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Admiral Noman happy with F22P performance wants more ships from China

waitting for pakistan navy to sign the deal for some bigger ships than smaller which we need destroyers has br the choice we have got too many frigates evem OHP frigates arrive in few days
 
waitting for pakistan navy to sign the deal for some bigger ships than smaller which we need destroyers has br the choice we have got too many frigates evem OHP frigates arrive in few days

4 F22P currently, working up + 1 OHP coming this august (the next likely in 2 years time, based on USN planned decommissioning schedule). You will be seeing ex UK Type 21s starting to be decommissioned in the not too distant future i.e. no immediate increase in the number of frigates in PN.
 
chines FAC colour scame is horrible but boat look advance,PN need to show chinese how to do paint job or they can learn from west.

yeah,you are right about the color scame.
take a look at the aircrafts in PLAA, you will find the ships are already much better.

so many weapons just don't nice on pictures.

and the problem is not we aren't capable to paint it better(the FC-1 are made and paint in China,and they looks much better), PLA just don't do it.

just hope our weapons could be more good looking when they are becoming more and more advanced.:china:
 
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yeah,you are right about the color scame.
take a look at the aircrafts in PLAA, you will find the ships are already much better.

so many weapons just don't nice on pictures.

and the problem is not we aren't capable to paint it better(the FC-1 are made and paint in China,and they looks much better), PLA just don't do it.

just hope our weapons could be more good looking when they are becoming more and more advanced.:china:


JFTs arent made in china bro nor are they painted there!!
Half parts are made in PAC Kamra,Painted and assembles in Pakistan also.
 
waitting for pakistan navy to sign the deal for some bigger ships than smaller which we need destroyers has br the choice we have got too many frigates evem OHP frigates arrive in few days

sir both are meant for different roles. infact with no real aim toturn into blue water navy, the Missile crafts, Frigates and corvettes are of high value for PN.:pakistan:

but yes, as discussed earlier, the Type 022 might not be the one the thread is actually about, the sepcs required menas a bigger platform, either then this one!!

regards!
 
Okay, so there were supposed to be deals for 3 Submarines and 4000 ton frigates/destroyers......any details on that??

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sir both are meant for different roles. infact with no real aim toturn into blue water navy, the Missile crafts, Frigates and corvettes are of high value for PN.:pakistan:

but yes, as discussed earlier, the Type 022 might not be the one the thread is actually about, the sepcs required menas a bigger platform, either then this one!!

regards!


I think corvettes are a better bet than FACs........they offer more space for wider variety of weapons...
 
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Military Strategy
Pakistan to acquire 4000 ton class Frigates
July 22, 2010 in Pakistan



The Pakistan Navy will be acquiring Type 054 (NATO Codename JIANGKAI I) 4000 ton type of frigates from China.

As India’s domestic carrier with submarines and plans to expedite the Indian Navy, Pakistan Navy’s technological advantage is rapidly widening. In such a situation, Pakistan’s new love Chinese frigate is also reasonable Moreover, Europe and the United States and Russia are flirting with India, Pakistan does not want to offend the export of advanced warships and New Delhi. In contrast, relations between China and Pakistan is not only strong, and the Chinese Type 054 frigate design and construction of the same world-class level, the prices are much cheaper and more suited to limited financial resources of the Pakistani Army. Recently, the Pakistan domestic media coverage of the sharp rise in 054-type, apart from introducing a large number of its performance, the greater is the expectation of an early ship.

The Gulf of Aden to escort is the best advertising

Western military experts have also generated interest in 054-class escort. The United States “sea power” magazine editor 乔治麦凯伦 believe that China’s naval fleet strength of the Gulf of Aden to escort the composition of the transition from the first two destroyers, a destroyer to the second installment plus a 054-class escort, to the third All replaced by two 054-type frigate, this arrangement is definitely not random, shows that the Chinese Navy began a comprehensive review of 054 ocean-type frigate’s combat capabilities. McLaren said: “China dare to let go and let the smaller tonnage commitment to convoy escort task, showing that China is full of confidence in its performance. In fact, more than 054 types of tonnage to the 051 early Chinese destroyer, with 15 in service 052 years ago, destroyer equal, long-distance capability is not weak. ”

Hong Kong’s “Asia-Pacific Defense” magazine has written that China sent 054 class destroyer escort, as the main, one of the aims is to potential foreign customers, “advertising.” Previously, it is difficult to see the ocean on a cruise ship in China for the performance of Chinese manufacturers of warships propaganda in doubt, but now you can see the actual performance of the Chinese frigate. If the 054-type can accomplish very well escort action, it will greatly improve Chinese warships in the international market, the impression points, and thus attract a large number of customers.

The Type 054 is successor to the Jiangwei and Jianghu class frigates of the People’s Liberation Army Navy. It has been compared to the French La Fayette class frigate. The 4,000 ton (estimated) Type 054 incorporates many stealth features: sloped hull design; radar absorbent materials; and reduction of surface equipment and features.

The main weapon is two four-cell launchers with the YJ-83 sea-skimming anti-shipcruise missile. It also has an eight-cell launcher with the HQ-7 SAM, which is an improved version of the French Crotale missile. The HQ-7 system has 8 ready to fire missiles, plus 16 stored in the automatic reloader. There is a helicopter flight deck at the stern. It also has a 100 mm main gun and four AK-630 CIWS turrets.

BEIJING, July 22 (APP): Pakistan Navy is very satisfied with the performance of the F-22P frigate it bought from China and hopes to further the cooperation with the nation, said Admiral Noman Bashir, Pakistan’s Chief of Naval Staff. Two of the four F-22P frigates it ordered are already in service in Pakistan Navy, with the third one scheduled to be commissioned on September 15 this year. It is also expected that all the four ships will be in service by 2013. “We are very happy with the performance, and some technology is as good as in Western countries,” the China Daily quoted Admiral Noman Bashir, who visited China four times last year.

Pakistan also hopes to buy bigger ships with more firepower from China, such as 4,000 ton class frigates.
Pakistan has proposed to develop strategic maritime cooperation with China in both military and commercial sects, such as in fishery, economic development zones, and cargo, he said.

“The friendship between China and Pakistan is greater than the Himalayas and deeper than the Ocean. We already made progress in air force and other areas, now we should further and expand the cooperation in Navy, a broadly-based relation.”

Pakistan’s strategic geographical location in the Arabian Sea and its long coastline mean its possible contribution to the missions of China’s navy, particularly under the context of energy need from the Persian Gulf, said Pakistan officials.

Pakistan also has rich experiences in countering illegal activities at sea in order to maintain maritime security, four ships participated in anti-piracy operations, and there has been no act of maritime terrorism in its region in the recent past.
“We can provide facilities, ports, logistics, maintenance among other things (to Chinese navy),” said a Pakistan navy official.

Pakistan hopes to buy more ships from China, UK and France according to its development plan
 
There will be no 054A in foreseeable future. Chinese shipyard has fully geared to meet the demand of PLA Navy. For the time being, it is difficult for these researchers and engineers to design another ship for Pakistan based on 054A.
The next batch of F22P will be installed with HQ-16 (possible. If there will be any change, HQ-16 has the largest possibility.)
 
How much is the F22P costing, does anyone know?

Well the contract signed was for 750M$$ for the 4 ships, 6 helicopters, i believe limited ammo was also included, transfer of tech for the 4th ship to be built in Pakistan.

Thus everything included gives us a 188M$$ per ship price.
 
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