Ahmadi place of worship may see court case following mob attack

[Jugger]

Pakistan is Islamic country now, but you need to decide who are Muslims and who are not in the various sects that are in Pakistan. Those who are declared non Muslims will be treated differently than the rest.
This is the reason why I don't believe in the two nation theory, cause why stop at just two? You can divide a country further.

Mr jinnah wanted a democratic republic and not an Islamic republic precisely to avoid such issues in Pakistan.

 

[CHINA83NEWS]

Pakistan is Islamic country now, but you need to decide who are Muslims and who are not in the various sects that are in Pakistan. Those who are declared non Muslims will be treated differently than the rest.
This is the reason why I don't believe in the two nation theory, cause why stop at just two? You can divide a country further.

Mr jinnah wanted a democratic republic and not an Islamic republic precisely to avoid such issues in Pakistan.

A cornerstone of China's development is not religion.The vast majority of the han nationality is no religion in China.
So religion should not become a stumbling block to Pakistan's development.

 

[JAGGA-J]

According to you and a ew others.

P.S if you're not a ahmadi than according to them you're a Kafir.

According to you and a few others.

P.S if you're not a ahmadi than according to them you're a Kafir.

Brother that is incorrect and a dangerous logical fallacy sort of like "Have you stopped beating your wife?"

A cornerstone of China's development is not religion.The vast majority of the han nationality is no religion in China.
So religion should not become a stumbling block to Pakistan's development.

True Islam (not the mulvi version unfortunately practiced in Pakistan and elsewhere) declares the separation of Faith & State and declares all equal in every respect & free to practice their faith as they please!

 

[punit]

According to you and a few others.

P.S if you're not a ahmadi than according to them you're a Kafir.

IMO their belief was same in 1947 and 1974 and in current times. so why Ahmadis were considered as Muslim in 1947 and denied the status in 1974 ?

 

[Musafir117]

IMO their belief was same in 1947 and 1974 and in current times. so why Ahmadis were considered as Muslim in 1947 and denied the status in 1974 ?

The greedy hungry for remain in power Bhutto find a goat to Secrify he was thinking this Nobel cause increase his respect and popularity among public specialy mulla tolla BUT........!

Read this article which in lit details you can understand that saga.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1057427

 

[Suff Shikan]

I don't want to make fun of you, but, you are being silly man. Look, If Nabi (saw) is Last than what will happen when Jesus comes flying back down (like in old hindi movies)?.....Who will be LAST? and What will happen to Khatam e Nabuwat? as Nabuwat ended according to you!

Essa (AS) came as Messiah for the Bani Israel 1400 years after Musa (as)! Essa is not from the Muslim ummah! you contradict Quran.

If u dont know correctly then its not our mistake, go and seek guidance in this matter from Aalim or Mufti , he will make u understand , if u want to understand

 

[JAGGA-J]

If u dont know correctly then its not our mistake, go and seek guidance in this matter from Aalim or Mufti , he will make u understand , if u want to understand

So what's not correct in what I stated? Moreover, where are these so called alims/muftis as they hardly represent teachings of Islam considering the devastation they have wreaked on Islam/muslims by misguiding them.

 

[Suff Shikan]

And its for you to decide?

Its what Islam decides, who the hell are u to contradict Islam and Quran. And if someone contradict Islam and Quran then I am right ti say he is non muslim.

So what's not correct in what I stated? Moreover, where are these so called alims/muftis as they hardly represent teachings of Islam considering the devastation they have wreaked on Islam/muslims by misguiding them.

Its ur task to find the right one if u need to know the right thing.
The question about the arrival of Hazrat Isa AS as a follower of Nabi SAW ,as his ummati, there is no doubt about that.

 

[JAGGA-J]

Its what Islam decides, who the hell are u to contradict Islam and Quran. And if someone contradict Islam and Quran then I am right ti say he is non muslim.

With that logic you are hereby declared as non muslim by me, as You, according to me contradict Islam. Thus you are hereby declared as a Kafir...Sounds pretty barbaric doesn't it?

Its what Islam decides, who the hell are u to contradict Islam and Quran. And if someone contradict Islam and Quran then I am right ti say he is non muslim.


Its ur task to find the right one if u need to know the right thing.
The question about the arrival of Hazrat Isa AS as a follower of Nabi SAW ,as his ummati, there is no doubt about that.

Ok so when Essa (as) arrives will He be a Prophet?

 

[Musafir117]

Its what Islam decides, who the hell are u to contradict Islam and Quran. And if someone contradict Islam and Quran then I am right ti say he is non muslim.


Its ur task to find the right one if u need to know the right thing.
The question about the arrival of Hazrat Isa AS as a follower of Nabi SAW ,as his ummati, there is no doubt about that.

Ok here is the scholar Dr Ghamidi and I believe what he saying is correct that Hadhrat Essa ES died like other human being.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Let me help you make it easy to digest.

Nabi (saw) is and will remain Khatam e nabeen forever! The Seal/Final Law Bearing Prophet with the final word of Allah revealed in the Holy Quran. The messiah/Mahdi are titles of a the same person to appear as a Prophet to follow from the Muslim ummah under the Seal of Nabi (saw) & follow Quran & Sunnah.

The Muslim ummah cannot be guided by a Prophet from the Muswi shariat as that ended with the advent of Nabi (saw) 1400 years ago. You keep dragging Essa (as) back into Muslim ummah when He (as) died and was sent per Quran for the Bani Israel!

Your missing the point. He will follow prophet Muhammad's (pbuh) teachings. But he didn't even die yet. Logically it doesn't make sense for him to naturally die while being nailed to a cross now does it?

Btw the Mahdi and messiah are not the same person. We don't know who the Mahdi is. Mahdi will unite Muslims. That is all.

 

[Doctor-D]

You people dug it up, the Ahmadi issue, just like the issue of the worship place evolved into a violent conflict after so many years.
Rather than focusing upon the issue of Ahmadi's being Muslim or not, can someone shed light on the issue of the worship place. Was it ever a Majid? If it was/is, what are the legal/Sharai' guidelines should be followed in that case? And who has brought this issue into blazing light with such violent zeal after so many years and why? If the verdict was given and the worship place is entitled to belong to the Ahmadi's , why are the muslims of the area fighting over it?

 

[Suff Shikan]

Ok here is the scholar Dr Ghamidi and I believe what he saying is correct that Hadhrat Essa ES died like other human being.

Everybody know authencity of Fitna e Ghamdi, if u want to follow him , its completely ur right and ur choice.

With that logic you are hereby declared as non muslim by me, as You, according to me contradict Islam. Thus you are hereby declared as a Kafir...Sounds pretty barbaric doesn't it?

Nobody is stopping u from declaring me as Kafir, as i too have no issue if u declare me as Kafir. I have one more thing for u, if someone is decalared as Kafir, and the one is really Kafir than no issue, but if he is not Kafir, then KUFR will rebound to one the who declared it wrongly, so I pray for ur Eemaan if ur Muslim, then I forgive u,

 

[T-123456]

Its what Islam decides, who the hell are u to contradict Islam and Quran. And if someone contradict Islam and Quran then I am right ti say he is non muslim.

To which sect do you belong?

 

[Suff Shikan]

I am from the sect that was taught by Nabi SAW and followed by Ashaab RA .