[Song Hong]

The J20, F22, J35 are stealth aircraft. These days the many criterion to enable stealth is already revealed to radar engineers. KF21 is not stealth. But according to specs revealed online, KF21 is a very very good aircraft, with a very low RCX. Avionics and radar are very good.

 

[Indos]

What do you expect from the Indian liars.

On Topic - Congrats to Indonesia.

Thanks

Yup, all Indian YT channel that I saw talking about KF21 first flight made many lies. They also said Lockheed Martin joined the program since 2010 LOL

KAI and LM join the program in 2015 it is because LM is technical assistant for KAI. The selection is based on tender, there was European consortium partner with other Korean company who also wants to be partner, but Korea chose KAI and LM as its technical assistant.

Complete real story can be seen in KFX/IFX sticky thread in Far East section, I put respected Indonesian media, Kompas, who tell about the story since it has still in the form of plan but not yet executed.

Any way longer video of first flight is just released by South Korea Air Force

 

[Vapnope]

Congratulations. Indeed a big achievement.

 

[Viet]

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Congrats
However I question the usefulness. The jet uses US engine. The jet probably uses most parts including weapons from US, EU, Japan. That makes the jet highly dependent and expensive.
So why not buy the original F35, now prized $85 million something?