Al-Khalid tank (Type 90-IIM / MBT-2000) Information Pool

[Hassannn85]

For the more knowledgeable people in this forum: Why doesnt Pakistan go for ZTZ 99A or T14 Armata instead of VT4 (according to some reports we're looking at 100)?

 

[ZAC1]

I have said it earlier but I will say it again.
Their is no delay or slow down in production. But on the contrary we have the highest production for the last couple of years.
At the same time hmc is being retooled n it will double the rate of production.

So how many we have ?

 

[Aryeih Leib]

For the more knowledgeable people in this forum: Why doesnt Pakistan go for ZTZ 99A or T14 Armata instead of VT4 (according to some reports we're looking at 100)?

Sir , with respect . are these tanks currently available to pakistan

 

[ZAC1]

Sir , with respect . are these tanks currently available to pakistan

VT4 and ZTZ99A are....t14 no chance

 

[Army research]

We already have a exact equivalent of the type 99, same weight power package armament profile al Khalid , next tanks should get something with a integrated fire and forget missile so the commander can engage physically one tanks while the gunner fires his LOS missile at another , it would sound all enemy bells and a attack would lose force if it encouters of troop of such tanks,

 

[Keysersoze]

We already have a exact equivalent of the type 99, same weight power package armament profile al Khalid , next tanks should get something with a integrated fire and forget missile so the commander can engage physically one tanks while the gunner fires his LOS missile at another , it would sound all enemy bells and a attack would lose force if it encouters of troop of such tanks,

I thought t96 was the equivalent and not the type99

 

[LKJ86]

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[Muhammad Omar]

Is China Offering ZTZ-99A to Pakistan??

 

[lcloo]

Al-Khalid (46 tons) is in the same weight class as type 96 (42.8 tons). Type 99 is much more heavy in weight at 54 to 58 tons. VT-4 is the export version of type 99.

Latest version of type 99 is type 99A, which is currently in PLA service. If China will to export type 99A, it will still be designated as VT-4 main battle tank. May be they will call it VT-4P or Al-Khalid II (with TOT and produce in Pakistan).

 

[Great Janjua]

Update

 

[S10]

Al-Khalid (46 tons) is in the same weight class as type 96 (42.8 tons). Type 99 is much more heavy in weight at 54 to 58 tons. VT-4 is the export version of type 99.

Latest version of type 99 is type 99A, which is currently in PLA service. If China will to export type 99A, it will still be designated as VT-4 main battle tank. May be they will call it VT-4P or Al-Khalid II (with TOT and produce in Pakistan).

Nope, VT-4 and Type 99A aren't from the same family.

1. Type 99 Branch: T-72M/T-80U -> Type 98 -> Type 99 -> Type 99A
2. Type 96 Branch: Type 80/Type 88 - > Type 85/Type 88C -> Type 96 -> Type 96A
3. Export Branch: Type 85/Type 88C -> Type 90 -> Type 90II/MBT 2000 -> MBT 3000/VT-4

 

[Cool_Soldier]

Tank production rate is pretty slow plus Alkhalid-2 is awaiting for long. Nothing is role out yet.
Perhaps, this deficiency will be filled by purchasing VT4 from China and Aplot from Ukraine.

 

[his5850]

 

[S10]

For the more knowledgeable people in this forum: Why doesnt Pakistan go for ZTZ 99A or T14 Armata instead of VT4 (according to some reports we're looking at 100)?

Type 99A isn't for export. Its frontal armor composition is a closely guarded secret, same way Americans do not provide depleted uranium armor packages for their exported M1 tanks.

 

[Signalian]

We already have a exact equivalent of the type 99, same weight power package armament profile al Khalid , next tanks should get something with a integrated fire and forget missile so the commander can engage physically one tanks while the gunner fires his LOS missile at another , it would sound all enemy bells and a attack would lose force if it encouters of troop of such tanks,

More bells and whistles makes the MBT expensive to buy, maintain and operate. Even USA has M1A2 with different standards of up gradation. Countries operating Leo2 also have different standards or upgradation, like A4, A5 or A6.

AK-II is supposed to be the backbone of PA armor, it should have enough room for numerous upgrades of different types during its life time. If the first version is even slightly better than AK-I, it should be inducted to replace older MBT's. Upgrades can happen as its continues to give service over years. The design should be such that it could withstand service of 40-50 years. T-59/69 have given service roughly the same number of years since their induction in 1960's. T-85 has seen service for past 30+ years. Both types have been upgraded over the years.

Replacing some 1200 MBT's is a long process.