Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft [AMCA] Development | Updates & Discussions.

[Han Patriot]

Hi @Han Patriot
Kindly first learn to talk properly. Go and attend a few seminars on gas turbine research and in case you're in doubt do read up the comments of russian engineers posted at Gromov. I know you cant sneak out much info from CPC. What I wanted to say was that back in 2010 or 12(I seem to forget the year) when kaveri and WS-13 went to Gromov,our engine performed much better than Ws-13--and it is a FACT--whether you want to digest it or not is entirely inconsequential.Also Note,I do not know the current status of chinese engine. I suspect they might have improved the engine.

A picture of the Il-76 engine testbed landing at CFTE is shown here. The aircraft was modified from a former Russian Il-76SKIP/Be-976 missile tracking aircraft (S/N RA-76456). The modification including the removal of the radar system took place in 2004 at the LII Flight Research Institute and the aircraft was handed over to China in mid-2005.

So I am supposed to believe an Indian 'FACT' now? Only the 'competent' Indians would try to develop an engine without first making sure there is an engine test bed. This is just an Il-76 based test bed, we also have H-6 based test bed for older engines. Btw, the testbed was already ready in 2005, extrapolate this genius!



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This shows how un-educated and ignorant you are really are. india have been license producing jet engines for a very very long time. Do pay a visit to HAL museum in bangalore and you'd know. India also have had various indigenous gas turbine programs. Kaveri is neither first nor last!
In fact first indigenous engine that india designed was manufactured was in 1960s --HJE-2500. I am sure you can google it out--oh wait,isnt it banned in your country?

Yup I fully understand that the definition of licensed production in India means screw driver and sticker tech. Read my comment again, I specifically used the word 'successful', tell me how many indigenous engine was ever used on any aircraft at all. You can make half baked prototypes and declare it successful.

You are really funny. You spare no chance to "extrapolate" pieces of news information to satisfy your ego. I dont have any problem with that,however kindly do "read" that information many times over to understand what it was trying to establish.
FYI,india has NOT unveiled any computer with speeds you're mentioning above--it is just that india has serious intent of producing one at home.And how do you "gauge" seriousness? Well it is gauged by the intention of govt to shell out dollars! And this time,Indian govt is coming out with some serious dollars to invest in this field.Thats all!

LOL, India have always had the intention, however the results remain to be seen.

 

[HariPrasad]

Guys,

Can we just let them dream? At least they can have some hope. Do you know the amount of grape juice flowing out of their nostrils when they saw J-20, the first time? If we didn't show them that, they would have taken their own sweet time.

Be prepared for 20 years of testing and modifications.

Here we are discussing about fifth generation. Plane. J20 is not a fifth generation plane so do not discuss that here OK.

 

[#hydra#]

Here we are discussing about fifth generation. Plane. J20 is not a fifth generation plane so do not discuss that here OK.

How do you know that? ,Its always better to overestimate enemy capabilities than underestimating. That's how uncle sam developed f15 by seeing mig25

 

[Kinetic]

How do you know that? ,Its always better to overestimate enemy capabilities than underestimating. That's how uncle sam developed f15 by seeing mig25

U r right. But will u accept a Samsung or Vivo?

 

[HariPrasad]

How do you know that? ,Its always better to overestimate enemy capabilities than underestimating. That's how uncle sam developed f15 by seeing mig25

Because this plane has no component of fifth generation plane

 

[#hydra#]

Because this plane has no component of fifth generation plane

On what basis you are telling?

 

[HariPrasad]

On what basis you are telling?

It is not stealth. It has junk engine. It can fly fast. It has junk weapons. Junk radar and sensors and no sensor fusion and be agility. Tell me something which can match f22.

 

[X_Killer]

It is not stealth. It has junk engine. It can fly fast. It has junk weapons. Junk radar and sensors and no sensor fusion and be agility. Tell me something which can match f22.

They mentioned it as 5th Generation fighter (overplayed by China), it means we (India) have to develop more potent and highly advanced 5th generation fighter and than downplay it to force them to shout about its original capabilities.
Just like we already did in the case of Agni-5 ICBM. We mentioned it as a 5000km ranged ICBM but Chinese are shouting that it has the effective range of 8000kms.

Take chill pill and move on....

 

[#hydra#]

It is not stealth. It has junk engine. It can fly fast. It has junk weapons. Junk radar and sensors and no sensor fusion and be agility. Tell me something which can match f22.

Who told you all these,AFAIK Chinese didn't reveal much details other than the where about of engine. I don't believe in eye ball stealth analysis too. Also it's a military fighter,not a toy. No military in the world,that too a military like Chinese whose aspiring to beat uncle Sam won't induct shitty things .

 

[HariPrasad]

If you

Who told you all these,AFAIK Chinese didn't reveal much details other than the where about of engine. I don't believe in eye ball stealth analysis too. Also it's a military fighter,not a toy. No military in the world,that too a military like Chinese whose aspiring to beat uncle Sam won't induct shitty things .

If you believe something, keep believing it. I do not mind. I said why it is not fifth generation plane.

 

[#hydra#]

If you

If you believe something, keep believing it. I do not mind. I said why it is not fifth generation plane.

You speculate about its capabilities and comes to a conclusion.

 

[Shajida Khan]

They mentioned it as 5th Generation fighter (overplayed by China), it means we (India) have to develop more potent and highly advanced 5th generation fighter and than downplay it to force them to shout about its original capabilities.
Just like we already did in the case of Agni-5 ICBM. We mentioned it as a 5000km ranged ICBM but Chinese are shouting that it has the effective range of 8000kms.

Take chill pill and move on....

You know sometimes back, USA made Russians believe that they were massively ahead of Russians in few critical areas like space and missiles etc. This was called the 'Gap' period. This was well played in Kubric's movie Dr Strangelove Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb. Russians ended up making some spectacular achievements in those areas but in the end destroyed their economy.

Do not follow your enemy and let it lead you. Fight it where you choose to fight it.

Look at Pakistan, India is around 6-7 times bigger than them but they are managing to hold India off for most of the parts by acquiring essential and good counters to what India has cheaply. We need to do the same wrt China.

 

[bloo]

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[Water Car Engineer]

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[Water Car Engineer]

Radar Absorbing Skin

Resistive capacitive layers of CJA are developed as electrically thin printed circuit boards and integrated with alternating low loss, low density foam dielectric spacers backed by metallic conducting plane. Size of panel CJA is 280 mm × 280 mm. Fabricated panel CJA is evaluated for radar cross section (RCS) performance in microwave anechoic chamber. Matching results are obtained in simulation and measurements. The reduced thickness, low weight, UWB CJA finds application in RCS reduction of air vehicles/unmanned air vehicle.