AIP vs nuclear submarines

[Echo_419]

A navy must have both i guess

 

[SipahSalar]

AIP if you want to fight ships. Nuclear if you want second strike. AIP diesel submarines are excruciatingly hard to detect.

 

[The SC]

AIP if you want to fight ships. Nuclear if you want second strike. AIP diesel submarines are excruciatingly hard to detect.

Better yet the new Chinese Subs being built for Pakistan have AIP an all electrical propulsion system that will make them double excruciatingly hard to detect.
Still one should not compare with nuclear subs, they are a class of their own.

 

[500]

Better yet the new Chinese Subs being built for Pakistan have AIP an all electrical propulsion system that will make them double excruciatingly hard to detect.

Stop talking crap. Chinese subs use diesel and Stirling engines.

Why germany dont build nuke subs they have nuke tech

Two reasons:
1) Political.
2) In shallow waters of Baltic sea small diesel subs are better than huge nuclear.

 

[Penguin]

Stop talking crap. Chinese subs use diesel and Stirling engines.


Two reasons:
1) Political.
2) In shallow waters of Baltic sea small diesel subs are better than huge nuclear.

Except German subs also operate in the NOrth Sea and Atlantic...

 

[500]

Except German subs also operate in the NOrth Sea and Atlantic...

Baltic is their highest priority. Thats why for decades they operated small 206 type submarines while exporting ocean going 209s.

 

[The SC]

Stop talking crap. Chinese subs use diesel and Stirling engines.


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Not the new class Qing being built, they have Chinese AIP Stirling engines and an all electric propulsion system, no diesel engines.

 

[500]

Not the new class Qing being built, they have Chinese AIP Stirling engines and an all electric propulsion system,

Stirling are electric?

no diesel engines.

 

[The SC]

Stirling are electric?

Electric engines (propulsion system), Stirling is an AIP (Air independent propulsion) systems that helps recharge the batteries while submerged.
It is Unique and might be beyond your imagination. Do some search and try to find out...

 

[IND151]

When it comes to enduracne and missile carrying capacity SSNs/ SSGNs/ SSBNs dwarf AIP subs.




AIP vs nuclear submarines

 

[500]

Electric engines (propulsion system), Stirling is an AIP (Air independent propulsion) systems that helps recharge the batteries while submerged.

But Stirling is not electric. In makes noise and produces heat and gasses.

Only Germans have all electric AIP.

It is Unique and might be beyond your imagination.

Nothing unique about it. First Stirling was used by Sweden then by Japan. Now Japan is abandoning Stirling in favor of Li-ion batteries.

And of course it still has diesel engines for surface and Snorkel operations and charging batteries.

 

[Penguin]

Baltic is their highest priority. Thats why for decades they operated small 206 type submarines while exporting ocean going 209s.

They soldiered on with 206s for decades because the replacement 211 project got cancelled (whilc e.g. Norway got the 210s). The 211 was designed with wider area ops in mind, including North Sea. From there on, it was development of 212A.

 

[kaku1]

Electric engines (propulsion system), Stirling is an AIP (Air independent propulsion) systems that helps recharge the batteries while submerged.
It is Unique and might be beyond your imagination. Do some search and try to find out...

How it charge battery? Through solar panels?

 

[500]

They soldiered on with 206s for decades because the replacement 211 project got cancelled (whilc e.g. Norway got the 210s). The 211 was designed with wider area ops in mind, including North Sea. From there on, it was development of 212A.

They could get 209 anytime. But they did not.

 

[The SC]

But Stirling is not electric. In makes noise and produces heat and gasses.

Only Germans have all electric AIP.


Nothing unique about it. First Stirling was used by Sweden then by Japan. Now Japan is abandoning Stirling in favor of Li-ion batteries.

And of course it still has diesel engines for surface and Snorkel operations and charging batteries.

Swedish submarines are some of the finest very low noise subs out there. But this Stirling AIP system is all Chinese and almost noiseless, combined with an all electric propulsion engine(s).