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We are pretty much discussing by what means it can be stopped.
And what is the solution?
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We are pretty much discussing by what means it can be stopped.
And what is the solution?
Parliament must repeal the ordinance which permits punishment to Ahmedis for calling themselves muslims.
Blackblood seems like perfect case of brainwashed creation of Zia's time, first of the so called Ahmadi Links you are providing are a separate Ahmadi group, I just saw on Wikipedia that they are the Lahore Ahmadiyya group which is separate from the main body, so them calling others kaffir and what not cannot be claimed to be the belief of all.
As for the other images you are posting and this urdu newspapers and books, do you know what kind of garbage is made up in these. Some are altered to suit the likings of these Islamic groups, I want proof from credible sources, not some clippings from sites which are ckearly run by Islamic parties and we all know they are biased in all their views.
Someone told me to only provide links to neutral sites, you should do the same. As for what they say or not, it should not matter to you, if a so called cleric in Saudi Arabia can ask for breast feeding in work places, it does not mean that we have to follow it.
Please go enjoy some milk and then come back with credible links and not those religious parties use to so read sectarian violence, I have read some of the most despicable things against other sects written in these papers.
We are discussing rights not religious belief of different groups.
Parliament must repeal the ordinance which permits punishment to Ahmedis for calling themselves muslims.
Parliament must repeal the ordinance which permits punishment to Ahmedis for calling themselves muslims.
Please quote the articles or the entire ordinance which calls for Punishments so that we can discuss further.
3.
Addition of new sections 298B and 298C, Act XLV of 1860.
In the Pakistan Penal Code (Act XLV of 1860), in Chapter XV, after section 298A, the following new sections shall be added, namely:
“298B. Misuse of epithets, descriptions and titles, etc., reserved for certain holy personages or places.
(1)
Any person of the Quadiani group or the Lahori group (who call themselves ‘Ahmadis’ or by any other name) who by words, either spoken or written, or by visible representation;
d)refers to, or names, or calls, his place of worship as ‘Masjid’;
shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to three years and shall also be liable to fine.(2)
Any person of the Quadiani group or Lahori group (who call themselves Ahmadis or by any other name) who by words, either spoken or written, or by visible representation, refers to the mode or form of call to prayers followed by his faith as ‘Azan’ or recites Azan as used by the Muslims, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to three years, and shall also be liable to fine.
(3)298
C. Person of Quadiani group etc., calling himself a Muslim or preaching or propagating his faith.Any person of the Quadiani group or the Lahori group (who call themselves ‘Ahmadis’ or by any other name), who, directly or indirectly, poses himself as Muslim, or calls, or refers to, his faith as Islam, or preaches or propagates his faith, or invites others to accept his faith, by words, either spoken or written, or by visible representations, or in any manner whatsoever outrages the religious feelings of Muslims, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to three years and shall also be liable to fine.”
For jews .... early Christians were exactly alike what now Ahmedies are for Mainstream Muslims.
Early Christianity was a movement to purify Jew religion. Later on it emerged as a successful independent religion.
Early Ahmediyyat was also just an attempt to purify Islam. But as mainstream Islam has disowned them ... so now Ahmediyyat is emerging as an independent successful religion.
This new religion is strong enough that people from mainstream Muslims are adopting it.
Ahmediyyat is practicing a successful Khilafat system. Its people are sacrificing their lives etc. like early committed Muslims. We are living in an era where another future successful religion is in early phases of getting successes.
Ok Post that ordinance moreover tell us how abolishing such a law will stop violence against Qadiyanis ?
It would stop discrimination and thats enough to start with.
And BTW, how has this ordinace helped in stoping violence like the ones in Lahore??
What does this law have to do with violence in first place?? You seem to be confused yourself. We are discussing basic human-rights issue.
You should educate yourself on the difference between interfaith Violence and Terrorism .
Allocating one right will take away another , the issue is religious and humanitarian.
IF YOU ALREADY DONT KNOW,
SO despite these articels mentioned in ordiance HOW these qadianis were having place of worship in Lahore and were also holding Friday prayer (Juma) when the terrorists attacked them????????
According to this ordinance the all praying qadianis would have been imprisoned right ???
But they were not. Rather they were holding prayers.
This also proves one thing that despite this ordinance there is no practical punishment from the State