Ahmadi man along with his Sunni neighbor shot dead in Orangi Town, Karachi

[KingMamba]

Right he came before than after than before than after and after jesus come again then live and go up and never return and then return ! yes i am dumb

whos dumb one who believes one can go fly into air while another dies and is buried in the ground dont tell me you also believe internet is run with reciting Surah Akhlas and Pakistanis have also invented a car than runs on sawab !

Do you challenge the power of Allah to raise unto himself who he wills? Cause in the Quran it says Allah raised Jesus to heaven and not Jesus did it himself, Muslims belief he was a mortal prophet like all other mortal prophets. So does your Jammat teach you that Allah is not all powerful?

[Mention] when Allah said, "O Jesus, indeed I will take you and raise you to Myself and purify you from those who disbelieve and make those who follow you [in submission to Allah alone] superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection.
- Quran 3:54-55
http://quran.com/3/54-55

 

[Pakistani E]

Never seen any Ahmedi crying over Hundreds of Muslims killed in Karachi before. Why they are using it as Victim card , Why any Ahmedi not seen active on Karachi killing related thread before. Does only Ahmedis are considered Humans among Ahmedi? Don't their religion condemn the killings of other country mates? Why now we can't see the patriotism among Ahmedis?

Again do you watch ahmadi channels? If you did you would not say what you just did. All Ahmadis around the world are asked to pray for Pakistan, we want a stop to the unjust killings of humans anywhere in the world. The problem with you people, when an ahmadi is killed, it must have been some RAW/CIA/Mossad/Mi5 conspiracy to malign Pakistan. Right?

 

[hussain0216]

The spread of islam is destiny,

Prophet Muhammed pbuh mission on earth was complete

Jesus mission isnt finished yet


Islam Means SUBMISSION to the will of God
Muslims is ONE who submits to the will of God (do not bother calling yourself a muslims if you are not worthy of the name you just become a hypocrite)



All messengers of God bought the same message of the one true God, it was only man who changed and deviated from the message



Jesus's mission isnt complete, he will return to complete his mission and reveal islam as the one true and only will of God

 

[SarthakGanguly]

In Kashmir we have a 'Grand Mufti'. There is word that he does sell fatwas like its halwa puri

Ahmadis don't have to prove their loyalty to self proclaimed scholars. Btw yesterday you were dishing out fatwas like its halwa puri.

 

[KingMamba]

Yes that's why I'm saying since when have the deobandis become the tekhadar of Pakistan. It's actually ahmadis, shias and berelvis who can lay any claim on the tekhedari of Pakistan. IF ahmadis hadn't supported Qaid e azam, there would be no Pakistan. MR Jinnah would have lived in a quiet life as barrister in London. And in reply to your statement of getting involved in politics thn every Pakistani has the right to take part in their country's politics. Why is jamaat e islami allowed to participate in politics? why is Maulana fazlur rehman? Why is Majlis wahdatul muslimeen? You can't hide your hypocrisy under your cute answers lol.

Okay so tell your brother who said supporting ones nation is as article of faith but your caliph also supported Pakistan. What happened to his support for India? Look at the context in which I reply.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Ok I have heard about what we can expect. What do you think will happen to us non Muslims?

The spread of islam is destiny,

Prophet Muhammed pbuh mission on earth was complete

Jesus mission isnt finished yet


Islam Means SUBMISSION to the will of God
Muslims is ONE who submits to the will of God (do not bother calling yourself a muslims if you are not worthy of the name you just become a hypocrite)



All messengers of God bought the same message of the one true God, it was only man who changed and deviated from the message



Jesus's mission isnt complete, he will return to complete his mission and reveal islam as the one true and only will of God

 

[hussain0216]

Ahmedi's are not muslims, aslong as they understand that they can do whay they want

 

[Jaanbaz]

In Kashmir we have a 'Grand Mufti'. There is word that he does sell fatwas like its halwa puri

That's their roti pani. To them religion is business.

 

[Pakistani E]

Ahmedi's are not muslims, aslong as they understand that they can do whay they want

I don't understand, I never will. I refuse to understand it. What are you going to do about it?

 

[Jaanbaz]

Ahmedi's are not muslims, aslong as they understand that they can do whay they want

Ahmadis are Muslims. There is nothing you can do to change that.

 

[hussain0216]

Ok I have heard about what we can expect. What do you think will happen to us non Muslims?

Islam is the one true will of God, its is the only path to salvation


So hinduism, xtianity etc are all wrong they are false Paths (not neccersarily all bad but not correct either)


Islam has already been revealed to you, life is a short TEST of your faith and beleif in the one true god.


You should already testify and declare that you are a muslim & beleive in the one god & follow the commands & rules God has laid out for all humanity

Not what mullah;s, saints, politicians or anyone else tells you about islam

Failure to do so may mean hell fire

 

[KingMamba]

Allah is so powerful that Jesus will return to Christians and Prophet muhammad is dead

Christians 1 - Muslim 0


that means all Muslims are going to hell because Christians are right !

guess what he you are right i just found something He was supposed to appear east of Damascus Syria and look http://goo.gl/maps/WjbNR

Jesus will return to Christians? You do realize the majority of Christians believe Jesus was God himself? We Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet who was sent down to guide Bani Israel but they rejected and tried to murder him but good always triumphs over evil so Allah brought him to heaven before they could crucify him.

Also your bold statement shows a lack of knowledge for Christian doctrine because it is entirely different to Islamic view of Jesus second coming. So Jesus returning through our doctrine would not be a Christian victory.

 

[hussain0216]

Ahmadis are Muslims. There is nothing you can do to change that.

Then why complain when you get shot in karachi or somewhere, not that I condone such attacks


But you antagonise people with your false faith and then expect no response

 

[KingMamba]

How can Jesus who you say was supposed to come hasnt come yet and the time given has already passed ? by the way look where is Qadian on the map here http://goo.gl/maps/WjbNR

How would you know the time given has already supposedly passed? There are many things to come before Jesus returns according to us Muslims but you guys are not taught our beliefs so I doubt you would know any of it. Don't you believe he is buried in kashmir? An account based on false historical narrative that even non-Muslims scholars dismiss as erroneous?

According to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad the founder of the Ahmadiyyas, the further sayings of Muhammad say that Jesus died in Kashmir at the age of one hundred and twenty years. They identify the holy man Yuz Asaf buried at the Roza Bal shrine in Srinagar, India as Jesus on the basis of an account in the History of Kashmir by the Sufi poet Khwaja Muhammad Azam Didamari (1747) that the holy man Yuz Asaf buried there was a prophet and a foreign prince.[43] Paul C. Pappas states that from a historical perspective, the Ahmadi identification of Yuzasaf with Jesus relies on legends and documents which include clear historical errors (e.g. Gondophares' reign) and that "it is almost impossible to identify Yuz Asaf with Jesus".[44]
In his 1957 book "The Wisdom of Balahvar" David Marshall Lang presented evidence of how confusion in diacritical markings in Arabic texts transformed Budhasaf (Buddha-to-be) into Yudasaf, Iodasaph, and then Yuzasaf, and resulted in the Ahmadiyya assertions; also confusing Kashmir and Kushinara, the place of Buddha's death.[45] The Swedish scholar Per Beskow in Jesus in Kashmir: Historien om en legend (1981) also concluded that Ahmad had misidentified traditions about Gautama Buddha in the Bilawhar wa-Yudasaf legend as being about Jesus. Beskow updated his conclusions in English in 2011.[46]

Unknown years of Jesus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Jaanbaz]

Jesus will return to Christians? You do realize the majority of Christians believe Jesus was God himself? We Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet who was sent down to guide Bani Israel but they rejected and tried to murder him but good always triumphs over evil so Allah brought him to heaven before they could crucify him.

Also your bold statement shows a lack of knowledge for Christian doctrine because it is entirely different to Islamic view of Jesus second coming. So Jesus returning through our doctrine would not be a Christian victory.

Christains believe Jesus will return and the kingdom of God would be established on earth. And false religions would be destroyed. Just Imagine to Christians Islam is false too. Can' you tell how silly this all sounds. A prophet returning to massacre humans instead of saving them?

How would you know the time given has already supposedly passed? There are many things to come before Jesus returns according to us Muslims but you guys are not taught our beliefs so I doubt you would know any of it. Don't you believe he is buried in kashmir? An account based on false historical narrative that even non-Muslims scholars dismiss as erroneous?

According to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad the founder of the Ahmadiyyas, the further sayings of Muhammad say that Jesus died in Kashmir at the age of one hundred and twenty years. They identify the holy man Yuz Asaf buried at the Roza Bal shrine in Srinagar, India as Jesus on the basis of an account in the History of Kashmir by the Sufi poet Khwaja Muhammad Azam Didamari (1747) that the holy man Yuz Asaf buried there was a prophet and a foreign prince.[43] Paul C. Pappas states that from a historical perspective, the Ahmadi identification of Yuzasaf with Jesus relies on legends and documents which include clear historical errors (e.g. Gondophares' reign) and that "it is almost impossible to identify Yuz Asaf with Jesus".[44]
In his 1957 book "The Wisdom of Balahvar" David Marshall Lang presented evidence of how confusion in diacritical markings in Arabic texts transformed Budhasaf (Buddha-to-be) into Yudasaf, Iodasaph, and then Yuzasaf, and resulted in the Ahmadiyya assertions; also confusing Kashmir and Kushinara, the place of Buddha's death.[45] The Swedish scholar Per Beskow in Jesus in Kashmir: Historien om en legend (1981) also concluded that Ahmad had misidentified traditions about Gautama Buddha in the Bilawhar wa-Yudasaf legend as being about Jesus. Beskow updated his conclusions in English in 2011.[46]

Unknown years of Jesus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Quoting Christians who are desperately trying to save their god.