Air collision at South China Sea 2001, pictures!

[below_freezing]

ok,so now I am going to let you understand .Firstly,the gaybit form the great US of america said the pilot was foolishness and possibly incompetence based on his reply to another member here So, i have drag an example of another incident that show the patriotism of the pilot serve to his own country and this Chinese pilot was tried to protect his own motherland being invade by an american spy plane.Lastly,i mean this to the gaybit for his ignorant and foolishness

Forget it brother. We're civilized people that don't understand the language of apes. Lets not argue with them, because apes in their cage will inevitable throw sh*t.

 

[gambit]

If you want to know what actions US warships put out, there's a plane called Iran Air 655 that lies underwater because of those actions. You might also know the USS Impeccable (ring any bells?).

The bell that should have rung is the one that showed you the complete inapplicability of this 'example'. The situations are completely different.

What did you expect Wang Wei to do? Sit back and continue to flash his email card while the US spyplane continued its spying mission of Chinese territory?

Yes. He had no authorization from higher leadership.

As a pilot yourself I thought you would understand Wang Wei's situation.

Never claimed to be.

As US commanders later said, the J-8 was more maneuverable than the EP-3, so Wang Wei knew he had full control of the situation. Why did he go down? This "foolishness" ended when a wing of the EP-3 crushed Wang Wei's canopy and eventually cut his J-8 in half. Did you even read both sides of the argument?

The question is why did Wang Wei collided with the much larger aircraft? The ridiculous defense/argument is that he was trying to 'defend' China. Defend against what threat? And if there was a legitimate cause for 'defense', then why a collision? Why not a weapons shot? But since he was not authorized 'weapons free', that made his flying so close to the much larger aircraft foolish and possibly incompetent because he did not know of the wake turbulence larger aircrafts can create.

A pilot's job is to defend his country's security at all costs. Wang Wei knew the risks and yet the EP-3 was successfully brought down. As proven in a radio transcript, the other J-8 pilot asked permission to shoot down the EP-3, was denied, and forced the EP-3 from escaping into international airspace and forced it to land. A pilot that stands idly by while the enemy spied on his country is what is truly defined as a "fool".

The American aircraft was already outside of China's territorial airspace.

By your definition of "foolishness", then most of US pilots lost in the Gulf Wars (especially the Package Q strike) were "fools". And how about Scott O' Grady, that pilot who virtually ignored all missile warnings and was downed by a SA-6? Why is the US honoring "fools" as heroes?

Ridiculous...The Gulf Wars were legitimate combat actions. Wang Wei's flying were under peace time between two powers.

Casualties are a part of conflict. Accept that.

And there are foolish pilots. Accept that.

 

[pluto]

Ridiculous...The Gulf Wars were legitimate combat actions.

i think you were saying "The Gulf Wars were legitimate combat actions. Ridiculous..."
so power speaks. U.S says it's legitimate, then it is.

like i said in another thread, China needs more than 5 carriers out of there, and next time U.S dare send their planes/craps, we finish them.
do not blah, blah, saying U.S are powerful, see below.
they will nuke us, we nuke them.
they will nuke Russia too, Russia nuke them.
U.S&RUssia will nuke Europe
Europe nuke all the other countries.
end of the world.

 

[gambit]

i think you were saying "The Gulf Wars were legitimate combat actions. Ridiculous..."
so power speaks. U.S says it's legitimate, then it is.

There were no doubts on what the US was there for, which was to conduct combat operations. If you wish to discuss the legitimacy of the Gulf Wars themselves, resurrect a previous discussion to do so. But the recon flight was during peacetime and outside of China's territorial airspace, therefore that flight was legitimate. Guess it is too difficult for you to grasp the differences.

 

[huzihaidao12]

This is the logic of the United States, because I am strong, so I have done is right, you do not right. You want to talk about truth and the Americans, the Americans to discuss the strength and you. Just when you discuss the strength and the Americans , Americans will begin to reason and you.

In the Supreme People's Committee 12 September 1953, Mao said: The U.S. imperialists are arrogant, those places as long as can unreasonable ,certainly US to be unreasonable, if the Americans are beginning to speak some truth, because are forced to the last .

We know enough about it. Although do not know why, it seems, American attitudes, American Vietnamese also accepted very quickly, what is this? Chinese proverb "a fox to show off its own power and prestige because the tiger in the back?" However, regardless of Americans or American Vietnamese, Chinese people are not surprised for your logic. Americans have to pay the price in the world, because this logic, but it seems that China will get a chance to whipped in the face of Americans with China's own hand, if the U.S to maintain this logic to the world.


Give you a word, gambit ,to live good lives, do not die. In any case the dead can not see anything.

 

[cn_habs]

Comrade gambit sounds like the voice of America who's always right fighting for democracy all over the world.

 

[rcrmj]

Wang wei died for his country regardless he is competent or not, he was a PLAAF pilot end of the story`! thats why he is regarded as chinese hero, like all those scare-easy u.s soldiers died in WWII, Korean war, and Vietnam war```and also includes those incompetent indian soldiers died in sino-indu war in 1962, they were all regared as 'national' heros```!

p.s again``'gaybit' seeking PDF as his failed real life remedy`!

 

[JayAtl]

There were no doubts on what the US was there for, which was to conduct combat operations. If you wish to discuss the legitimacy of the Gulf Wars themselves, resurrect a previous discussion to do so. But the recon flight was during peacetime and outside of China's territorial airspace, therefore that flight was legitimate. Guess it is too difficult for you to grasp the differences.

you are trying to explain it logically to a country/men that was recently busted using Top Gun movie clips to pass it as its supposed great air force.

 

[rcrmj]

you are trying to explain it logically to a country/men that was recently busted using Top Gun movie clips to pass it as its supposed great air force.

post reported, if u r incapable to understand the situation, dont degrade urself to troll`

 

[S10]

you are trying to explain it logically to a country/men that was recently busted using Top Gun movie clips to pass it as its supposed great air force.

You're right, China can never compete with these masterpieces:

 

[rcrmj]

You're right, China can never compete with these masterpieces:

dont let that stupid troll to ruin this thread`lets not bringing bollywood into this

 

[below_freezing]

Anglo racists and their slaves could never understand the concept of heroism. Chinese people worship honor, while Anglos and their slaves worship strength. For the honor of being a house slave instead of a mere field slave, they will sell anything.

 

[gambit]

you are trying to explain it logically to a country/men that was recently busted using Top Gun movie clips to pass it as its supposed great air force.

Ain't that a gas.

 

[gambit]

Wang wei died for his country regardless he is competent or not, he was a PLAAF pilot end of the story`! thats why he is regarded as chinese hero, like all those scare-easy u.s soldiers died in WWII, Korean war, and Vietnam war```and also includes those incompetent indian soldiers died in sino-indu war in 1962, they were all regared as 'national' heros```!

p.s again``'gaybit' seeking PDF as his failed real life remedy`!

Did anyone said he died for any other country? The issue here is why did Wang Wei flew the way he did. Certainly it was not because the US and China was at war, because if that was the case, he would have been authorized 'weapons free' and there would be no collision. Even the most blindered Chinese patriots here could see that logic. Peace does not mean warm fuzzy-wuzzy feelings between the countries, at its most basic, it simply mean the relationship between the countries is not of an 'armed conflict' state, so since there was peace between US and China, Wang Wei was NOT authorized for 'weapons free' flying. Anything less than 'weapons free' flying, any kind of flying Wang Wei does reflects upon himself and his air force.

Sorry, buddy...But a collision between an agile jet fighter and a lumbering four-engine prop job in a non-controlled airspace hardly made the jet fighter pilot 'heroic' in the international aviation community.

 

[cn_habs]

Did anyone said he died for any other country? The issue here is why did Wang Wei flew the way he did. Certainly it was not because the US and China was at war, because if that was the case, he would have been authorized 'weapons free' and there would be no collision. Even the most blindered Chinese patriots here could see that logic. Peace does not mean warm fuzzy-wuzzy feelings between the countries, at its most basic, it simply mean the relationship between the countries is not of an 'armed conflict' state, so since there was peace between US and China, Wang Wei was NOT authorized for 'weapons free' flying. Anything less than 'weapons free' flying, any kind of flying Wang Wei does reflects upon himself and his air force.

Sorry, buddy...But a collision between an agile jet fighter and a lumbering four-engine prop job in a non-controlled airspace hardly made the jet fighter pilot 'heroic' in the international aviation community.

What a typical wannabe armchair general who thinks he knows classified information.

At least he was a top pilot in the PLAAF. What have you done with your life gambit? Are you even fit mentally and physically enough to ever being considered for such a position?