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Al-Qaeda claims responsibility of Bhutto's assassination

We were talking about South Asia, not just India. So why the need to point out Sri Lanka like it's some foreign place?

You mentioned India, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. Not me.

Sharpen your memory!

Therefore, the clarification from my side.

Tamil Hindus are the same whether they're in Sri Lanka or Bangalore.

Again this shows your narrow minded approach, religious bigotedness and total ignorance.

Sri Lankan Tamils are not similar to Indian Tamils. Their culture is different and their language is different even if it appears near similar. Notwithstanding if they are Hindus, Christians or Moslems.

Do educate yourself before commenting.

Are Arab Moslems similar to Pakistani Moslems?


The point, as I'll remind you again, is that there's no need to distinguish this attack on Bhutto from the ones on Hasina or on Gandhi in India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, or wherever else in South Asia.

Why not?

AQ is an international organisation while the others are local with local issues and nothing to do with ummah and all that.

Is the AQ a Pakistani oriented organisation?

Are you suggesting that AQ is Pakistan centric and spawned by Pakistan?


And I don't quite get who you're calling a religious fanatic here. If it's me, then I sure am glad to learn something new about myself. If it's Pakistan as a whole I totally disagree. I believe Hindutva fanatics in India are the most radical bigots stagnating in their state of religious stupor, not only in South Asia but on the whole PLANET! One look at who the radical Indian population voted in in the mid 90s (BJP fundamentalist) is testimony to the fact that Indians are the most bigotted people on the planet. If India had any oil, or was more centrally positioned in the world geographically instead of butting out into the ocean beneath Asia, you can bet it would be Hindu fundamentalism that would be the biggest threat to world peace. And the case would be extremely easy to make against it.

I am not calling you a fanatic.

I am only trying to analyse why you and others bring in religion and Islam in mundane issues of politics as a cure all. Check the posts.

I am no fan of the BJP or any of their off shoots. But show me where any India and used Hinduism or any religion to be a cure all.

And yet your and others post always invoke God and things religious to be used as a cure all.

Don't worry about Hindu fanatics. They are troubling India alone.

Worry about the Islamist fundamentalists, who are not only troubling the world, but also Islamic countries, including Pakistan.

First, worry about your own home and then worry about others.


And lastly, cheer up. It could be worse!
 
Whats the opinion on the Saudi's continuing to bankroll him, indirectly even, through funding Madrassa's? And the money from the drug trade would not be insignificant by any means.


Rubish

He has been working for more convenienc of U _ S

The money through drug trade is certainly there but he did not get any from Madrassas.
Rather dollors at work .

Will post in detail 2mrw but we need to look at all asepects.

for Saudi Arabia backng him has no solid reason as Al-Qaeda is the main opponent of Saudi Arabia and more willing to take on Arabia's shiekhs.

If at all Saudi Arabia has to fund these could be Taliban not Al-Qaeda.

While Mehsud is playing i hands of some other powers not Taliban nor Saudi Arabia.

Afghanistan is currently harbouring his all other anti-Pakistan elements activities
 
Jana,

Agnostic may not be correct, but I am yet to see him posting rubbish.

I think you should refute his contention with facts and not get rude.

You are only allowed to be rude to me! ;)

Now, be a good little girl and say sorry!
 
Jana,

Let's ask you a question since you are a journalist.

Who is funding the madrassas?
 
First, worry about your own home and then worry about others.


And lastly, cheer up. It could be worse!

if you do the same it would be much better for all of us :)

its pitty yoy guys rush to every forum to spill your hatered against Pakistan and Muslims i wish if you guys spend the same amount of time on discussing problems of India by now you must have find some soultion to many things instead of giving your nation and decieving own people by fake dramas
 
Jana,

Agnostic may not be correct, but I am yet to see him posting rubbish.

I think you should refute his contention with facts and not get rude.

You are only allowed to be rude to me! ;)

Now, be a good little girl and say sorry!


I will settle it with him dont worry.

for your last line

well Sir Ray you still have to prove that you are a civilized man ;)

i still owe you an appology and i believe you can not stoop low by not appologizing. \
 
Govt press briefing, accused Baitullah Masood( congrats his friends on phone after the death,recorded telephones). He has to go now ? ?
 
if you do the same it would be much better for all of us :)

its pitty yoy guys rush to every forum to spill your hatered against Pakistan and Muslims i wish if you guys spend the same amount of time on discussing problems of India by now you must have find some soultion to many things instead of giving your nation and decieving own people by fake dramas

Jana,

First answer my post in the previous page.

You are being unfair. I have not split any hatred towards Pakistan or Moslems. You are well aware I have Moslems as relatives.

India has many problems and who is denying it. Oh sure, it has and serious one at that too!

Solutions?

As difficult as the same as in Pakistan. Maybe easier, but then our govt is not so efficient as yours. Maybe it is a genuine democracy! I would not know. All I know is that it is not so efficient as Pakistan's govt.

Happy?
 
I will settle it with him dont worry.

for your last line

well Sir Ray you still have to prove that you are a civilized man ;)

i still owe you an appology and i believe you can not stoop low by not appologizing. \

Are you talking about Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan post?

I said that if your grandparents were not of that time, then I apologise and that too if you are a Pathan.

Haven't you read the post?

Pathans historically of that time were with Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan and you cannot wipe away history! It is Pathan history!
 
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Hamid says BB, Nawaz, Sherpao, Fazl also among targets

Associated Press of Pakistan

ISLAMABAD: Caretaker Minister for Interior Hamid Nawaz on Monday said that there is life threat to President Pervez Musharraf, Aftab Ahmed Khan Sherpao and JUI leader Maulana Fazlur-Rehman from the al-Qaeda operatives.

The minister made these remarks while talking to a private TV channel. He said, sufficient progress had been made in investigation of the Charsadda suicide attack but, did not give any father detail as it could harm the investigation process.

Complete security-cover has been provided to prominent political personalities including Benazir Bhutto, Nawaz Sharif, former prime minister Shaukat Aziz, Shujaat Hussain, Fazlur Rehman, Aftab Ahmed Khan Sherpao and Engineer Amir Muqam, he added.
Despite such a clear warning breaching security measures can be termed only as fool hardy.
 
if you do the same it would be much better for all of us :)

its pitty yoy guys rush to every forum to spill your hatered against Pakistan and Muslims i wish if you guys spend the same amount of time on discussing problems of India by now you must have find some soultion to many things instead of giving your nation and decieving own people by fake dramas

I've followed Salim across several forums and I've never seen him "spill your hatered against Pakistan and Muslims". He has certainly criticised Pakistan, but then there are very few subjects he does not view with a critical eye, including his own country.
Perhaps you are mistaking him for someone else.
 
As for Al Q's strongholds (a very simplistic notion), I would say there's no strongholds in Pakistan, just pockets of them around, as with a lot of other countries. However, Pakistan does have the Pakistani Taliban, which is a regional player in the politics of Afghanistan, they appear to have a common goal, separate from those of the Americans and the Pakistani government. But Al Q strongholds in Chitral or NWFP, not a chance.

My bad, I should have used 'concentration' instead of stronghold which remains in Afghanistan. Nobody exactly knows the number, all we have is estimates and its concentrated in Northern Area's.
There's no Pakistani Taliban or AQ, no way!
 
Pakistan names suspect in Bhutto killing

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - Pakistan's government announced it had evidence that an al-Qaida operative was behind the assassination of Benazir Bhutto, who was laid to rest Friday as the army tried to quell a frenzy of rioting that left 27 people dead less than two weeks before national elections.

The government, led by President Pervez Musharraf, also said Bhutto was not killed by gunshots or shrapnel as originally claimed. Instead, it said her skull was shattered by the force of a suicide bomb blast that slammed her against a lever in her car's sunroof.

The new explanations by the government in the death of Bhutto, Musharraf's most powerful foe in the elections, were part of a rapidly evolving political crisis. The rioting by Bhutto's furious supporters raised concerns that this nuclear-armed nation, plagued by chaos and the growing threat from Islamic militants even before the killing, was in danger of spinning out of control.

Pentagon officials said Friday they have seen nothing to give them any worries about the state of Pakistan's nuclear arsenal.

While many grieving Pakistanis turned to violence, hundreds of thousands paid their last respects to the popular opposition leader as she was placed beside her father in a marble mausoleum in the Bhutto ancestral village in southern Sindh province.

"I don't know what will happen to the country now," said mourner Nazakat Soomro, 32.

The government said it would hunt down those responsible for her death in the lawless tribal areas along the Afghan border where Osama bin Laden and other al-Qaida leaders are thought to be hiding.

"They will definitely be brought to justice," Interior Ministry spokesman Javed Iqbal Cheema said.

The government released a transcript Friday of a purported conversation between militant leader Baitullah Mehsud and another militant.

"It was a spectacular job. They were very brave boys who killed her," Mehsud said, according to the transcript. The government did not release an audiotape.

Cheema described Mehsud as an al-Qaida leader who was also behind most other recent terror attacks in Pakistan, including the Karachi bomb blast in October against Bhutto that killed more than 140 people.

Mehsud is thought to be the commander of pro-Taliban forces in the tribal region of South Waziristan, where al-Qaida fighters are also active.

In the transcript, Mehsud gives his location as Makin, a town in South Waziristan.

This fall, he was quoted in a Pakistani newspaper as saying that he would welcome Bhutto's return from exile with suicide bombers. Mehsud later denied that in statements to local television and newspaper reporters.

Cheema announced the formation of two inquiries into Bhutto's death, one to be carried out by a high court judge and another by security forces. Bhutto was assassinated Thursday evening after a rally in the garrison city of Rawalpindi near Islamabad. Twenty other people also died in the attack.

On Thursday, authorities had said Bhutto died from bullet wounds fired by a young man who then blew himself up. A surgeon who treated her, however, said Friday she died from the impact of shrapnel on her skull.

But later Friday, Cheema said those two accounts were mistaken. He said all three shots missed her as she greeted supporters through the sunroof of her vehicle, which was bulletproof and bombproof.

He also denied that shrapnel caused her death, saying Bhutto was killed when she tried to duck back into the vehicle, and that the shock waves from the blast knocked her head into a lever attached to the sunroof, fracturing her skull. The government released a photograph showing blood on the lever.

Denying charges the government failed to give her adequate security protection, Cheema said it was Bhutto who made herself vulnerable and pointed out that the other passengers inside Bhutto's bombproof vehicle were fine.

"I wish she had not come out of the rooftop of her vehicle," he said.

Bhutto's death sparked deadly rioting that killed at least 27 people, according to an Interior Ministry official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

Rioters in the southern city of Karachi torched 500 vehicles, 13 banks, seven gas stations and two police stations, police chief Azhar Farooqi said. The violence killed 13 people, including five workers in a garment factory that was set ablaze, police said. A shootout between rioters and police wounded three officers, police said.

Another six people died from suffocation in Mirpurkhas, about 200 miles northeast of Karachi, when a bank building was set on fire, said Ghulam Mohammed Mohtaram, the top civilian security official in Sindh province.

About 7,000 people in the central city of Multan ransacked seven banks and a gas station and threw stones at police, who responded with tear gas. Media reports said 200 banks were attacked nationwide.

Vandals also burned 10 railway stations and several trains across Sindh province, forcing the suspension of all train service between Karachi and the eastern Punjab province, said Mir Mohammed Khaskheli, a senior railroad official.

An Associated Press reporter saw nine cars of a train completely burned. Witnesses said all the passengers were pulled out before the train was torched.

Desperate to quell the violence, the government sent troops into the streets of Hyderabad, Karachi and other areas in Sindh. In Hyderabad, the soldiers refused to let people out of their homes, witnesses said.

The army readied 20 battalions of troops for deployment across Sindh if they were needed to stop the violence, according to a military statement.

"We will sternly deal with those who are trying to create disorder," Cheema said.

Paramilitary rangers were also given the authority to use live fire to stop rioters from damaging property in the region, said Maj. Asad Ali, the rangers' spokesman.

"We have orders to shoot on sight," he said.

Many cities were nearly deserted as businesses closed and public transportation came to a halt at the start of three days of national mourning for Bhutto.

Prime Minister Mohammedmian Soomro said the government had no immediate plans to postpone Jan. 8 parliamentary elections, despite the violence and the decision by Nawaz Sharif, another opposition leader, to boycott the poll.

"Right now the elections stand where they were," he told a news conference.

The United States, which sees Pakistan as a crucial ally in the war on terror, was counting on Musharraf to proceed with the vote in the hope it will cement steps toward restoring democracy after the six-week state of emergency he declared last month.

Keeping the election on track was the biggest immediate concern in sustaining an American policy of promoting stability, moderation and democracy in Pakistan, U.S. officials said Friday.

Bhutto's death left her populist party without a clear successor. Her husband, Asif Ali Zardari, who was freed in December 2004 after eight years in detention on graft charges, is one contender to head the party although he lacks the cachet of a blood relative from the Bhutto clan's political dynasty.

Throughout the day, hundreds of thousands of mourners arrived in Bhutto's hometown of Garhi Khuda Bakhsh in tractors, buses, cars and jeeps for her funeral cortege and burial.

Bhutto's plain wood coffin, draped in the red, green and black flag of her Pakistan People's Party, was carried in a white ambulance toward the marble mausoleum about three miles away, passing a burning passenger train on the way.

Pakistan names suspect in Bhutto killing - Yahoo! News
 
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