Akinci & Aksungur and Turkish Unmanned Fighter Aircraft Program

[TheMightyBender]

are you an engineer?

Are you a judge?

 

[MKALE1]

Are you a judge?

Are you a recognitor ??

Ne büyüdü olay. Arkadaşın dediği doğru tam itki de daha fazla yakıt tüketiyordur. Menzili 500 km olması gerek bence de.

 

[TheMightyBender]

Are you a recognitor ??

What is that even supposed to mean??

 

[Kutsanan]

Are you a judge?

there is hundreds of engineer in TEI and TAI and people like you talking that you dont have any idea.

 

[xbat]

I meant , they already optimized the fuselage, i dont expect too much from body anymore, and yes i am an engineer.

 

[merzifonlu]

"Already optimize"? No, continuously optimizing. New and better materials are added to the system as they are discovered. Or new engines.

 

[xbat]

the composite body was tick , they made it lighter, landing gears changed, wing shape changed, engine replaced with new one etc.

 

[Hexciter]

the composite body was tick , they made it lighter, landing gears changed, wing shape changed, engine replaced with new one etc.

It looks like that TAI closely following the market

“MQ-1C ER Gray Eagle Extended Range UAS is engineered with a Max Gross Takeoff Weight (MGTOW) of 4,200 pounds, utilizing a high-performance 180HP diesel engine compared with the Gray Eagle's GTOW of 3,600 pounds with a 160HP diesel engine. The incorporation of GE-ER's deep belly design and 500-pound centerline hardpoint allows for 900 pounds of internal fuel load, with the capability of an external fuel pod that can accommodate an additional 450 pounds (Gray Eagle's fuel load is 600 pounds).”

From: https://www.armyrecognition.com/apr...r_mq-1c_er_gray_eagle_extended_range_uas.html

 

[kartal1]

 

[kartal1]

For one stupid member who compared Akinci with Aksungur, Aksungur is a MALE uav and Akinci HALE. Before you post stupid politic should talk with knowledge, Baykar will not fear Aksungur and vice vers the same.

You have to rethink what you said. Not about the political part but about the specifications of the UAVs and their categorization.

Akinci HALE
40.000ft maximum operational altitude
24 hours endurance
1350kg equipment and weapons capacity
4.5 ton maximum take off weight

Aksungur HALE
40.000ft maximum operational altitude
40 hours endurance
750kg(?) equipment and weapons capacity
3.3 ton maximum take off weight

A medium-altitude long-endurance UAV (MALE UAV) is an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) that flies at an altitude window of 10,000 to 30,000 feet (3,000—9,000 m) for extended durations of time, typically 24 to 48 hours (Wikipedia)

High Altitude: Above 30.000 feet Akinci(40.000ft): Check Aksungur(40.000): Check
Long Endurance: Within 24-48 hours Akinci(24h): Check Aksungur(40h): Check

 

[Oublious]

You have to rethink what you said. Not about the political part but about the specifications of the UAVs and their categorization.

Akinci HALE
40.000ft maximum operational altitude
24 hours endurance
1350kg equipment and weapons capacity
4.5 ton maximum take off weight

Aksungur HALE
40.000ft maximum operational altitude
40 hours endurance
750kg(?) equipment and weapons capacity
3.3 ton maximum take off weight

A medium-altitude long-endurance UAV (MALE UAV) is an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) that flies at an altitude window of 10,000 to 30,000 feet (3,000—9,000 m) for extended durations of time, typically 24 to 48 hours (Wikipedia)

High Altitude: Above 30.000 feet Akinci(40.000ft): Check Aksungur(40.000): Check
Long Endurance: Within 24-48 hours Akinci(24h): Check Aksungur(40h): Check

Well specs the same maybe but payload is the double, so what now they made a MALE uav with lower payload flying higher, is it the same as Akinci? Or are people saying it is faillure?

 

[kartal1]

Well specs the same maybe but payload is the double, so what now they made a MALE uav with lower payload flying higher, is it the same as Akinci? Or are people saying it is faillure?

Why it would be failure? It is not the same as Akinci but for sure not a MALE. The UAV categorization (MALE<HALE) is not made according to payload. Airbus Zephyr Model 7 have the world record for longest HALE flight. Its flight is at 70.000ft and lasting 336 hours, 22 minutes and 8 seconds. Its MTOW is 53kg.

 

[Mert_Ank]

is that an artistic touch or propfan ?

 

[Hexciter]

AKSUNGUR - UAV with High Load Capacity

ANKA-AKSUNGUR has two double turbocharged PD-170 engines, which allow long-duration operations at up to 40000 ft.

TECHNICIAL SPECIFICATIONS

Motor Type: PD-170 Dual Turbo-charged Diesel
Engine Power: 2x170 HP (Sea Level, ISA)
Wingspan: 24 m
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 3300 kg

Attack / Maritime Patrol Mission: 12 hours at 25000 ft with 750 kg external load
Signal Intelligence Duty: 24 hours at 35000 ft with 150 kg useful load

SYSTEM FEATURES

- Full autonomous operation
- Automatic flight control system with double backup
- Dual redundant automatic take-off and landing system
- Dual redundant electric power generation system
- Dual redundant encrypted data link
- DO-178B compatible software
- DO-254 compatible hardware
- Existing ANKA UAV Systems and Ground Control Station and Data Link Compatibility
- Ice Protection System (optional)
- Flexibility to operate with the both of SATCOM & LOS (optional)

USEFUL LOAD OPTIONS

IMAGE INTELLIGENCE USEFUL LOADS
• CAMERA with EO/IR/Laser Marker/Laser Range Finder
• SAR/GMTI-ISAR
• Wide Area Surveillance Camera

SIGNAL INTELLIGENCE (SIGINT) USEFUL LOADS
• COMINT / DF
• ESM / ELINT

MARITIME PATROL USEFUL LOADS
• SAR/GMTI-ISAR
• Automatic Identification System
• Sonobuoy Pod
• MAD Boom

COMMUNICATION USEFUL LOADS
• Satellite Communications (SATCOM)
• Personnel Locating System (PLS)
• V/UHF Radio Relay
• Communication Service Pod

WEAPON OPTIONS

• 3 weapon stations per wing with 500 kg, 300 kg and 150 kg capacities respectively

• TEBER-81 (Laser Guided Mk-81)
• TEBER-82 (Laser Guided Mk-82)
• L-UMTAS
• MAM-L
• Cirit
• MAM-C
• HGK-3 (Uses Mk-82 bomb) (Precision Guidance Kit)
• KGK-82 (Gliding Guidance Kit)
• Miniature Bomb (SDB equivalent)

https://www.tai.com.tr/urun/aksungur

 

[UzaySan]

AKSUNGUR - UAV with High Load Capacity
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ANKA-AKSUNGUR has two double turbocharged PD-170 engines, which allow long-duration operations at up to 40000 ft.

TECHNICIAL SPECIFICATIONS

Motor Type: PD-170 Dual Turbo-charged Diesel
Engine Power: 2x170 HP (Sea Level, ISA)
Wingspan: 24 m
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 3300 kg

Attack / Maritime Patrol Mission: 12 hours at 25000 ft with 750 kg external load
Signal Intelligence Duty: 24 hours at 35000 ft with 150 kg useful load

SYSTEM FEATURES

- Full autonomous operation
- Automatic flight control system with double backup
- Dual redundant automatic take-off and landing system
- Dual redundant electric power generation system
- Dual redundant encrypted data link
- DO-178B compatible software
- DO-254 compatible hardware
- Existing ANKA UAV Systems and Ground Control Station and Data Link Compatibility
- Ice Protection System (optional)
- Flexibility to operate with the both of SATCOM & LOS (optional)

USEFUL LOAD OPTIONS

IMAGE INTELLIGENCE USEFUL LOADS
• CAMERA with EO/IR/Laser Marker/Laser Range Finder
• SAR/GMTI-ISAR
• Wide Area Surveillance Camera

SIGNAL INTELLIGENCE (SIGINT) USEFUL LOADS
• COMINT / DF
• ESM / ELINT

MARITIME PATROL USEFUL LOADS
• SAR/GMTI-ISAR
• Automatic Identification System
• Sonobuoy Pod
• MAD Boom

COMMUNICATION USEFUL LOADS
• Satellite Communications (SATCOM)
• Personnel Locating System (PLS)
• V/UHF Radio Relay
• Communication Service Pod

WEAPON OPTIONS

• 3 weapon stations per wing with 500 kg, 300 kg and 150 kg capacities respectively

• TEBER-81 (Laser Guided Mk-81)
• TEBER-82 (Laser Guided Mk-82)
• L-UMTAS
• MAM-L
• Cirit
• MAM-C
• HGK-3 (Uses Mk-82 bomb) (Precision Guidance Kit)
• KGK-82 (Gliding Guidance Kit)
• Miniature Bomb (SDB equivalent)

https://www.tai.com.tr/urun/aksungur

Aksungur also can carry SOM Cruise missile under main body instead of wings.