Ahmadi place of worship may see court case following mob attack

[The Sandman]

Woah guys this debate was about the finality of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) where you guys are taking it to? anyway about this news it's responsibility of the gov to protect the religious places and they failed people responsible for this should be punished.

Edit- I thought i should share this here.

Mirza Mahmud Ahmad wrote a book A’inah-i Sadaqat, published in 1921, which was translated into English and first published in 1924 under the title The Truth about the Split. In this book, while acknowledging his beliefs, he writes:

“(3) the belief that all those so-called Muslims who have not entered into his [i.e. Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s] Bai’at formally, wherever they may be, are Kafirs and outside the pale of Islam, even though they may not have heard the name of the Promised Messiah. That these beliefs have my full concurrence, I readily admit.”

— The Truth about the Split, Rabwah, 1965, pp. 55–56. The 2007 edition of this book is available on the Qadiani website from the link www.alislam.org/books/. See page 56 for this extract.

now what? they're also calling us kafirs.

 

[Zarvan]

This is absolutely terrible, to treat fellow Muslims like this is absolutely horrific. To think that your community is treated as such is a disgrace.


Hopefully the Ahmadi Muslim community regains the right to be recognized as Muslims once again.

No they don't. They lie and distort it. They first say they believe in seal of PROPHET but after that they would say that they believe that Mirza Ahmad was a PROPHET also. Qadyanis are not Muslims. They consider Mirza Ahmad as the PROPHET. That is clear kufr in Islam. @EgyptianAmerican

Now as for topic well Pakistan has rightly declared Qadyanis as non Muslims but now as they are declared non Muslims in Islam minorities have rights which include they have freedom to there worship and there places of worship has to be protected by state.

 

[The Sandman]

Now as for topic well Pakistan has rightly declared Qadyanis as non Muslims but now as they are declared non Muslims in Islam minorities have rights which include they have freedom to there worship and there places of worship has to be protected by state.

This we should've a debate on this as a Pakistani and a Muslim it's our responsibility to protect them they're Pakistanis too.

 

[JAGGA-J]

why do your believe a Prophet Essa (AS) would return?

No they don't. They lie and distort it. They first say they believe in seal of PROPHET but after that they would say that they believe that Mirza Ahmad was a PROPHET also. Qadyanis are not Muslims. They consider Mirza Ahmad as the PROPHET. That is clear kufr in Islam. @EgyptianAmerican

Now as for topic well Pakistan has rightly declared Qadyanis as non Muslims but now as they are declared non Muslims in Islam minorities have rights which include they have freedom to there worship and there places of worship has to be protected by state.

So what? There is a Prophet to come right?....You claim it's Jesus & Ahmadis claim it was Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS) who came under the Sharia of Nabi (saw) not a Prophet under Musa (AS).

So you rather take the old Prophet of Bani Israel under Musawai shariat? contradicting the Quran. Moreover, you have no Patent on Islam and all the other Muslim countries don't agree with mullah of Pakistan, As a matter of fact they won't even allow them to land in their countries.

 

[I.R.A]

now what? they're also calling us kafirs.

Non Qadiyani (you and me) are not kafir as in kafir but a Muslim Kafir .................. get it? No? Seek a fatwa from one of your own Muftis. Super logic

Okay chalo an easy one for you ....................... there would be 72 sects and per Quran a jammat out of those 72 would enter the jannah so we are not a sect but a jammat ........................ the rest of us well where do we go? Yes you got it right.


Their faith is a family business ............. I have no problems with it as long as they identify themselves and try not preaching me. The rest if they have genuine ownership of some building it should be given back to them.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Ok, so what happens to Khatam e nabuwat than? who is last? Jesus or Nabi (SAW) and why Allah the exalted states that Essa (as) was sent for Bani Isarel as Messiah? 1400 years after Musa (as)? Essa (as) has nothing to do with Islam or Quran or the Ummah of Nabi (SAW)

What will you do to the Christians that are also waiting for Jesus?




Correct Translation which doesn't contradict the Quran is as follows and you are quoting incorrectly, have some shame!

That translation has already been debunked. That is the wrong translation.

Mutawaffeeka means "take back."

 

[JAGGA-J]

That translation has already been debunked. That is the wrong translation.

Debunked by whom? the street thug moulvis or the great scholars e.g. Mufti Qavi or Tahir Asharifi, lal masjid clowns that killed our brother or the APS killer mulvis or the rest of the Takfiris?

 

[I S I]

Who are we to decide who is "Muslim" or not

Don't you know that we're ammerul momineen of ummat & have right to declare who is Muslim & who isn't. Even we have the right to declare who is a Jew too. Mashallah.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Ok, so what happens to Khatam e nabuwat than? who is last? Jesus or Nabi (SAW) and why Allah the exalted states that Essa (as) was sent for Bani Isarel as Messiah? 1400 years after Musa (as)? Essa (as) has nothing to do with Islam or Quran or the Ummah of Nabi (SAW)

What will you do to the Christians that are also waiting for Jesus?




Correct Translation which doesn't contradict the Quran is as follows and you are quoting incorrectly, have some shame!

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is the last one. Prophet Isa (pbuh) will be part of his ummah.

 

[Suff Shikan]

Really? Last time I checked they believe in the seal of prophets.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/qasim...p-making-about-ahmadi-muslims_b_5854492.html\

I said their beliefs are not complete, when did i say they did not believe in Holy Prophet SAW, kindly do some more research before replying.

Who are we to decide who is "Muslim" or not

We are not the ones to declare someone Muslim or Non-muslim, One's beliefs decide whether he is Muslim or Non-muslim, according to ahmadi beliefs they does not believe in Khatm e Nabuwat SAW and thats why they are NOT Muslim...

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Debunked by whom? the street thug moulvis or the great scholars e.g. Mufti Qavi or Tahir Asharifi, lal masjid clowns that killed our brother or the APS killer mulvis or the rest of the Takfiris?

Lololol only qadiyannis use that translation. I have Arab friends and they say that's not the right translation. Might want to reevaluate your arguments because they aren't going anywhere. Your welcome to search the real meaning of the word but didn't bother to reply back on that part now did you?

Like i said it means "take back."

Btw who gave you that translation? Ghulam Ahmed? The Self proclaimed messiah.

 

[The Sandman]

Still no one has answered to post 31.

 

[JAGGA-J]

Lololol only qadiyannis use that translation. I have Arab friends and they say that's not the right translation. Might want to reevaluate your arguments because they aren't going anywhere. Your welcome to search the real meaning of the word but didn't bother to reply back on that part now did you?

Like i said it means "take back."

Btw who gave you that translation? Ghulam Ahmed? The Self proclaimed messiah.

Brother, for God sakes man, does it look like anyone is capable or following Quran/Sunnah in the Arab world e.g. Iraq/Syria/Libya/Saudi Arabia/Yemen/Palestine etc. etc.?

 

[CHINA83NEWS]

Is there a standard rifle in Pakistan？

 

[Moonlight]

Still no one has answered to post 31.

And the question is?

Is there a standard rifle in Pakistan？