Akinci & Aksungur and Turkish Unmanned Fighter Aircraft Program

[Oublious]

No way, the two country would pay billions of dollar and still buy it from America. fake news.

 

[Oublious]

Before 2022 ends KE will go to taxi tests.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1593160362052157441

 

[hyperman]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1594288999438450693

https://twitter.com/x/status/1594318683589025793

 

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[dBSPL]

Many people currently think that TAI's MMU, as an indigenous platform, has the highest degree of secrecy among the TAI projects. This is mostly true, however, the UAV department is preparing for a big show starting from the coming days.

Flight tests of two different unmanned systems by TAI are expected to be shared in the coming days/months.

In addition to these highly classified projects, the TP version of AKSUNGUR is being prepared. And then there is JEMSAH, which has also been disclosed recent year. At least three systems will be introduced in 2023, and there is nothing about more that has yet been reflected in open sources. This information was also confirmed by SSB and TAI officials.

The first of these is the jet-powered UAVs launched from the UAV, of which you have already seen prototype images. JEMSAH is a supersonic autonomous UAV system being developed with a focus on Electronic Attack, air-launched decoy and SEAD, as well as Air Force training and testing activities.

The second, GOKSUNGUR, will be the largest member of the ANKA UAV group. It is a high-altitude mission-capable strategic UCAV with a considerably high payload cap.

The third is an unmanned combat aircraft, codenamed TISU in open sources. It is speculated that this system, unlike the Baykar KE, will have a more stealthy character and will basically be a penetrator bomber.

Before the end of 2022, we expect at least one of GOKSUNGUR or TISU will be available to see in open sources. But, 2023 will be the year of the Turkish aerospace industry's big trunk show under the leadership of industry leaders such as TAI, Baykar, Havelsan, Sage, etc.

Starting from this November, new systems or roll-out ceremonies, first flights and first system deliveries will take place almost every month for the next 36-48 months.

 

[aziqbal]

Many people currently think that TAI's MMU, as an indigenous platform, has the highest degree of secrecy among the TAI projects. This is mostly true, however, the UAV department is preparing for a big show starting from the coming days.

Flight tests of two different unmanned systems by TAI are expected to be shared in the coming days/months.

In addition to these highly classified projects, the TP version of AKSUNGUR is being prepared. And then there is JEMSAH, which has also been disclosed recent year. At least three systems will be introduced in 2023, and there is nothing about more that has yet been reflected in open sources. This information was also confirmed by SSB and TAI officials.

The first of these is the jet-powered UAVs launched from the UAV, of which you have already seen prototype images. JEMSAH is a supersonic autonomous UAV system being developed with a focus on Electronic Attack, air-launched decoy and SEAD, as well as Air Force training and testing activities.

The second, GOKSUNGUR, will be the largest member of the ANKA UAV group. It is a high-altitude mission-capable strategic UCAV with a considerably high payload cap.

The third is an unmanned combat aircraft, codenamed TISU in open sources. It is speculated that this system, unlike the Baykar KE, will have a more stealthy character and will basically be a penetrator bomber.

Before the end of 2022, we expect at least one of GOKSUNGUR or TISU will be available to see in open sources. But, 2023 will be the year of the Turkish aerospace industry's big trunk show under the leadership of industry leaders such as TAI, Baykar, Havelsan, Sage, etc.

Starting from this November, new systems or roll-out ceremonies, first flights and first system deliveries will take place almost every month for the next 36-48 months.

this is 21st century warfare and seems like Turkey has taken a leaf from all the NATO experience and basically re-written a whole new book

that is quite remarkable and a huge development

seems like Turkey wants to conquer the air space above a equally matched foe using the full spectrum of capabilities

sending in low/medium/high altitude UCAVS which can do SEAD/DEAD, EW Jamming, Surveillance, Reconnaissance, Electronic monitoring and then sending in the attack craft with short/medium and long range weapons to known out and take down the defences

basically making a opening in the airspace using 100% autonomous systems and with UCAVS like the Kizilelma they can do even the air to air combat part

and all of these machines will be controlled and integrated into one single battle order using extensive use of AI

 

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[CSAW]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1599092336922923009

 

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Turkiye's highly-ambitious KIZILELMA unmanned Fighter Jet fluttered just above the runway during its latest test



LENGTH

JF-17 : 14.32 m
Mirage-2000 : 14.36 m
JAS-39D GRIPEN : 14.80 m
F-16 : 15.06 m

KIZILELMA : 14.70 m

 

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TAI exported AKSUNGUR UCAVs to two countries, one in South Africa and the other in Central Asia.
(South Africa and Kyrgyzstan)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1600168926515957760

AKSUNGUR is a Medium Altitude Long Endurance (MALE) class UAV System, capable to perform day and night Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR) and strike missions with EO/IR, SAR and SIGINT payloads, and a variety of air to ground weapons. AKSUNGUR is powered by two PD-170 twin-turbocharged diesel engines enabling long endurance operations up to 40,000ft. AKSUNGUR can carry a total of 24 MAM-L ammunition at the same time thanks to its 6 stations. AKSUNGUR can also carry 4 Teber-81 or 2 Teber-82 ammunition.

SYSTEM FEATURES

– Fully autonomous operation
– Dual reduundant automatic flight control system
– Dual redundant automatic take-off and landing system
– Dual redundant electrical power generation system
– Dual redundant digital datalinks with encryption
– DO-178B compliant software
– DO-254 compliant hardware
– GCS and datalink compatibility with existing ANKA UAV systems
– Ice protection system (optional)
– Beyond Line of Sight (BLOS) operation flexibility with SATCOM (optional)

PAYLOAD OPTIONS

IMAGE INTELLIGENCE PAYLOADS
• EO/IR/LD/LRF Camera
• SAR/GMTI-ISAR
• Wide Area Surveillance Camera

SIGNALS INTELLIGENCE (SIGINT) PAYLOADS
• COMINT/DF
• ESM/ELINT

MARITIME PATROL PAYLOADS
• Sonobuoy Pod
• MAD Boom
• SAR/GMTI-ISAR
• Automatic Identification System

COMMUNICATION PAYLOADS
• SATCOM
• Personnel Locating System (PLS)
• V/UHF Radio Relay
• Airborne Communications Node Pod

WEAPONS OPTIONS
• 3 hardpoints on each wing with 500 kg, 300 kg and 150 kg capacities
• TEBER-81 (Laser Guided Mk-81)
• TEBER-82 (Laser Guided Mk-82)
• LUMTAS
• MAM-L
• Cirit
• MAM-C
• HGK-3 (Precision Guidance Kit)
• KGK (82) (Wing Assisted Guidance Kit)
• Small Diameter Bomb

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Source: SavunmaSanayiST.com

 

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KIZILELMA : 14.70 m

Only when you see the runway test video, you realise that its a big aircraft/drone.

 

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KIZILELMA


Speed of mach 0,6 with AI-25TLT turbofan engine
Speed of mach 1.35 with AI-322F turbofan engine

 

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KIZILELMA


Speed of mach 0,6 with AI-25TLT turbofan engine
Speed of mach 1.35 with AI-322F turbofan engine

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• B variant will be capable of supercruise without afterburner.
• The twin-engine, C variant will be able to accelerate up to Mach 2+ with afterburner.

 

[Horse_Rider]

V Tail and Wings

Fuselage

Command-control Shelters

This is a line of site operation. I think Turkey should focus on TB series, then Akinci and kizilElma instead of going in so many directions. These platforms need AI badly in case there is EMP jamming techniques deployed in a war theater disrupting communications.

Next critical steps are to produce in batches the Bozdogan / Gokhan, etc HOBS and BVR missiles and integrate with KizilElma and Akinci to produce a full weapons package for deployment along with AI in KizilElma! That completes a battle worthy system.