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"There are no shortcuts to any place worth going."
- Beverly Sills

I would support drastic changes only as a last resort, not just yet, and then only if there were a reasonable chance of real improvement.

Hi,,

A stitch in time saves nine---drastic steps must be taken earlier on----because at later stages---there are terrible consequences to be paid.

If you read the history of successful rulers, kings, queens, you will find that they had no love lost for the criminals----. The criminals were struck hard right away without any remorse. The justice was swift and ruthless---.

There was no such mentality as----let them corrupt themselves---we will see how long they do it---they will get tired----.

You got to hang those people who say that----they are in fact the criminals and in cahoots with the corrupt.

Corruption is a cancer----destroy it sooner at its roots---and you may have chance to live fre of it for awhile---till it pops up again and you strike at it again.

Histories of successful nation are written over the dead bodies of the corrupt and the criminals---70 years or 700 years----there is no excuse not to have a rule of law----.

Before 70 years---pakistanis did not live in ether---they were living in a state that had rules and laws to manage and run the state---and as long as they followed the laws for the first 20 years----there was law and order----when the implementation was changed under Bhutto---it slowly became chaotic.

Nations when created don't need to start from the stone age----they are already existing in a society of rule and law---. That is all that is needed to create a lawfull nation----this 70 years excuise is another SOB STORY of the pakistanis---.
 
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Hi,

And I am asking no different over here as well---. You have to make sacrifices to appreciate what you have---a hill conquered without blood on its slopes has basically no value. A hill conquered with blood on its slopes becomes a monument to be remembered for centuries.

some things some can see others cant lol

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Hi,,

A stitch in time saves nine---drastic steps must be taken earlier on----because at later stages---there are terrible consequences to be paid.

If you read the history of successful rulers, kings, queens, you will find that they had no love lost for the criminals----. The criminals were struck hard right away without any remorse. The justice was swift and ruthless---.

There was no such mentality as----let them corrupt themselves---we will see how long they do it---they will get tired----.

You got to hang those people who say that----they are in fact the criminals and in cahoots with the corrupt.

Corruption is a cancer----destroy it sooner at its roots---and you may have chance to live fre of it for awhile---till it pops up again and you strike at it again.

Histories of successful nation are written over the dead bodies of the corrupt and the criminals---70 years or 700 years----there is no excuse not to have a rule of law----.

Before 70 years---pakistanis did not live in ether---they were living in a state that had rules and laws to manage and run the state---and as long as they followed the laws for the first 20 years----there was law and order----when the implementation was changed under Bhutto---it slowly became chaotic.

Nations when created don't need to start from the stone age----they are already existing in a society of rule and law---. That is all that is needed to create a lawfull nation----this 70 years excuise is another SOB STORY of the pakistanis---.

Only one institution can deliver that in pakistan. Right man with a committee at its head committed to pakistan. Maybe 5th time lucky
 
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I am sure that TT discourse within their private subforum is of a higher standard. Let's leave them in peace, shall we? :)

Hi,

There is no discourse in the TT forum---it is not TOLERATED.
 
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some things some can see others cant lol

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Only one institution can deliver that in pakistan. Right man with a committee at its head committed to pakistan. Maybe 5th time lucky

Hi,

An average pakistani needs to condemn it and needs to get out of his house to take action in droves----the target need to be the corrupt and the criminal---the stage that we are at---the situation of law and order needs to be taken over by the public----there need to be mass hanging of criminals on the light poles and tree trunks----petty criminals---small ones large one----corrupt politicians---they need to feel the rope against their necks---all through the country---.

Pakistan needs to be cleansed---and this cleansing will only occur when you give it the sacrifice of dead criminals----you will have to start from the top and at the same time from the bottom as well---.

Make the criminal fearful of his life----he seems strong when he inflicts pain on helpless victims----but wait till you see the table turned on him----.

You want to win---you got to play by the enemy's worst rules---.

My pakistani ciolleagues over here have been saying for the last 6 yeras---the situation is already bad---how much worse it can get---and then they see it getting worse and then they hope again---how much worse it can get---it gets worse again---worse than before---and they have their mouths hanging open----and they say----hehn---hehn---hehn jee--phir---O bus jee----phir kee karya---.
 
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Hi,

There is no discourse in the TT forum---it is not TOLERATED.

I still dont get it. Is it a private company that one person owns? is it a charitable organistaion? does it have a constitution or articles. Or is it like pakistan lol
 
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Hi,

An average pakistani needs to condemn it and needs to get out of his house to take action in droves----the target need to be the corrupt and the criminal---the stage that we are at---the situation of law and order needs to be taken over by the public----there need to be mass hanging of criminals on the light poles and tree trunks----petty criminals---small ones large one----corrupt politicians---they need to feel the rope against their necks---all through the country---.

Pakistan needs to be cleansed---and this cleansing will only occur when you give it the sacrifice of dead criminals----you will have to start from the top and at the same time from the bottom as well---.

Make the criminal fearful of his life----he seems strong when he inflicts pain on helpless victims----but wait till you see the table turned on him----.

You want to win---you got to play by the enemy's worst rules---.

My pakistani ciolleagues over here have been saying for the last 6 yeras---the situation is already bad---how much worse it can get---and then they see it getting worse and then they hope again---how much worse it can get---it gets worse again---worse than before---and they have their mouths hanging open----and they say----hehn---hehn---hehn jee--phir---O bus jee----phir kee karya---.

could work pressure from the bottom for the top to change things but prob we got is that if we have a arab spring or orange revolution our country has enemies that would take advantage. As I said earlier I had great hopes for Mushy he had the goodwilll of the people when he came in. If he had eliminated benazirs sharifs etc as I said earlier 500 to 1000 corrupt enemies of the state. The rest would have fallen in line,10 to 20 years to stability. maybe 30 then we can start contemplating elections once masses have had access to books etc

Easiest and quickest way would be to get army and isi on side
 
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The army and the isi ARE the PROBLEM....lol...if you get them on your side....then whats the point of it all?
 
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The army and the isi ARE the PROBLEM....lol...if you get them on your side....then whats the point of it all?

problem for Indians. When someone has posted anti pakitsani diatribe then comes on to advise us that army and ISI are bad for pakistan we must listen and do the opposite of what he says,

Anyway let me give you advise go find an italian air hostess to lead 1.2 billion to the promised land
 
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problem for Indians. When someone has posted anti pakitsani diatribe then comes on to advise us that army and ISI are bad for pakistan we must listen and do the opposite of what he says,

Lol....and i am wrong because..? I was just watching the bbc documentary "Secret pakistan" on youtube...pretty interesting....

You know, when the whole world says there is something seriously wrong with your army and the isi....maybe its something to consider....hmm?
 
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Guys stop glorifying our national hero Vcheng lol..no more buttering from kaif and aryan

Vcheng abb bus karhein..
 
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Lol....and i am wrong because..? I was just watching the bbc documentary "Secret pakistan" on youtube...pretty interesting....

You know, when the whole world says there is something seriously wrong with your army and the isi....maybe its something to consider....hmm?

can you give me link of that documentary from BBC i players

and no there is nothing wrong with army.. we cannot blame the whole institution of army because of wrong doings of some army Generals
 
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The army and the isi ARE the PROBLEM....lol...if you get them on your side....then whats the point of it all?

Lol....and i am wrong because..? I was just watching the bbc documentary "Secret pakistan" on youtube...pretty interesting....

You know, when the whole world says there is something seriously wrong with your army and the isi....maybe its something to consider....hmm?

Please don't interference in this thread, be careful. We will ban you permanently. Kindly leave this thread of your off-topics!!

VCheng President! :D
 
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Please don't interference in this thread, be careful. We will ban you permanently. Kindly leave this thread of your off-topics!!

VCheng President! :D

Yes purpose of this thread is to glorify Vcheng and criticise all current Think tanks lol :P
 
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Guys stop glorifying our national hero Vcheng lol..no more buttering from kaif and aryan

Vcheng abb bus karhein..

why whats with you. no ones forcing you on this thread and I was in discussions with MastanKhan before that troll and you came along

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Please don't interference in this thread, be careful. We will ban you permanently. Kindly leave this thread of your off-topics!!

VCheng President! :D

Raptor man come on I was talkin to mastankhan I normally have time for your posts and respect so please back off
 
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