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Ajmer priests not to help Pakistanis in prayers.

People don't know about the Dargah culture. You do need Khadim to assist you. To offer fateh you have to do several things.

Buy a Phoolon waali chaa-der then a Khadim will note down your name and take you to the grave where you put that chaa-der on grave and then offer fateha. Without Khadim, you are not allowed to go near to the Grave.

Just visit Data Darbar to experience the Darbar culture
 
Ajmer priests not to help Pakistanis in prayers.
IANS | May 6, 2013, 08.56 PM IST


Several groups of priests have decided to join the increasing protests against the killing of Sarabjit in Pakistan.

JAIPUR: Khadims (priests) at the dargah (shrine) of Khawaja Moinuddin Chishti in Ajmer have decided not to assist Pakistani pilgrims in offering prayers at the shrine.

Several groups of khadims have decided to join the increasing protests against the killing of Sarabjit.

About 640 pilgrims from Pakistan will be visiting Rajasthan's Ajmer town later this week.

The pilgrims are expected to arrive in Ajmer May 12 to participate in the 801st Urs of Khawaja Moinuddin Chishti.

Ahead of the Pakistanis' visit, various organisations -- including the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, Shiv Sena and the BJP -- have been staging demonstrations in Ajmer, some 150 km from Jaipur.

The Pakistani delegation is likely to stay here for a week.

"We have decided not to assist any of the Pakistani pilgrims in offering prayers at the shrine. Prayers are not possible without khadims. We demand that the Indian government does not provide visas to any of the pilgrims," said a khadim.

He added that the visit could be a conspiracy by the Pakistani government to increase communal disharmony in India.

Another khadim, Natik Chisty, said the anger is brewing over Sarabjit's death, so visa should not be granted to Pak pilgrims.

The Shiv Sena staged a protest May 2 at the Ajmer district headquarters, demanding withdrawal of visas to the Pakistani group coming to Ajmer.

The Yuva Jat Mahasabha has also threatened to show black flags to Pakistani citizens in Ajmer.

The Urs is the annual event commemorating the death anniversary of Sufi Saint Khawaja Moinuddin Chishti at the dargah (shrine built over the grave). The Urs features night-long singing of qawwalis, and is held over 15 days. This time, the Urs will be held May 7 to May 22.

About five lakh devotees from different parts of the world participate in this event. This year, it is estimated that over seven lakh people will visit the city for the Urs.

The spiritual head of the 13th sanctuary shrine of Khawaja Moinuddin Chishti, Diwan Sayed Zainual Adebdin Ali Khan, had condemned the brutal attack that led to the death of Sarabjit Singh in a Lahore hospital, and said such an attack went against the tenets of Islam.

Source:IANS,TOI etc.





This is what poor Indian Muslims have been reduced to by the Hindu Fundamentalist. The poor guys have to make such stupid A$$ statements to prove their loyalty as Indians. This is Secularism Hypocrisy at its Worst.


To me this says very little about the poor Joker making this statement but more about the kind of society India has become under the Hindu Fundamentalist Goons ( BJP, VHP and Shiv Sena included) who are ready to grab anybody who is not openly cursing Pakistanis, even those Pakistanis who had nothing to do with Sarajit's death.



Sarabjit was a Damn Terrorist who deserved to die like a Dog because he was responsible for the cold blooded murder of 14 innocent Pakistani Civilians, sent by Indian RAW terrorist organization, which makes India a terrorist country by default.
 
People don't know about the Dargah culture. You do need Khadim to assist you. To offer fateh you have to do several things.

Buy a Phoolon waali chaa-der then a Khadim will note down your name and take you to the grave where you put that chaa-der on grave and then offer fateha. Without Khadim, you are not allowed to go near to the Grave.

Just visit Data Darbar to experience the Darbar culture

I guess many know it. Was avoiding because then it will descend ito right and wrong muslim thread. Sure if somebody does not want to go, please dont. Calling then not true muslim is a few steps away from planting bomb there.
I am sure you know I am not exaggerating the possible and avoidable feud.
 
This is what poor Indian Muslims have been reduced to by the Hindu Fundamentalist. The poor guys have to make such stupid A$$ statements to prove their loyalty as Indians. This is Secularism Hypocrisy at its Worst.

To me this says very little about the poor Joker making this statement but more about the kind of society India has become under the Hindu Fundamentalist Goons ( BJP, VHP and Shiv Sena included) who are ready to grab anybody who is not openly cursing Pakistanis, even those Pakistanis who had nothing to do with Sarajit's death.


Do you know in Ajmer Rajasthan.. Shiv shena ,VHP is nothing like thing??

Or just showing your over knowledge .. Sir?
As I told in previous post , today I saw three Pakistani s offer chaddar and prayers in dargah & khadim help them.
Don`t know which khadim gives that fatwa??
 
There is no concept of priests in Islam.
 
Ajmer priests not to help Pakistanis in prayers.
IANS | May 6, 2013, 08.56 PM IST


Several groups of priests have decided to join the increasing protests against the killing of Sarabjit in Pakistan.

JAIPUR: Khadims (priests) at the dargah (shrine) of Khawaja Moinuddin Chishti in Ajmer have decided not to assist Pakistani pilgrims in offering prayers at the shrine.

Several groups of khadims have decided to join the increasing protests against the killing of Sarabjit.

About 640 pilgrims from Pakistan will be visiting Rajasthan's Ajmer town later this week.

The pilgrims are expected to arrive in Ajmer May 12 to participate in the 801st Urs of Khawaja Moinuddin Chishti.

Ahead of the Pakistanis' visit, various organisations -- including the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, Shiv Sena and the BJP -- have been staging demonstrations in Ajmer, some 150 km from Jaipur.

The Pakistani delegation is likely to stay here for a week.

"We have decided not to assist any of the Pakistani pilgrims in offering prayers at the shrine. Prayers are not possible without khadims. We demand that the Indian government does not provide visas to any of the pilgrims," said a khadim.

He added that the visit could be a conspiracy by the Pakistani government to increase communal disharmony in India.

Another khadim, Natik Chisty, said the anger is brewing over Sarabjit's death, so visa should not be granted to Pak pilgrims.

The Shiv Sena staged a protest May 2 at the Ajmer district headquarters, demanding withdrawal of visas to the Pakistani group coming to Ajmer.

The Yuva Jat Mahasabha has also threatened to show black flags to Pakistani citizens in Ajmer.

The Urs is the annual event commemorating the death anniversary of Sufi Saint Khawaja Moinuddin Chishti at the dargah (shrine built over the grave). The Urs features night-long singing of qawwalis, and is held over 15 days. This time, the Urs will be held May 7 to May 22.

About five lakh devotees from different parts of the world participate in this event. This year, it is estimated that over seven lakh people will visit the city for the Urs.

The spiritual head of the 13th sanctuary shrine of Khawaja Moinuddin Chishti, Diwan Sayed Zainual Adebdin Ali Khan, had condemned the brutal attack that led to the death of Sarabjit Singh in a Lahore hospital, and said such an attack went against the tenets of Islam.

Source:IANS,TOI etc.

This is unwanted not needed we need to find ways to improve relations. Religious and matter of sports should be kept outside politics. There seems to be disturbing tend recently, hope this stops soon. Hate breads more hate. A good behavior will result in better response. There are some irresponsible people who are spreading hate.
 
There are no Pakistani's who are not terrorist supporting or at the very least terrorist sympathizing.




How ignorant can you be. Sarabjit was a terrorist himself, sent by RAW ( as per the report of your own indian media) responsible for the death of 14 innocent Pakistani civilians.

That makes India a terrorist State, Genius and by your own logic that makes you a terrorist or at least a terrorist sympathizer.

Now stop TROLLING and SHOO..........
 
There are no Pakistani's who are not terrorist supporting or at the very least terrorist sympathizing.

Likewise there are no indians who are not shiv sena, rss worshiping, or at the very least rape sympathizing.
 
There are no Pakistani's who are not terrorist supporting or at the very least terrorist sympathizing.

so by joining a PAKISTANI defence forum in which majority of the members of Pakistanis or of Pakistani descent --- you are sharing views and interacting with terrorist supporters and/or sympathizers

speaks volumes about you and your level of dignity (lack thereof)
 
so by joining a PAKISTANI defence forum in which majority of the members of Pakistanis or of Pakistani descent --- you are sharing views and interacting with terrorist supporters and/or sympathizers

speaks volumes about you and your level of dignity (lack thereof)

Dignity!

By someone who compared his own national cricketer to Ajmal Kasab!

Wonders never cease in this world! ;)

Anyway, we have a buffer between the lawless areas and lawless people. It is called Pakistan. ;)


It gets more interesting when even random Afghans and Arabs start obsessing with us. ;)

Punjabion or Sindhion ka kuchh had tak samajh aata hai, when distant and strange Turis, Afridis, Arains... :crazy: also start obsessions, it becomes funny but quite weird.

We know or care nothing about these tribals.
 

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