Ahmadi bookstore owner booked under anti-Terrorism act

[Mutakalim]

The vast majority of Pakistani Ahmadis are still in Pakistan. The Pakistani Ahmadi diaspora runs in the low hundreds of thousands. Millions are still back in Pakistan, we'll continue to fight peacefully for our rights, We made Pakistan not these mullahs that we should abandon it.

You people can claim whatever you think best suites your pockets just like claims of Kazaab e Aazam.

 

[Pakistani E]

What r those rights u r fighting for? U r already allowed to live and even break PAK law , entice riots , do baseless propaganda and get away with spreading filth. Is that not enough? Or has it got to do with earning hard western cash via serving western interest.

The right to not be discriminated against based on religion?

I don't entice riots, if by my mere existence you are unable to control yourselves and start riots. Than there is something wrong with your head, not mine.

You people can claim whatever you think best suites your pockets just like claims of Kazaab e Aazam.

If Britain or Jews or whatever imaginary friend R@ped you when you were a kid paid me to be Ahmadi, I wouldn't be sitting here replying to you lot while simulatenously doing my work. You should be grateful I am giving you attention.

 

[Mutakalim]

If Britain or Jews or whatever imaginary friend R@ped you when you were a kid paid me to be Ahmadi, I wouldn't be sitting here replying to you lot while simulatenously doing my work. You should be grateful I am giving you attention.

You are presenting a complete picture of your Kazaab Nabi Mirza ghulam ahmed. A die hard ahmedi following teachings of his prophet Mirza ghulam ahmed. @Color_Less_Sky

You should be grateful I am giving you attention.

You should be grateful that we are tolerating your presence in Pakistan.

 

[Musafir117]

You are presenting a complete picture of your Kazaab Nabi Mirza ghulam ahmed. A die hard ahmedi following teachings of his prophet Mirza ghulam ahmed. @Color_Less_Sky


You should be grateful that we are tolerating your presence in Pakistan.

Don't use word ( WE ) your kind of filth only represent 0.05% in Pakistan and engage a filth like you mean make dirty own self SO shu shu.

 

[untitled]

What happened to the bookstore owner who was arrested? Any updates?

 

[Mutakalim]

Don't use word ( WE ) your kind of filth only represent 0.05% in Pakistan and engage a filth like you mean make dirty own self SO shu shu.

Same 0.05% declared you and your Mirza Nabi Kafir. Deal with it ahmedi.

 

[ZeusMK]

they call them self Ahmadi's , = accepted
they call them self Muslims = arrest them ,they are refusing to follow Constitution of i.i.of.pakistan.

+1 to this statement.


ahmedis should call themselves 'non muslims' in public and no muslim ever would get offended by them but they should never dare entitle themselves as 'muslims'. because that's treacherous, nefarious and vile and would get the real muslims very angry for violating the word of GOD and the prophet pbuh.

in short they should behave themselves

 

[pak-marine]

Same 0.05% declared you and your Mirza Nabi Kafir. Deal with it ahmedi.

dont wish but the day some one declares imam ahmed reza kafir and hurt you or some close on the charges of being murtad .. you will feel the pain kid .. till than good luck keep with bashing ahmedis

 

[Pakistani E]

You are presenting a complete picture of your Kazaab Nabi Mirza ghulam ahmed. A die hard ahmedi following teachings of his prophet Mirza ghulam ahmed. @Color_Less_Sky


You should be grateful that we are tolerating your presence in Pakistan.

Read up this whole thread and see the language used by your fellow brothers for Ahmadis and Hazrat Sahib. My language isn't even 0.01% as severe or offensive as your fellows on this forum and around Pakistan.

 

[IndoUS]

Well you folks fought for the creation of an Islamic nation now you gotta fight to get recognized by that same nation the irony is to great in this one.

 

[Maarkhoor]

It's strange how this new thing has come up. Before you, people like you said he died of cholera. When that was rebutted they jumped on to a new thing. That's all I've seen in all my life of study, when one allegation gets answered, they jump to another. While not stopping to think they've been lying or spreading information that they were not sure about. A significant sin of course, but when has a small of matter of sin stopped you people.

All eye witnesses agree He died in his bed at 10:30 due to weakness from dysentry. Now if you think dying from complications of dysentry is an accursed death than you have clearly not studied Hadiths.

‘‘There are seven types of martyrdom in addition to being killed in Allah’s cause: one who dies of plague is a martyr; one who is drowned is a martyr; one who dies of pleurisy is a martyr; one who dies of an internal complaint is a martyr; one who is burnt to death is a martyr; who one is killed by a building falling on him is a martyr; and a woman who dies while pregnant is a martyr.’’ (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Bk.20, No.3105)


But I will give you the benefit of doubt, I am not here to judge hearts.

Indeed, Mirza Ghulam's death was a sign of Allah(SWT)'s displeasure with him. He died from the disease he feared the most in a wretched condition and in utter disgrace, as he himself had stated:

"To turn out a liar in his own prophecy is biggest disgrace of disgraces."
(Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 15, P. 382)
Let's review the record of Mirza's death as recounted by his closest followers and actual witnesses to his death.

Bashir Ahmad, the son of Mirza Ghulam, wrote in his biography:

"My mother informed me that 'the first attack of looseness of bowels upon the Promised Messiah occurred when he was at his dining room table. Later, I started pressing his legs and he lay in comfort and slept and soon I too slept. After a short while, he again felt the call of nature and he used the bathroom a couple of times without awakening me, After this he felt very weak; he shook me up and laid down on my bed. I recommenced pressing. In a few minutes he told me to go to bed but I refused and continued to press. Once again he had an urge and, being too weak to go to the lavatory, I made arrangement for him close to the bed. He sat down and relieved himself. Next, he laid himself back on my bed and I started pressing again. His weakness grew intense; he had another motion, accompanied this time by vomiting. This paralyzed him so much that when trying to lay back on the bed, he fell on his back and hit his head on the bed post. His condition alarmed me...'."
(Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 1, P. 11-12; Sirat-ul-Mehdi, P.109)
Mirza Ghulam's father in law, Mir Nasir Nawab, recorded in his autobiography:

"The night his holiness fell ill, I was sleeping in my room. When his illness grew severe, they woke me up. I went over to his holiness and found him in great pain. He addressed me saying: 'I have been stricken with cholera.' After this, he did not utter a single intelligible and coherent word till he died on Monday, after ten O'clock in the morning."
(Hayat-i-Nasir, P. 14)
Mirza Ghulam used to say that cholera or plague is the sign of Allah(SWT)'s wrath on mankind for their wrong doing! It is fitting that his last words were the admission that he had been stricken with the disease he was so fearful of. The witnesses present at his bed side recorded:

"Huzoor (Mirza Ghulam) could not talk two hours before death. Dr. Mirza Yaqoob Baig and Dr. Syed Mohammad Hussei Shah were the attending physicians. Huzoor asked for paper and wrote on it: 'I have too much dryness. I can't talk.' and some other words which could not be read."
(Al-Fazl, Vol. 25, No. 274, November 24, 1937)
"As his condition became precarious, we stayed by him and continued treatment, but his pulse stopped by 10:15 A.M., on the 26th May, 1908 he breathed his last."
(Al-Hakam, Mary 28, 1908)

We can not imagine what Mirza Ghulam might have felt when the hour of death approached and Allah(SWT) shut his mouth and tongue so that he could neither repent (proclaim Kalima) nor utter any more lies.



And who can be more unjust than he who invents a lie against Allah, or says: "I have received inspiration," whereas he is not inspired in anything; and who says, "I will reveal the like of what Allah has revealed." And if you could but see when the wrong-doers are in the agonies of death, while the angels are stretching forth their hands (saying): "Deliver your soul! This day you shall be recompensed with the torment of degradation because of what you used to utter against Allah other than the truth. And you used to reject His signs (revelations) with disrespect!"
(The Holy Quran, Al-Anam, 6:93)

Mirza Ghulam's death irrefutably proves that the prophecies he attributed to Allah(SWT) were fabricated by him and his associates. The irony is that, to impress his followers, he had proclaimed his prophecies to be the ultimate sign of his truthfulness and stated:

"If what I have said does not happen exactly, I am prepared for every punishment. My face should be blackened and I should be hanged. I swear by the Mighty Allah that what I have said will happen. It must happen. It is possible that the earth may be changed for another earth and the sky may be replaced by another sky, but it is not possible for God's word to change -- prepare for me a cross if my falsehood is exposed and curse me more than the Satans and the evil persons are cursed."
(Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 6, P. 293; Jang-i-Maqaddas, P. 188)
"To Judge my truthfulness or lies, there is no better test than my prophecies."
(Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 19, P. 288)

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

You should be grateful that we are tolerating your presence in Pakistan.

This is precisely the kind of sick, perverted mentality that results in the hatred, intolerance and terrorism of Daesh and the massacres in innocent people in incidents like the Lashkar-e-jhangvi bombing in Parachinar today.

+1 to this statement.


ahmedis should call themselves 'non muslims' in public and no muslim ever would get offended by them but they should never dare entitle themselves as 'muslims'. because that's treacherous, nefarious and vile and would get the real muslims very angry for violating the word of GOD and the prophet pbuh.

in short they should behave themselves

In short, you and people who believe in the same perverted views as those you voiced here need to be committed to insane asylums, terrorist rehabilitation camps and flagged and tracked as individuals who pose a significant threat of becoming terrorists.

 

[Sipahi]

I don't get it, they believe in Allah, they celebrate eid (do they?).. believe in the holy quraan, what's the problem ? It should be ok if they also revere some saint. I'm guessing the sufis probably don't have a problem with them.. why are most of Pakistani sunnis so rigid and Saudi like ?

Ahmedis are muslims, you people shouldn't fall into the same trap as the middle east with all this bs, I think promoting more sufiism should be the way forward.. sufis are like the hippies, full of peace, love, music and dance

Muslim accept Moses as a Pophet of ALLAH so all the Muslims are Jews ?

And Also Muslims accept Jesus as Prophet of ALLAH so now we all are Christians ???

Muslims are Muslim because they follow Muhammad PBUH, Ahmadi got their own prophet so they have no rights to call them self as Muslims as Muslims don't have right to introduce themselves as christians and christian as jew and vis versa.

The problem starts when Ahmadi introduce themselves as Muslims and in our Faith, there will be no prophet after Muhammad PBUH. Its not a arab uzbak afghan chinese things .. Its a Muslim faith.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Muslim accept Moses as a Pophet of ALLAH so all the Muslims are Jews ?

And Also Muslims accept Jesus as Prophet of ALLAH so now we all are Christians ???

Muslims are Muslim because they follow Muhammad PBUH, Ahmadi got their own prophet so they have no rights to call them self as Muslims as Muslims don't have right to introduce themselves as christians and christian as jew and vis versa.

The problem starts when Ahmadi introduce themselves as Muslims and in our Faith, there will be no prophet after Muhammad PBUH. Its not a arab uzbak afghan chinese things .. Its a Muslim faith.

Only Allah has the right to determine the legitimacy of someone's faith - neither you nor anyone else has the right to discriminate against millions of Ahmadi Muslims and force them to follow your intolerant and un-Islamic demands.

 

[Sipahi]

Only Allah has the right to determine the legitimacy of someone's faith - neither you nor anyone else has the right to discriminate against millions of Ahmadi Muslims and force them to follow your intolerant and un-Islamic demands.

First of all, I respect them and their faith, they can do what they want to do, is mulk mein christian hindu sb tableegh kr rhe hain mujhe us se koi masla ni hai tou in se q hoga ???

And secondly Millions are Ahmadi not MUSLIMS.