Ahmedi community linked literature seized, printing press sealed

[Hrk19]

I thought so mate he sounds like those several bengali vigilantes doing their sharia petrol on this forum .. i am seeing more and more of these every day

you know,you especially always i find you in threads regarding islam
you do know that the thing you are taking so lightly is a serious problem
there is no space for compromise in matters related to islam
i have seen when people are lenient on people like you regarding religion,its why you are this way
well,im always gonna defend islam come what may
i have Allah with me

 

[Mamluk]

Sahih Muslim verse 34:

It is narrated on the authority of 'Abbas b. 'Abdul-Muttalib that he heard the Messenger of Allah saying:

He has found the taste of faith (iman) who is content with Allah as his Lord, with Islam as his religion (code of life) and with Muhammad (pbuh) as his Prophet.

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@Hrk19 So you know Hadith huh?

@waz @Aether please get rid of this hindutva bot.

 

[The Sandman]

(I personally do not agree with Ahmadiyya views ... My only point is that I am no one to decide who is a Muslim or who is not) ...

Well than lets end this discussion here by saying this that i agree with you i have no right to declare someone Muslim or non Muslim all i will say is that if we go by Quran and Prophet Muhammad's teaching than there will be no Prophet after him.
"Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Apostle of God, and the Seal of the Prophets: and God has full knowledge of all things. (Quran, 33:40)"

Words of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)
"In My Ummah (Islamic Nation), there shall be born Thirty Grand Liars (Dajjals), each of whom will claim to be a prophet, But I am the Last Prophet; there is No Prophet after Me. (Abu Dawood Vol 2 p. 228; Tirmidhi Vol 2 p.45)"

"Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, 'The Israelis used to be ruled and guided by prophets: Whenever a prophet died, another would take over his place. There will be no prophet after me, but there will be Caliphs who will increase in number.' The people asked, 'O Allah's Apostle! What do you order us (to do)?' He said, 'Obey the one who will be given the pledge of allegiance first. Fulfil their (i.e. the Caliphs) rights, for Allah will ask them about (any shortcoming) in ruling those Allah has put under their guardianship.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (peace be upon him) and his Companions, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 661)"
You were right i need to do more research on this.

 

[Hrk19]

Wrong!
Modifukking maggot - see my next post for verse number 34.

may Allah punish you severely you twisted man
if the mods want i will give them my home address and my id card

 

[Valar Dohaeris]

There is no "very basic definition of Islam" agreed upon by all sects .... This was pointed out by the honourable Supreme Court of Pakistan in 1953/54 ... Mullahs belonging to different sects couldn't agree upon any definition of Islam (accepted by all) when the court asked them to define "Muslim" .... For details see "Munir's Report"

Don't you think that we should not be the ones deciding who is a Muslim or who is not ? That authority/judgement lies with Allah alone .. He doesn't need our "opinion" in matters regarding him ....

And it was PM Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto who amended the Constitution in 1974 and declared Ahmedis as non Muslims as last desperate bid to buy off the Mullahs who were agitating against him and wanted to overthrow his government (with US backing) .... It was a political move ... Played by a seasoned politician for personal gains ... It was never about religion ..

Would you like to post the complete ruling of SCP about definition of Muslim ?
And it is not about judging faith of others, it is about protecting your own religious identity. Because if Qadyanis are Muslim, than the rest are not.
And in your sentence you admitted that Bhutto did this under the pressure of religious scholars, so how not this is a religious move ? It was a religious move done by a politician.

 

[hussain0216]

dont care


minorities are under threat across the world

Modi in india, Trump in the U.S, right wing parties in Europe


why should Pakistan be some bastion of minority rights?

 

[Mamluk]

may Allah punish you severely you twisted man
if the mods want i will give them my home address and my id card

@pak-marine see how easily this modifukker blew his cover!
He misquoted a verse of Hadith and won't even fight back. So much for being knowledgable about Islam!

 

[Hrk19]

This is a horrible viewpoint. who cares if they want to preach their religion, let them do so in peace.

if people in the west were openly saying the Quran is full of lies and such you wouldn't like it, likewise, you should be open minded and let these people do as they wish. Its a persons own choice if they decide to listen.

no,non muslims are another story,apostates should not under any circumstances be tolerated

 

[Well.wisher]

Clearly an indian modifukker, and a dumb one at that!

You pretend you know about Islam. So tell me, which Hadith is that from?

It's an authentic hadith from prophet saww in his bukhari sharif . It's chain are sahih . Probably from hazrat abu saeed r.a .
And it's true hadith , we as muslims should stand against every wrong that happens in name of islam .

No I m not pretending .. my God , this is such a shame ! Islam ka Nam lena gunah ban gya ab yahan .

The butthurt in this thread was unimaginable and unexpected , no where did I support killing or torturing of ahmadis. All I said was their literature is false and must not be taught to our children . And how I quote examples of ungrateful ahmadis that has been bashing pakistan, while we all muslims are killed but we no complain . And people acting like zombies .

 

[Trango Towers]

They should go to india if they feel unsafe here .
No we aren't going to accept their

They should go to india if they feel unsafe here .
No we aren't going to accept their religion and literature .

 

[M. Sarmad]

Well than lets end this discussion here by saying this that i agree with you i have no right to declare someone Muslim or non Muslim all i will say is that if we go by Quran and Prophet Muhammad's teaching than there will be no Prophet after him.
"Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Apostle of God, and the Seal of the Prophets: and God has full knowledge of all things. (Quran, 33:40)"

Words of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)
"In My Ummah (Islamic Nation), there shall be born Thirty Grand Liars (Dajjals), each of whom will claim to be a prophet, But I am the Last Prophet; there is No Prophet after Me. (Abu Dawood Vol 2 p. 228; Tirmidhi Vol 2 p.45)"

"Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, 'The Israelis used to be ruled and guided by prophets: Whenever a prophet died, another would take over his place. There will be no prophet after me, but there will be Caliphs who will increase in number.' The people asked, 'O Allah's Apostle! What do you order us (to do)?' He said, 'Obey the one who will be given the pledge of allegiance first. Fulfil their (i.e. the Caliphs) rights, for Allah will ask them about (any shortcoming) in ruling those Allah has put under their guardianship.' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (peace be upon him) and his Companions, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 661)"
You were right i need to do more research on this.

Please read this thread through (and contribute also) when you have time :

https://defence.pk/threads/islamic-history-archaeology.294333/

 

[Hrk19]

@pak-marine see how easily this modifukker blew his cover!

i said it then and i will say it again,if the mods want i will show them my address in pakistan and my id card,then can confirm with nadra if they want

 

[The Sandman]

minorities are under threat across the world

That's really weird logic if someone is jumping in a well will you do the same? and btw in the western world minorities are in a faaaaar more better position than Pak/Ind.
@Kaptaan

 

[hussain0216]

ahmedis are a minority in Pakistan they should be aware of the consequences of pissing off the majority

 

[Valar Dohaeris]

It actually is "the Seal of the Prophets"

They just interpret this verse differently. And they are not the only ones who have interpreted this verse in this way. Do some research brother

Allah knows the best.

Whats is the difference between Seal of the prophet and being the last prophet ?