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Anybody have any idea what the Sarab-1 was ??.. according to Wikipedia it was a botched attempt by Pakistan to design an A2A missile based on the magic.
 
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Anybody have any idea what the Sarab-1 was ??.. according to Wikipedia it was a botched attempt by Pakistan to design an A2A missile based on the magic.

no i dont think so,
perhaps it is being confused with Saber II project whoom many sources claim to be a cancled project and the one from which JF17 was born,,
not that JF have any technical research related to that cancled project but after cancelation due to lack of fund PAF latter chosed to go for a new project that produced JF17:
the following is a paragraph from wikipedia, i hope it wil give you some insight!
After a successful deal with China's Chengdu Aircraft Industry Corporation (CAC) in the early 1980s resulting in the Chengdu F-7M Airguard, the United Kingdom offered a further upgrade to improve the performance of the F-7M by adopting either General Electric F404 or Pratt & Whitney PW1120 turbofan engines. The radar options would include the Red Fox, a repackaged version of the Blue Fox radar used on Sea Harrier FRS Mk 1, and the Emerson AN/APG-69. Although radar tests were successful, the upgrade was rejected before any engine tests because both the radar and engine cost more than a new J-7 (2 million 1984 United States Dollars). The name Super-7, however, was to be used again for later projects.

The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) started looking for a new fighter to replace their large fleet of Shenyang F-6 in the late 1980s.[14] Despite upgrades such as ability to fire the AIM-9 Sidewinder and Martin Baker ejection seats, the F-6 fighters were becoming obsolete and their ageing airframes were approaching the end of their service lives. The PAF initiated Project Sabre II, a programme to re-design the Chengdu F-7 airframe with more modern avionics from the United States.

In January 1987, a contract was awarded to Grumman Aerospace of Bethpage, New York, to study and define the Sabre II concept with cooperation from CAC and PAF specialists. The study was completed after seven months and concluded that the project was a financial risk due to very high costs and other options were much more cost-effective, despite the prospects of producing Sabre II in Pakistan and giving the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex more experience and technical knowledge.[14]

Under Project Sabre II, considered a replacement of the abandoned Super-7 project by the Chinese, the F-7 airframe was redesigned with air intakes on the sides of the fuselage replacing the nose intake. Located behind and below the cockpit, the side-mounted intakes were angled for improved airflow during high angle of attack. The F-7 nose intake was replaced by a solid nose radome, planned to house the General Electric AN/APG-67 radar used on the F-20 Tigershark. An extra hardpoint was added under each wing, inboard of the hardpoints already present, for carrying a pair of AIM-9L air-to-air missiles. The resulting aircraft looked much like the Guizhou JL-9 (or FTC-2000) jet trainer / fighter aircraft.

Project Sabre II was terminated in 1989, due to the breaking of relations between the U.S. and China after the Tiananmen Square protest. The PAF decided on a much less expensive solution for replacement of the F-6, the Chengdu F-7P Skybolt, an upgraded version of the F-7M Airguard. The F-7P fleet was to be supported by a fleet of over 100 advanced F-16 Fighting Falcons from the United States, 40 of which had been delivered during the 1980s.


regards!
 
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probable that it is the case.. I do however concretely remember the director of AWC in 99 telling me that they were working on an A2A missile. I suppose nothing came of it.
 
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probable that it is the case.. I do however concretely remember the director of AWC in 99 telling me that they were working on an A2A missile. I suppose nothing came of it.

it is heared that we are waiting some A2A missiles under licienced production i guess,
however H2 and H4 are a sure case but they are air to ground, penetration bombs,,,

regards!
 
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are you talking about twin seater or twin engine bro???
well for twin seater there are some F7 and F16 twin seat versions as far as i know!
also JF17 may see a twin seat version and it was stated by senior officials of PAF. JF17 twin seat version may caome handy for more dedicated roles such as ground air support or even in marine time role!
there is nothing like a NO to twin seat planes, but yes, for twin engine planes it is a NO by PAF for atleast another 10 years!!
i hope this helped you!!

regards!
 
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AMK Lodhi ( Arshad Muhammad Kamran Lodhi ) he retired in 59 later he joined PIA.

ABDUL MAJEED KHAN Lodhi. Great friend of Air Marshal Jamal Ahmad Khan. Died in January of 2000 (if I recall correctly, maybe 2001) and is buried in Cranbury, NJ.
 
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Salam everyone,
This is Maliha , i want to knw that what are the requirements and opportunities for females in PAF and whats the criteria. can anyone help me in this regard PLZ
 
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Its could mean either of the 2 words, Happy Or Homosexual. In other words, "Gay" :rofl:
 
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Its could mean either of the 2 words, Happy Or Homosexual. In other words, "Gay" :rofl:

Oh you think he meant "faggot"???

In that case, may I humbly suggest to poster "AliFarooq" who hopes to be an officer in the Pakistan Air Force that the first time he encounters a difficulty, calling the other guy a homosexual, is perhaps not appropriate....

Perhaps AliFarooq may consider a different approach to successfully engage and pass the ISSB process......one that shows persistence, determination, patience, and above all consideration for the other guy's position. In fact, this could be a selling point for him, since he can make the case that "despite all the hurdles put in his way, here he is trying to make a successful entrance into the AF, through the ISSB - i.e. I took my lumps, but here I am still determined to join"

What do you think?:cheers:
 
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Salam everyone,
This is Maliha , i want to knw that what are the requirements and opportunities for females in PAF and whats the criteria. can anyone help me in this regard PLZ


Yeah in all fields except GD(P)...
 
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