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A wrong model in Israel
Sana Quadri, July 2, 2017
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In July, Narendra Modi will become the first Indian Prime Minister to visit Israel. Reaching this level of diplomatic engagement is long overdue, since Israel has become the third-largest arms supplier to India.
The defense ties between the two nations also encompass counter-terrorism, cyber security, homeland security, border management, and intelligence sharing. In the midst of improved bilateral relations and with the escalation of tensions in Indian-administered Kashmir and intermittent border clashes with Pakistan, calls for India to follow the Israeli playbook in dealing with these challenges are getting louder. However, there are some glaring issues with this approach. Why would India mirror the strategy of Israel, an area that has remained in crisis for 70 years, as a model to control a disputed territory with the potential of becoming a nuclear flashpoint? Not only has Israel been unsuccessful in its approach, but the circumstances of the Israel-Palestine conflict and those of the Kashmir issue lack similarity, further bringing this proposal into question. Thus, India seeking a role model in Israel is thoroughly inadvisable.

Rising Tensions in Kashmir
Civilian and military deaths in Kashmir are increasingly concerning. 2016 has been the worst year for Army deaths in Jammu & Kashmir since 2008. The death toll, now at 60, has almost doubled from 33 deaths in 2015. The Uri attack last September claimed the largest number of army personnel lives in a single day for nearly two decades. Narendra Modi is being hailed for his “muscular” response, despite the fact that continuous cross-border firing has resulted in significant Pakistani civilian casualties . However, neither the government nor the media has stepped back to consider why the situation in Jammu and Kashmir has seemingly regressed. Bilaterally, relations have deteriorated to the point that India no longer considers Pakistan a stakeholder in the resolution of the Kashmir issue. This was illustrated in 2015when Pakistan called off high-level talks because India refused to include Kashmir in the agenda. As per India, the aim of the National Security Advisor (NSA)-level talks was to only discuss ceasefire violations and terrorism. But one cannot negate Kashmir when it is, in effect, the main cause for these transgressions in the first place.

Israel as a Model: Implications
In an interview with The Quint conducted after two Indian soldiers were beheaded on the Line of Control (LOC) on May 1, a reporter asked defense analyst Ajai Shukla what Israel may have done in a similar situation. The retired colonel responded by pointing out the glaring differences between the Israeli and Indian situations. Israel is the strongest military power in the region, and its main adversaries are much weaker, non-state actors in the neighborhood. In India’s case, the conflict is between two established, nuclear-armed state actors. Shukla then logically concluded: “So the minute India exerts pressure beyond a point on Pakistan, there will be a nuclear threat and that changes the game quite radically.” Israel’s military supremacy combined with its economic advantages isolates the country within its immediate neighborhood. India, however, cannot afford to increase hostilities with its two major neighbors, China and Pakistan, especially given the increasingly strong diplomatic and economic relations between the two. Therefore, seeking a role model in Tel Aviv at this juncture is not advisable.

The desire to emulate Israel is also evident from an article titled “Lessons from Tel Aviv for Prime Minister Narendra Modi” published late last month in the Indian Express. The writer, a Senior Fellow at the Institute of Peace & Conflict Studies, argues that India should follow a carrot-and-stick approach like the one employed by Tel Aviv to counter acts of terrorism and control a “disturbed” territory: Kashmir. However, if Israel had been successful in applying this approach, it should not have needed to engage in a 50-day war with Palestinians in Gaza in 2014. The murder of three Israeli teenagers in the occupied territory of the West Bank is what sparked the war, resulting in the death of 490 Palestinian children and claiming the lives of 64 Israeli soldiers. This should not be an acceptable price to pay to maintain a state’s security.

Conclusion
The conflict in Kashmir has been drawn out considerably, and little progress has been made in coming to a permanent resolution. If India’s goal is indeed to find a long-term solution to the crisis and establish peace in the region, then using Israel as a role model is not a good place to start. Over 700,000 Indian army personnel are stationed in Kashmir, making it the most militarized zone in the world. For every eight Kashmiris there is one Indian soldier. Besides their disputed status and heightened police presence, the Kashmir region and Israel-Palestine have little in common. Alternatively, the Sri Lankan army’s brutal repression of the Tamil insurgency in 2009 is perhaps a more successful and closer-to-home example that can be followed, though this observation may be culturally and morally taboo in India, especially for many on the Hindu Right. Nevertheless, consciously taking a different approach towards its disputed territory than that of Israel is perhaps what will make India a successful template to follow, rather than the other way round.

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http://southasianmonitor.com/2017/07/02/wrong-model-israel/
 
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Intimacy with Israel scares Indian Muslims
P K Balachandran, July 5, 2017

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Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi got a rousing reception when he landed in Tel Aviv on Tuesday. Stepping down from the aircraft, Modi gave his Israeli counterpart, Benjamin Netanyahu, two hugs to signify extra close brotherhood. The entire Israeli cabinet was at the airport to receive him, an honor given only to the US President and the Pope.

Modi’s three-day visit is historic inasmuch as it is the first by an Indian prime minister since full diplomatic relations were established in 1992. A number of deals are expected to be finalized, principally on defense cooperation (purchase of equipment), counter-terrorism, agricultural development and water management.

However, while India needs Israeli weaponry and expertise in the face of the ever-present threat from Pakistan over the Kashmir issue, and a looming threat from China over a revived border dispute, there is a danger of Indians being influenced by Israeli thinking on the Muslim minority.

The 179.8 million Muslims in India are already under heavy stress because of the unofficial license given to Hindutva storm troopers to lynch them for eating beef or allegedly transporting “holy” cows for slaughter. Muslims are also suspected to be the ISIS or Pakistani agents.

If the Indian state acquires the intelligence apparatus and counter-terrorism techniques of the Israelis, the already marginalized, oppressed and demoralized Muslim minority will feel further alienated. The young, who are now timid and peace loving, may take to arms as Mariyam Khatun, the widow of lynched Alimuddin of Chattisgarh, warned earlier this week. Alimuddin, who was coal trader, was mistaken for a cattle trader, and lynched.

Defense Ties

With the non-aligned movement becoming moribund in the 1990s, India shed the fig leaf of being “non-aligned”, distanced itself from the Palestinian cause, and warmed up to Israel. India also stopped depending upon Soviet/Russian supplies for its military, and started looking to the West for equipment.

Meanwhile, Israel had become a major arms manufacturerin the world, and India a major buyer of arms. India was the second biggest arms buyer in the world between 2008 and 2014, notching up purchases totaling US$ 34 billion, second only to Saudi Arabia.

Israeli arms sales to India now totals US$ 9 billion and is set to grow exponentially. According to the Israeli media, the two countries have been going into defense deals worth US$ 1 billion each year.

Also Read: India, Israel and Palestine: A triangle that does not sum up

It is reported that the government-owned Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) had said that India would buy nearly US $2billion worth of weapons technology, making it Israel’s largest defense contract till date. The deal will see IAI provide India with an advanced defense system of medium-range surface-to-air missiles, launchers and communications technology. IAI later announced a deal worth US $630m to provide India’s navy with missile defense systems.The Israeli long-range surface-to-air missiles, including Barak 8, will be useful to shoot down anti-ship missiles at ranges up to 70km.

Israel’s defense deals have included components that will be assembled in India.There are also deals for joint development of weapon systems.

Technology and Skills Matching

Israel is a manufacturer of weapon “sub-systems” and not whole systems. This poses problems for buyers who use weapon systems of other countries. Israeli parts do not always fit weapons systems made in other countries. In India’s case, marrying Israeli parts with Soviet weaponry is a major challenge.

Abhijit Iyer Mitra, Senior Fellow at the Institute of Peace and Conflict Studies, New Delhi, has said in a recent paper, that India has no demonstrated expertise in such integration.

“India does not have institutions that teach systems integration. Adding to this – Israeli weapons thrive in the small to medium sector ecosystem due to a highly volatile market and constantly changing threats and the consequent need to innovate rapidly. But India’s defense SMEs are virtually non-existent and where they exist, they are neither empowered, nor are they earmarked for technology research and development. Israel also does not share source-codes for any product that has to be integrated with Russian systems for security reasons,” Mitra pointed out.

Giving an example, he said: “The naval MF-STAR radar and long range Barak missile which India paid for, and was meant to co-develop, are manufactured wholly in Israel, India having failed miserably in its development share.”

“Even where technology has been transferred as in the case of gallium arsenide chips for radars, Indian AWACS radars have shown abysmal performance since India’s atrocious engineering talent pool cannot develop the matching signal processing algorithms.”

Also Read: Israeli-Indian ties reach new heights

Also, mixing and matching does not produce better products, it can frequently destroy a good product“as has been the case with the Sukhoi 30,” Mitra added.

Where Israel can contribute meaningfully is technological development and training. India’ training institutes turn out non-innovative and relatively unskilled graduates who cannot meet present day demands for skills and innovativeness.

Education and skill development have been part of Indo-Israeli deals but these have to be put in the forefront and not be relegated to the back burner as in the past.

http://southasianmonitor.com/2017/07/05/intimacy-israel-scares-indian-muslims/

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They will fool them just as they did 1400 years ago. And in last, they will get defeated and drage Indians in and will make Indians partners in their embarrassment, just as happened 1400 years ago. For us, Indian-Israeli alliance is a good sign and a sign of victory for us. So here is my prediction, first Israelis get beaten hard, and them will come Indias number.
 
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They will fool them just as they did 1400 years ago. And in last, they will get defeated and drage Indians in and will make Indians partners in their embarrassment, just as happened 1400 years ago. For us, Indian-Israeli alliance is a good sign and a sign of victory for us. So here is my prediction, first Israelis get beaten hard, and them will come Indias number.

I'm afraid some people won't even exist to see the so called last of Israel. LOL :p:
 
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They will fool them just as they did 1400 years ago. And in last, they will get defeated and drage Indians in and will make Indians partners in their embarrassment, just as happened 1400 years ago. For us, Indian-Israeli alliance is a good sign and a sign of victory for us. So here is my prediction, first Israelis get beaten hard, and them will come Indias number.

Defeated ??? Lol , non of the "Muslim Ummah" today has the "AUKAAT" to even stand up against Israel.
 
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They will fool them just as they did 1400 years ago. And in last, they will get defeated and drage Indians in and will make Indians partners in their embarrassment, just as happened 1400 years ago. For us, Indian-Israeli alliance is a good sign and a sign of victory for us. So here is my prediction, first Israelis get beaten hard, and them will come Indias number.

The level of delusion is too damn high.
 
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Why so many a$$es are burning? We have excellent relations with Saudi and Iran too, if not anything neighbors could learn a thing or two about diplomacy from us.
 
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Defeated ??? Lol , non of the "Muslim Ummah" today has the "AUKAAT" to even stand up against Israel.
The word "Today" is of great significance.
Few days back we didnt have the aukat of many things which we have today. Tomorrow, God knows. But few things are known to us muslims and them(israelis). And things are progressing very fast towards those events and foretellen things to be taken place. You will see if you survived 30 years more.
 
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The word "Today" is of great significance.
Few days back we didnt have the aukat of many things which we have today. Tomorrow, God knows. But few things are known to us muslims and them(israelis). And things are progressing very fast towards those events and foretellen things to be taken place. You will see if you survived 30 years more.

Lol, its the investment in the citizens which count.

And Madarsa Graduates will ensure that the situation of today continues , forever.
 
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India & Israel are natural allies and are against Muslims because Muslims ruled that areas(both Palestine and India for centuries) for long time and both Jews and Hindus never had any real privilege in history like that and both are desperate to be some kind of greater Israel/India which is not at all possible, they are jumping high in the skies now a days because Muslims are divided and these jumps will soon end when they will get a usual treatment(Kick in the ***) like they are use to receive from Muslims in long history.
Muslims in all over the globe are in deep sleep now and this is only matter of time, Awakening is near.
 
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