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Agreement Done Myanmar will buy JF-17... Dunya news

And after Myanmar it will be Bulgaria who will sign JF 17 deal.
 
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It will be an achievement even if thunder bags a single order
Let's see how things turn up
2 orders have already been confirmed you Indian troll

No JF 17s for myanmar, they slaughter muslims, they dont need more weapons to do that.
Selling planes is one thing, slaughtering Muslims is other one. If they buy some other planes from some other country then they will stop slaughtering Muslims? Think rationally and be pragmatic.
 
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IHS Janes claims that Myanmar is interested in block 3. Does that mean Block-3 development has reached its final phase?
 
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I agree we should go ahead with the sale and i get that we should not and will not risk our relations with China by trying to block this sale.

I want to know if China reserves the legal right to sell the aircraft if Pakistan does not want to.
No, China won't sell JF17 to a third country if Pakistan doesn't agree. This is a basic understanding.

IHS Janes claims that Myanmar is interested in block 3. Does that mean Block-3 development has reached its final phase?
Of course, ready for production already.
 
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I can't find a single reliable source of Pakistan Myanmar licence building. Reliable means government or defence officials statements. Don't talk about reliable sources from Janes. If there is any please quote for reference.
 
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I can't find a single reliable source of Pakistan Myanmar licence building. Reliable means government or defence officials statements. Don't talk about reliable sources from Janes. If there is any please quote for reference.
dont spoil the festive mood.
 
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@thrilainmanila

#1 It is illegal to post graphic posts
#2 You qouted , statements from a website which does not directly references the Sahih Series (Hadith work), as it lacks the necessary references to issue of illegal immigration / citizenship

The website your qouted your stuff from is based on interpretation work by folks who calaim to be scholars, however they are not authors of Shahih series, normally companions of Prophet etc. Which is why these books (Sahih Series) are more closely followed

There is reason why those idealogies from the interpretation work is not present in Pakistan i.e Full black robes , or women not driving in Pakistan etc and many more

  • People can go read the actual books themselves instead of reading derived work

Proper referencing
"Name of book" 1
In-book reference : Book ######, Hadith #######

There is no mention of any issue related to Illegal immigrants / citizenship cases making sales improper

Certainly no line that talks about Fighter Jets / JF17 thunder or military sales

Sahih al Muslim
Sunan an Nisai
Sunan Abi Dawud
Jami Al Tirmidhi
Sunan Ibn Majah
Muwatta Malik
40 Hadth Nawawi
Riyadh as Salihin
Al Adab Al Mufrad
Hadith Qudsi
Sham'il Al Muhammadiya
Bulugh Al Maram

Go type & Search : "Weapon sales , immigration , Citizenship" get nothing back
https://sunnah.com/



No statement , that states sales of weapons illegal for immigration violation or citizenship issues


JF-17 sales

> Myanmar (Burma) , are for military and not for border control or immigration control purpose
> Nigeria , are for fighting against Boko Haram / Al Qaida
> Senegal (possibly) for helping secure borders from rouge groups

Go type: "Weapon sales , immigration , Citizenship" get nothing back
https://sunnah.com/

  • Weapons sales the site lets you search all books Sahih series. Guess what nothing comes up
  • Similarly nothing comes up for Citizenship issues or Immigration bans, these are now handled at Country level differs nation by nation basis

Any revoke of sale would happen if OIC countries bring a resolution against the issue or Under United nation's security council vote etc


In any case the sale went thru Chinese Side (Problem solved)


Now the issue is Myannamar /Burma's internal issue with dealing with illegal residents (which they claim) , they claim the folks have no nationality etc (which they claim)

Pakistan can't determine the legal status of the folks who may or may not have been effected by the , action of their border security police force.


So really it is up to Security Council or OIC to sit down and review the issue of deportation of certain population in Myannamar , and determine the actual facts and figures

It is a regional country specific issue inside that country as member of the world population we have to await the fact finding mission

As a Pakistani I do care about the cause of refugees


Sir, It is my understanding that Myanmar is Dar-ul-Kufr and Dar-ul-Harb...The plight of not only Muslims but also Non-Muslims is crime against Humanity.

http://www.oic-oci.org/upload/conferences/acm/2015/en/ACM-2015-REP-MYANMAR-E.pdf
http://www.oic-oci.org/docdown/?docID=573&refID=64
http://www.oic-oci.org/docdown/?docID=574&refID=64
http://ww1.oic-oci.org/english/conf/fm/acm2012/REP-ROHINGYA-ENGLISH.pdf

We must stop any form of assistance to myanmar except Humanitarian. The armed sales to Myanmar are in violation of the spirit of UN and OIC. I am not an Islamic scholar so I cannot say much on this complex issue.

The OIC have clearly implied that basic human rights are being deprived by the Government of Myanmar.As a Muslim, it is not difficult to understand what actions/steps are needed to be taken against such inhumane treatment. The Muslims where ever they are are a single nation as also stated by the Two Nation Theory. Your view about this being internal matter is wrong.

Your comment that as the deal went through China also holds little significance because the deal would not go through without the consent of Pakistan. It is foolish to appear innocent just because China is majorly involved.

And yes OIC and UN need to have a vote on this issue to stop armed sales.
 
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Sir, It is my understanding that Myanmar is Dar-ul-Kufr and Dar-ul-Harb...The plight of not only Muslims but also Non-Muslims is crime against Humanity.

http://www.oic-oci.org/upload/conferences/acm/2015/en/ACM-2015-REP-MYANMAR-E.pdf
http://www.oic-oci.org/docdown/?docID=573&refID=64
http://www.oic-oci.org/docdown/?docID=574&refID=64
http://ww1.oic-oci.org/english/conf/fm/acm2012/REP-ROHINGYA-ENGLISH.pdf

We must stop any form of assistance to myanmar except Humanitarian. The armed sales to Myanmar are in violation of the spirit of UN and OIC. I am not an Islamic scholar so I cannot say much on this complex issue.

The OIC have clearly implied that basic human rights are being deprived by the Government of Myanmar.As a Muslim, it is not difficult to understand what actions/steps are needed to be taken against such inhumane treatment. The Muslims where ever they are are a single nation as also stated by the Two Nation Theory. Your view about this being internal matter is wrong.

Your comment that as the deal went through China also holds little significance because the deal would not go through without the consent of Pakistan. It is foolish to appear innocent just because China is majorly involved.

And yes OIC and UN need to have a vote on this issue to stop armed sales.
Bro as you have acknowledged yourself it's a crime against humanity
In that case try to forward your quote to His highness king of Saudi Arabia who is on official
Visit to that particular region
 
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Bro as you have acknowledged yourself it's a crime against humanity
In that case try to forward your quote to His highness king of Saudi Arabia who is on official
Visit to that particular region

with 27 planes and 400 tonnes of luggage including luxury sedans.
 
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Selling planes is one thing, slaughtering Muslims is other one. If they buy some other planes from some other country then they will stop slaughtering Muslims? Think rationally and be pragmatic.


If our Bangladeshi friend had such a Muslim problem then they should have bought JF-17 instead, then Myanmar would not buy them and no one will be using fighter jets to kill few unarmed Rohingyas, these jets can only be somewhat of a threat to Bangladesh.
 
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