Ahmadi bookstore owner booked under anti-Terrorism act

[Jaanbaz]

They already playing minority cards and producing fake FIRs in western embassies to get visa.

Good on them. Lets hope the delusional ones soon realise the hate Pakistanis have for Ahmadis. I hope they read this thread.

Dude, are you dyslexic or what? Don't make everything a matter of your ego. Where in my posts did I write I have a problem with Ahmadis? They are respected members of our society and part of our culture. Read the fine print, where I said follow the laws or change them lawfully through parliamentary majority. How can you force anyone to call you a Muslim when the law says that you are an Ahmadi and not a Muslim. If the majority made a law call a mouse a cat, then sad to say that even I will be forced to call a mouse a cat, no matter how much I'm against it. It's as simple as that.

I'll make it even more easy for you.

Till the law is amended or redacted, follow the following rules:

1. Call yourself an Ahmadi.
2. Don't preach as if you're preaching Islam.

So where did I go wrong with advising you and others on following law of the land?

We believe we are Muslims, you say we hurt your feelings. You guys even made a law and rioted before and after the law was made. As I said, the best solution is to leave Pakistan.

 

[Hyperion]

Dude, something seriously wrong with the way you think. Ask the Shias at large, the Hazaras, the Hindus, the Sikhs etc etc..... none of them preach what you're preaching, even after suffering casualties at the hands of the system. Not once. They are all united in one thing, that the constitution of Pakistan is supreme. You on the other hand want what 1% says to be the voice of rest of 99%? How can that happen, do elaborate!

We believe we are Muslims, you say we hurt your feelings. You guys even made a law and rioted before and after the law was made. As I said, the best solution is to leave Pakistan.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Good on them. Lets hope the delusional ones soon realise the hate Pakistanis have for Ahmadis. I hope they read this thread.



We believe we are Muslims, you say we hurt your feelings. You guys even made a law and rioted before and after the law was made. As I said, the best solution is to leave Pakistan.

Its is not a matter of hate but the identity accept the fact and live peacefully even now there is no problem no riots since constitutional amendment only few cases mostly involved Ahmadi and non-Ahmadi people over property / land and both parties playing their cards to get win win situation Ahmadi shouts intolerance majority attack and Muslim call it blasphemy. Situation is not that worse as you are describing or feeling.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Dude, something seriously wrong with the way you think. Ask the Shias at large, the Hazaras, the Hindus, the Sikhs etc etc..... none of them preach what you're preaching, even after suffering casualties at the hands of the system. Not once. They are all united in one thing, that the constitution of Pakistan is supreme. You on the other hand want what 1% says to be the voice of rest of 99%? How can that happen, do elaborate!

That's what I'm trying say my friend. You guys are majority, you can make any law. But we believe we are Muslims, we pray fast, hajj, zakat etc and believe in Allah and His Prophets yet we still hurt the feelings of the majority. Pakistani law forces us to call us non Muslims, that's pure and simple discrimination. Ahmadis should accept this law and move out of Pakistan. The whole debate would end there right?

I'm not even saying change the law, keep the blasphemy law, anti ahmadiyya laws too. I want to convince Pakistani Ahmadis to see the real face of majority.

Its is not a matter of hate but the identity accept the fact and live peacefully even now there is no problem no riots since constitutional amendment only few cases mostly involved Ahmadi and non-Ahmadi people over property / land and both parties playing their cards to get win win situation Ahmadi shouts intolerance majority attack and Muslim call it blasphemy. Situation is not that worse as you are describing or feeling.

Are you joking?

 

[Maarkhoor]

That's what I'm trying say my friend. You guys are majority, you can make any law. But we believe we are Muslims, we pray fast, hajj, zakat etc and believe in Allah and His Prophets yet we still hurt the feelings of the majority. Pakistani law forces us to call us non Muslims, that's pure and simple discrimination. Ahmadis should accept this law and move out of Pakistan. The whole debate would end there right?

I'm not even saying change the law, keep the blasphemy law, anti ahmadiyya laws too. I want to convince Pakistani Ahmadis to see the real face of majority.



Are you joking?

OK you believe in Mirza Ghulaam Ahmad as a prophet Mahdi or etc etc we call him heretic Kafir and dajjal know what you say about me.

That's what I'm trying say my friend. You guys are majority, you can make any law. But we believe we are Muslims, we pray fast, hajj, zakat etc and believe in Allah and His Prophets yet we still hurt the feelings of the majority. Pakistani law forces us to call us non Muslims, that's pure and simple discrimination. Ahmadis should accept this law and move out of Pakistan. The whole debate would end there right?

I'm not even saying change the law, keep the blasphemy law, anti ahmadiyya laws too. I want to convince Pakistani Ahmadis to see the real face of majority.



Are you joking?

No me serious

 

[Jaanbaz]

OK you believe in Mirza Ghulaam Ahmad as a prophet Mahdi or etc etc we call him heretic Kafir and dajjal know what you say about me.

I disagree with you and would ignore you. But I'm not going to lynch you or burn your mosque down. That's the difference. Majority of world doesn't accept Muhammad(saw) as a True Prophet, what do you call those people? How do you deal with them?

 

[Maarkhoor]

Majority of world doesn't accept Muhammad(saw) as a True Prophet, what do you call those people? How do you deal with them?

Nothing because they don't claim Muslim identity OK.

@Jaanbaz
Did you ever read Mirza's books and life history You believe on crooked eye liar. First claim mujadid then Mahdi then kalki avataar then prophet nauzo billa he did't spare anyone.

@Jaanbaz
Just please for once watch this video

 

[Jaanbaz]

Nothing because they don't claim Muslim identity OK.

Last time I checked you guys went bananas and start rioting when someone drew cartoons. So clearly you think something of them don't you?

You're not looking at this logically are you? You have a problem with Ahmadis calling themselves as Muslims, I say Ahmadis should leave Pakistan. That should resolve the issue at least in Pakistan. You will see show prosperous Pakistan would become, clearly Ahmadis are holding Pakistan back, we are the secret Jewish allies that are looting the country's wealth.

Did you ever read Mirza's books and life history You believe on crooked eye liar. First claim mujadid then Mahdi then kalki avataar then prophet nauzo billa he did't spare anyone.

I've read many, still in the process of reading more. I have my personal library or religious and history books. Clearly you don't read much, you keep posting some video of some old baba jee.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Last time I checked you guys went bananas and start rioting when someone drew cartoons. So clearly you think something of them don't you?

You're not looking at this logically are you? You have a problem with Ahmadis calling themselves as Muslims, I say Ahmadis should leave Pakistan. That should resolve the issue at least in Pakistan. You will see show prosperous Pakistan would become, clearly Ahmadis are holding Pakistan back, we are the secret Jewish allies that are looting the country's wealth.

You people are Pakistani loyal, brave but please understand our point of view. Just don't play minority card to get the German passport by showing fake FIR and stories of atrocities.

 

[Jaanbaz]

You believe on crooked eye liar

After you have run out of arguments you turn to abusive language. But don't worry my friend, I'm not going to burn down your house or your factory. That's not what we are taught.

 

[Maarkhoor]

@Jaanbaz
Allah Says in the Holy Quran Chapter 6 Surah Anaam verse 25:

25 Of them there are some who (pretend to) listen to thee; but We have thrown veils on their hearts so they understand it not and deafness in their ears; if they saw every one of the Signs not they will believe in them; in so much that when they come to thee they (but) dispute with thee; the disbelievers say: "These are nothing but tales of the ancients."

 

[Jaanbaz]

You people are Pakistani loyal, brave but please understand our point of view. Just don't play minority card to get the German passport by showing fake FIR and stories of atrocities.

More Sunni Pakistanis are immigrating to Europe, many used to pretend to be Ahmadis to get asylum here. Many got caught and deported.

 

[Maarkhoor]

 

[Jaanbaz]

@Jaanbaz
Allah Says in the Holy Quran Chapter 6 Surah Anaam verse 25:

25 Of them there are some who (pretend to) listen to thee; but We have thrown veils on their hearts so they understand it not and deafness in their ears; if they saw every one of the Signs not they will believe in them; in so much that when they come to thee they (but) dispute with thee; the disbelievers say: "These are nothing but tales of the ancients."

This verse clearly applies to you.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Two translations of this Ayah follow:



O people! Muhammad has no sons among ye men, but verily, he is the Apostle of God and the last in the line of Prophets. And God is Aware of everything.

Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things. (The Holy Quran, Al-Ahzab 33:40)