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Alcohol and freedom under secular liberalism

What is to blame for the disastrous effects of alcohol in the west?


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I rather have secular liberalism and all the evil that comes with it...than to have no freedom at all.

you might as well ban smoking as well

http://pakobserver.net/2016/05/31/110000-pakistanis-die-annually-from-smoking/

Freedom has limits and as such is arbitrary. All societies limit freedom.

Smoking is prohibited in Islam as well.

It's feminism and a twisted concept of women's rights :D

Actually bro , if you read the article its says that the doctors and health care professionals actually warned about alcohol consumption during pregnancy . The women's rights group reacted angrily saying its condescending and violation of their freedom. Due to the social climate doctors find it hard to quiz mothers about their alcohol consumption. Hence I added the option in the poll. :)
 
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@Luffy500 I am sick of your anti-western rants. They are not based on fact but just hatred and no differant from @MarkusS. Both of you are the contraflow on the same road.

I don't have time now as I am off to London but I would remind you alcohol flows everywhere. East, West, South, North. Look at the map below. Only the region within the green line has low alcohol consumption. Beyond this - which is most of the east, west, north and south alcohol runs freely except for small pockets. China in absolute terms is huge alcohol consumer and would be even higher was it not for the fact that Chinese are notoriously poor at handling drink. So if you are going to give a rant at least get your facts right.

And just for the record I don't drink although I did in the past "experiment" with various mind bending substances one of them alcohol.

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@Luffy500 I am sick of your anti-western rants. They are not based on fact but just hatred and no differant from @MarkusS. Both of you are the contraflow on the same road.

I don't have time now as I am off to London but I would remind you alcohol flows everywhere. East, West, South, North. Look at the map below. Only the region within the green line has low alcohol consumption. Beyond this - which is most of the east, west, north and south alcohol runs freely except for small pockets. China in absolute terms is huge alcohol consumer and would be even higher was it not for the fact that Chinese are notoriously poor at handling drink. So if you are going to give a rant at least get your facts right.

And just for the record I don't drink although I did in the past "experiment" with various mind bending substances one of them alcohol.

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I am NOT anti-western and do not hate westerners. I am anti-secular , anti-liberal and anti-western-government and I hate the kufr of secularism and liberalism whether its manifested in the muslim or non-muslim world. The current world order is based on secular liberalism and china, south america , c.america , India , Russia are also secular states. All the countries within the green line are muslim majority countries and hence low alcohol consumption. SO my point stands.
 
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For me its enough that my Lord has forbidden alcohol. It is to him we submit. Whatever his commands be. No ifs, no buts. Thats the meaning of Muslim.
 
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This image very closely resembles my room and some parts of our flat look like the next image
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There used to be a cleaning drive everytime parents are about to visit us. This freedom is something precious :smitten:.
 
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