Afzal khan and treachery of Shivaji

[INDIC]

I am a South Indian means I am an Indian.In India one way or another Hindus worshiped same gods in different names.That is from Kashmir to Kanyakumari. .We claim Shivaji and also Vedic people .who are you to questioned us about that?

you to understand their mentality, even we speak different languages, we consider ourselves belonging to a historical Indian race thus claim everything that belonged to Indian race but same is not true with Pakistanis, they don't see themselves belonging to a historical race since they have to deny the historical Indian identity of Punjabi-Sindhis and thus their ethnic division is very strong and showing regional aspiration is seen as danger to Pakistani identity.

 

[SrNair]

North Indian bhiayas were not so lucky in 2009 when marathis beat them and expulsed from Maharastra.

When someone did wrong in somewhere that people will be beated by locals it will happen everywhere in the world.It will also happens in kerala or TN.If you did some wrong in our state we will also punish you .But it will end there .Tommorrow when a guy from Maharashtra did same in Bihar same will happens .So what ?
It may happen in vast diversified culture but we dont care about that.If you count on that for some thing you may indeed a dumb

 

[dawn_news]

Ghilzai is confused person with identity crisis. He said that he spits on afghans and dont want to associate with afghanistan. On the other hand is associating himself with ghaur here.
He is so stupid that by calling pritviraj chauhan coward and weak, he is actually reducing the wieght of shahbudin ghauri's final victory over chauhan. If ghauri got defeated in first war then it means chauhan was quite powerful.

You mean Tajik have more claim over then @ghilzai? You keep saying Pakistan didn't exist and guess what Afghanistan also didn't exist back then. Khorasan? And according to you pashtun origin being Balochistan, which mean Afghanistan is basically conquered territory by pashtuns?

 

[SrNair]

you to understand their mentality, even we speak different languages, we consider ourselves belonging to a historical Indian race thus claim everything that belonged to Indian race but same is not true with Pakistanis, they don't see themselves belonging to a historical race since they have to deny the historical Indian identity of Punjabi-Sindhis and thus their ethnic division is very strong and showing regional aspiration is seen as danger to Pakistani identity.

Too right mate.Pakistan creation is based on that hatred .Guys like this "Nuri Nutt" always gave one step high to ethnicity and race than their nationality .He boast about the culture of ancient invading barbarians .Pathetic
He simply cant understand how we Indians always proud about our own culture.I am proud about my culture that has a history of more than 5000 years old.

 

[dawn_news]

Too right mate.Pakistan creation is based on that hatred .Guys like this "Nuri Nutt" always gave one step high to ethnicity and race than their nationality .He boast about the culture of ancient invading barbarians .Pathetic
He simply cant understand how we Indians always proud about our own culture.I am proud about my culture that has a history of more than 5000 years old.

lol 5000 history is only people from pure land can claim that. You are again claiming other people, when will you guys be proud of your roots? At least that turd is posting pictures of South Indian temples to prove how advance they were, i like that.

Also while riots between different ethnic groups in India is quite normal and every day thing. Have you ever heard anything like that in Pakistan? One will have to back couple of decades to see Muhajir vs pathan riots in Karachi. Even these riots were in small scall compared to ones we see in India.

Marathis literarly expulsed every Bhaiya from Maharashtra in 2009. Its expected, unlike Pakistan where every province border other and inbetween there is Indus river which bound us. In India there is no such a thing, hatered between different ethnics is quite normal.

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

You mean Tajik have more claim over then @ghilzai? You keep saying Pakistan didn't exist and guess what Afghanistan also didn't exist back then. Khorasan? And according to you pashtun origin being Balochistan, which mean Afghanistan is basically conquered territory by pashtuns?

Untill 1878, koh sulieman region was part of Afghanistan and it was part of khorasan. So expanding from one part of khorasan to another, is not conquering another country. Moreover the expansion took place very long time ago. Ghuristan was the abode of suris, and the first pashto poet amir kror suri was in 7th century. Ghaur/ghauristan is in central afghanistan. Ancestor of shahabudin ghauri, mohammad ibn suri also belonged to ghuristan. Too bad this population of pashtuns was completely destroyed by mongols. My point is that dont assume that there were no pashtuns in southren, central and eastren afghanistan before islam. At the time of alexander, pashtuns or proto pashtuns were living in the region stretching between koh sulieman and kandahar and had already expanded to eastren afghanistan.
Afghanistan came into being in 1708 and as a state it was founded in 1747 so it is 250 years older than pakistan. As khorasan, its history is very ancient.

 

[ghilzai]

You mean Tajik have more claim over then @ghilzai? You keep saying Pakistan didn't exist and guess what Afghanistan also didn't exist back then. Khorasan? And according to you pashtun origin being Balochistan, which mean Afghanistan is basically conquered territory by pashtuns?

People like @Pak-one ride on the success of my people, they don't have much to show for themselves.

No doubt he is one of us but he is not a ghilzai and doesn't know the meaning of the word loyalty to his Watan.

He can be thankful that he has always been free thanks to the ghilzais the swordsmen.

 

[dawn_news]

Ghakkars of potohar were enemies of Afghans. They supported babur and then hamayun against Afghans. Sher shah suri built rohtas fort to keep eye on them, his son islam shah crushed them mercilessly. They were in good shape during mughal times , on behalf of mughals they fought many wars with turbulent afghans on other side of indus. They tried to put up resistance against afghans of abdali but were crushed and destroyed , relieving pressure from niazi pashtuns who were enemies of ghakkars. They sided with ranjeet singh against their historical enemy pashtuns/afghans.
Kayanis are ghakkars, they are in very large number in pak army.
@Nuri Natt @Multani

Pakistani Punjabi Janjuas and ghakkars also has been enemies of each other. I don't know why you are using historical enmity to prove your point? Did you forget that some pashtuns tribes supported Mughals?

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

People like @Pak-one ride on the success of my people, they don't have much to show for themselves.

No doubt he is one of us but he is not a ghilzai and doesn't know the meaning of the word loyalty to his Watan.

He can be thankful that he has always been free thanks to the ghilzais the swordsmen.

According to history of pashtuns, in the love story of shah hussain and bibi mato, ghiljay was born out of wedlock. Their second son, who was born after marraige, was named loy-da, the great one i.e lodhi. We lodhis have always looked down upon ghiljays

Pakistani Punjabi Janjuas and ghakkars also has been enemies of each other. I don't know why you are using historical enmity to prove your point? Did you forget that some pashtuns tribes supported Mughals?

I gave further explaination to @INDIC's post in which he mentioned that ghauri got assassinated by ghakkars.

 

[dawn_news]

I gave further explaination to @INDIC's post in which he mentioned that ghauri got assassinated by ghakkars.

Oh ok.

Anyway its not even proven who killed him, some say ghakkars others khokars.

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

Oh ok.

Anyway its not even proven who killed him, some say ghakkars others khokars.

I have also read some where that khokars killed him.
Ghakkar's uprising was crushed by ghauri but it is also a fact that they converted to islam due to ghauri so i dont understand why they would want to assassinate him. It must be khokars who are hindus at that time.

 

[dawn_news]

I have also read some where that khokars killed him.
Ghakkar's uprising was crushed by ghauri but it is also a fact that they converted to islam due to ghauri so i dont understand why they would want to assassinate him. It must be khokars who are hindus at that time.

Not every punjabi become muslim over night, it was gradual process. Which continued till 1947. Hindu population kept declining, first by Islam and later Sikhsm.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Ofcourse it was passed down to your kind. Adamenese island people couldn't even light a fire own their own till 20th century when British found them. Pakistan have dozens of these useless ancient temples. As i said use them as toilets so it may bring down % of people with toilets. Temples for few elites who build them to take advanatge of 95% of poors, especially girls isnt anything to be proud of.

The most amazing temple was build at Multan named Sun temple, which was destroyed by invaders. Nothing was comparable to it in whole South Asia. Again nothing to be proud of either.

In other parts of the world there was no caste system, its Indian exclusive.

The people who created the Mauryans, Guptas, etc, etc. or those arts arent Adamenese island people. That makes no sense what so ever. Here you go again with your inferior complex having racism.

Pakistan doesnt have anything in the last 2000 years. Because you were constantly subjugated and ruined by your neighbors. Whether it be the Huns, Persians, Parthians, Kushans, Afghans, Turks, etc, etc, etc. they all had their way with your "pure" land. The best temples and Indic architecture are in S. India, Central India, Deccan and in S.E. Asia.

Most structures around the world back then were built for few elites and by the powerful. That's reality back then.

 

[INDIC]

According to history of pashtuns, in the love story of shah hussain and bibi mato, ghiljay was born out of wedlock. Their second son, who was born after marraige, was named loy-da, the great one i.e lodhi. We lodhis have always looked down upon ghiljays .

Is this folklore of Shah Hussain and Bibi Mato real. I once talked to an Afghan guy, he was denying any sort of Turkish ancestry among Afghans perhaps based on genetic test.

 

[Srinivas]

The people who created the Mauryans, Guptas, etc, etc. or those arts arent Adamenese island people. That makes no sense what so ever. Here you go again with your inferior complex having racism.

Pakistan doesnt have anything in the last 2000 years. Because you were constantly subjugated and ruined by your neighbors. Whether it be the Huns, Persians, Parthians, Kushans, Afghans, Turks, etc, etc, etc. they all had their way with your "pure" land. The best temples and Indic architecture is in S. India, Central India, Deccan and in S.E. Asia.

Most structures around the world back then were built for few elites and by the power. That's reality back then.

He believes in Aryan invasion fantasy and racial purity .... etc...etc....

For him every Indian especially south Indians are aboriginals ....

He won't present references or citations either !