Act against JuD or face sanctions, US tells Pakistan

[Skywalker]

I think the leadership is also named and shamed..so same people going to any organisation would also come under ban umbrella..!



I know it well...it doesnt take a genius to eliminate Malik Ishaq ...the fact that it is being done slowly with a lot of pomp and show at cost of tax payer money is a questionable matter. The state is powerless to even control the mumtaz qadri crowd and stop construction of his shrine...when governments cannot impose the law of land..its called a failed state...!




Terrorism is one of the exports of Pakistan and the state answer to uncontrolled terrorism is so called sanctions of the 90s...well guess what...there has been no sanctions on wards from 2001 and massive forigen aid has been contributed to fight terrorism...and the results are not tangible..three army chief have retired fighting terrorism with a lot of pomp...and zero result..do you understand the implication if a country cannot deplete man and material pools of terrorist for 15 friggin years of continuous fight? Terrorism did not dawn upon us from an alien land..it was very much created as a state machinery..and therefore the pool will not deplete...because for every terrorist eliminated...there are ten ready to take the role..

India, Africa and a boat load of other countries have far more impoverishment and poverty..they do not have rampant terrorism like Pakistan!

Terrorism in Pakistan is first and foremost..Pakistani problem..the highest suffering of man and material losses to terrorism in borne by Pakistani citizens..the shameless establishment en cashes it on global political stage as more aid and funding to fight terrorism..

Stfu bozo...lecturing us from a country who brought us to this stage.

 

[Politico]

pakistan arrested HS...now where r all the chest thumping pakistani monkeys on this forum ??

 

[somebozo]

Stfu bozo...lecturing us from a country who brought us to this stage.

To give an idea of our "competent" government..Nawaz is just a mullah with beard in his stomach..he had sold the religion to the public and stashed his wealth in London...


The Fifteenth Amendment bill to the Constitution of Pakistan (Urdu: آئین پاکستان میں پندرھویں ترمیم) was Passed by National Assembly of Pakistan on 28 August 1998. It was then moved to the Senate where it was never passed.

Addition of new Article 2B in the Constitution: In the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, hereinafter referred to as the said Constitution, after Article 2A, the following new Article shall be inserted, namely: 2B

• The Holy Quran and Sunnah of the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) shall be the supreme law of Pakistan.Explanation:- In the application of this clause to the personal law of any Muslim sect, the expression "Quran and Sunnah" shall mean the Quran and Sunnah as interpreted by that sect.
• The Federal Government shall be under an obligation to take steps to enforce the Shariah, to establish salat, to administer zakat, to promote amr bil ma'roof and nahi anil munkar (to prescribe what is right and to forbid what is wrong), to eradicate corruption at all levels and to provide substantial socio-economic justice, in accordance with the principles of Islam, as laid down in the Holy Quran and Sunnah.
• The Federal Government may issue directives for the implementation of the provisions set out in clauses (1) and (2) and may take the necessary action against any state functionary for non-compliance of the said directives.
• Nothing contained in this Article shall affect the personal law, religious freedom, traditions or customs of non-Muslims and their status as citizens.
• The provisions of this Article shall have effect notwithstanding anything contained in the Constitution, any law or judgement of any Court".

Amendment of Article 239 of the Constitution:In the Constitution, in Article 239, after clause (3) the following new clauses shall be inserted, namely:

• (3A), Notwithstanding anything contained in clauses (1) to (3), a Bill to amend the Constitution providing for the removal of any impediment in the enforcement of any matter relating to Shariah and the implementation of the Injunctions of Islam may originate in either House and shall, if it is passed by a majority of the members voting in the House in which it originated, be transmitted to the other House; and if the Bill is passed without amendment by the majority of the members voting in the other House also, it shall be presented to the President for assent.
• (3B), If a Bill transmitted to a House under clause (3A) is rejected or is not passed within ninety days of its receipt or is passed with amendment it shall be considered in a joint sitting.
• (3C), If the Bill is passed by a majority of the members voting in the joint sitting, with or without amendment, it shall be presented to the President for assent.
• (3D), The President shall assent to the Bill presented to him under clause (3A) or clause (3C) within seven days of the presentation of the Bill".

 

[xyxmt]

What would US do once they loose the effects of their sanctions, which is probably going to happen within 10 years.

 

[Verve]

These sanctions threats are to the ruling elite who have stashed billions in West.

Americans want a military takeover so doing all they can to speed up internal rifts. Liberal fascists front (through traitor media houses) is wide open as well. This is the continuation of the 1998 policy of defaming Pak Army and turn public against this institution.

Anti-PakArmy narrative that India and USA want to build is exposed and a military takeover is highly unlikely. These puppet governments will be phased out by other means but not by a military takeover.

 

[graphican]

This stupidity of Pakistani political mentality that they think they can find red carpet welcome in Russia and China..first Russia is far closer to India for embracing Pakistan and secondly Russia does not offer much in terms of trade potential needed by Pakistan....China itself is a close trade partner of US and heavily dependent on USD..it is stupid to assume that China would jeopardize its own economy and political clout with US...???

A sanctioned Pakistan is a bad Pakistan..lets aviod it at all cost..!

Teenagers shouldn't come to this forum and pomp China, Russia, China, Russia, China, Russia, endlessly!
Grasp reality of global geo-politics.!

A nation whose political and millitary leadership enjous the comfort of London, NewYork and Dubai..they have little to no incentive in taking such issues seriously...they will sell sentiments and emotions to the nation...hoard as much money can...retire to life of comfort in US , London or take a short trip to Dubai..!

If you want to bring stability and accountability to Pakistan...the audit has to start from its armed forced...its been too long..selling the chooran of patriotism..nobody seems to raise the question of common sense..that how did such massive terrorist infrastructure sneak under the nose of 7th largest army and 1st intelligence agency? Offcourse it sneaked with tactic approval of military and a log of generals minted money now stashed overseas...

USA has just sanctioned Pakistani research institutes. If "avoid sanctions at all costs" is the "best policy", why don't you give up everything which USA dislikes and disapproves? Ever heard of a name "Shakeel Afridi" ? He too is responsible for the sanctions on your country as Pakistan's support fund is being cut equal to number of years he is in prison. Would you not want to set him free because that too is sanctioning your country?

You seem to have too much anger and too much hatred for everything. You are not happy from politicians, not happy the Pakistan is handling relationship with USA, not happy the way Army is acting. Would you want to take a break and compose yourself, try to say one thing at a time so it is more visible and less lost in your cloud hatred.

 

[lonelyman]

He gave the speech in hindi so how did you understand it?
Anyways...just in case you missed it- Modi in his speech also called for the PAKISTANI citizens to rise against the terrorists within their country. Lol

So smarty Indian genius, according to you Chinese president will not be understood by westerners because he always speak in Chinese.

 

[Levina]

So smarty Indian genius, a

Ahem!
Thanks.

, according to you Chinese president will not be understood by westerners because he always speak in Chinese.

Ideally speaking yes, nobody outside China will understand Xi-Ping...unless someone translates his speeches.

 

[jupiter2007]

What has Pakistan achieved by supporting terrorist organizations? A bad international image leading to a weak economy, add to that it's like sitting on a time-bomb you don't know when these scums will turn against you.

You and your stupid comments. Have you been sleeping for last five years? Or drunk with cow piss?
Whole FATA has been clean from terrorist camps, thousands of lives were lost and thosands of IDPs in camps.

 

[somebozo]

Why dont u be a man and come outta the closet n declare that ur an indian, what does pretending to be a pakistani accomplishes i wonder...

A nation is psychologically damaged beyond repair when its citizens think that any opposing point of view or criticism is an act of treason or disloyalty. The delusional nations want to live in utopia of perfection..

You and your stupid comments. Have you been sleeping for last five years? Or drunk with cow piss?
Whole FATA has been clean from terrorist camps, thousands of lives were lost and thosands of IDPs in camps.

Bigger question? how did it all get there??? right under the nose of several governments and seventh largest armed force, first intelligence agency in the world?? it means either the agency lost control over its assets..or they were complicit?

 

[Solomon2]

Isn't there still a ten million dollar reward offered by the U.S. for evidence leading to H.S.'s conviction? Has anyone claimed it yet?

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Isn't there still a ten million dollar reward offered by the U.S. for evidence leading to H.S.'s conviction? Has anyone claimed it yet?

That was silly thing to say by America. Even Hafiz Saeed was laughing at it. Americans wanted to know his whereabouts. He was on national tele joking about it telling his address in Lahore.

He is in protective custody as there were Intel reports about danger to his life from Indian RAW goons. I hope ISI is waterboarding these vermons and getting more info out about how deep rabbit holes goes.

Personally I think it's all related to recent American strikes in Yemen in which many innocents civilians were killed. Indian Ajeet Doval was meeting with new American administration security high ups recently. If CIA is also involved, we will know soon.

 

[jupiter2007]

A nation is psychologically damaged beyond repair when its citizens think that any opposing point of view or criticism is an act of treason or disloyalty. The delusional nations want to live in utopia of perfection..



Bigger question? how did it all get there??? right under the nose of several governments and seventh largest armed force, first intelligence agency in the world?? it means either the agency lost control over its assets..or they were complicit?

That whole region is in a big mess for quit some time due to situation in Afghanistan.
These kind of incidents have reduced significantly due to border control and zero free movement of people between the Afghanistan and Pakistan. This is all part of National Action plan by Pakistani Army.

 

[Musafir117]

Ban JuD as well put sanctions as well please. All win win situation.

 

[Zen0]

11 years too late