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Please.... 'the I can't be racist because I have a black friend' defence?



It doesn't look bad, it's perfectly understandable and perfectly wrong.



This is what Jana and I were talking about.


A friend and a relation (brother's wife, if you will) is totally a different thing.

I don't think the links are wrong in their perception.

I daresay Jana is the last word in anything. I would rather reserve my comment.
 
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Yes, things are complex and so this interaction helps to understand the other side a bit better.

I didn't claim any righteousness, I just explained the motives of India's actions as I see them.

How else do you read this honestly.

India has never been a part of any anti China alliance (same can't be said about China though). It may be compelled to do that if the situation gets out of hand.
 
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so they are supposed to base their understanding on all such sources which favour their own point of view on China. Since US and many of its western allies are glove in hands against Chinese progress hence you see their sources in conformation with Indian ones so there aint many neutral ones

That is a classic logical fallacy, ad hominem. You're incapable of putting up a detailed rebuttal, thus adopting the easy route of attacking the source. The sources being of US and Europe origin have nothing to do with the logical merits of the opponent's arguments or assertions.
 
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Good that you put a qualifier in.

I do not normally act as the last word in the world as some do on forums.

It is normally polite to be as humble as one can be.

Talent is God given. Be humble. Fame is man-given. Be grateful. Conceit is self-given. Be careful.

That is what guides me.

Believe in yourself! Have faith in your abilities! Without a humble but reasonable confidence in your own abilities you cannot be successful or happy.
 
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1. Population planning in an overcrowded nation is required. No quibbles on that.

However, it is not ideal to do so through a diktat. The better mode would be the democratic way i.e. which persuades the people to understand the negativity of having large families for themselves as also for the Nation.

Giving a diktat only leads to malpractices. This would not have happened if it was done by persuasion:



The above would indicate the malpractice and social problems that can happen if there are Govt diktats to the population and not persuasion as is done in democracies.

In India, we are also overpopulated, but it is being done with persuasion through public awareness programmes. To prevent gender selection so that there are only male children, sonography for sex determination of the foetus is forbidden and illegal.

Of course, a Govt diktat with fines and education deprivation will have instant success, though with the disadvantage of having an huge surplus of males leading to social imbalance and socially harmful activities.

2. No one care about religion in China?

If so, what do you mean Buddhists are not monitored? Does that not mean that there are Buddhists and does the fact that they are not monitored not mean that the said Buddhists practice their religion? Contradiction in your statement, if I may say.

You state that Buddhists are not monitored. Applicable to the Tibetans or are they the terrorists you allude to and hence don’t exist? Does it mean that Chinese don’t have Christians and Muslims? If they are there, are they not citizens of China? Or are you suggesting that they are not recognised that they also exist. Are there not the Muslim Huis. even if you wish to classify the Uyghurs as ‘terrorists’.

Now, if there were no religion and no Christians, then maybe this could be explained.




By the way, are there not clandestine ‘house’ churches in China that are there to avoid Govt monitoring?

3. Censorship is 100% and you say you agree on the degree. You also state that English sites are not censored.

What is the reason why English sites are not censored if Chinese sites are? I have not understood the logic. Does it mean that all who understand English are pro Government and pro CCP people and Communist Party cardholders?

Whatever is the case, could this be explained since this report and your comments are at divergence and so to a layman, as me, it is convoluted.



4. Compensation is always paid you state. The issue is fair compensation as per the market rates.

As far as demolition on illegally occupied area is concerned, one can understand. There are enough of sites to indicate how even property owned by people are forcibly demolished in connivance with the authorities.

There are many links one could append to include of people committing suicide over the issue or even being murdered.

Let me give only one report from China. Org.



I am sure a century old hutongs are not on illegal occupation of land.

5. I am surprised that you are not aware of many countries where the education is multilingual. As a starter it is suffice to mention India, Spain, Philippines, Africa, France et al.

Just Google.



I would also like to add that many are unconformable with Chinese posters since they pass off justifications that prove to be outright wrong that even is not supported by the Chinese media!

It creates a trust deficit and so even if a Chinese poster is telling the facts right, there is always the doubt that it one of those fast one off the cuff.

Not losing face is an important of Chinese psychology, but then distorting facts is even worse.

Lastly, there is no country that is absolutely perfect, no matter how much we love our country!!

Look, I can't talk about small exceptions because they will exist in a nation of 1.3 billion. By selectively filtering news you can make any viewpoint in the world seem valid. You have also not understood this:

1.) demolitions of legally occupied property can proceed when the government decides fit, but compensation is to be paid.
2.) demolitions of illegally occupied land will not be compensated.

You have not refuted my point. They were even talking about compensation deduction in the article.

On censorship: 80% of Chinese people know no English at all. Of the 20% remaining, it is questionable how many have a working knowledge of English. There is no need to block most English websites.

I'm not getting your convoluted statement. I have distorted no facts, but instead you have selectively filtered news in order to advance your biased viewpoint. It is no surprise then that India has the highest rates of academic fraud in the world.

<i>Rates</i> of Scientific Fraud Retractions - Deep Thoughts and Silliness Blog | Nature Publishing Group
 
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China has weathered all the challenges the world has to throw at her and prospered--Wall Street crash, Sichuan earthquake, uprisings and terrorism. If Indians want to call China a failing nation, then India must be a failed nation!
 
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That is quite an understatement.

I dare to be true: nothing can need a lie.

I might add that the truth is the most valuable thing we have, so I try to conserve it.

Therefore, seek within and you will have the answer.

It is also important that many forget that a lie may take care of the present, but it has no future.

Maybe one could observe the posts and realise.

That is why I back up with links while many rely on 'gut feelings' and delude themselves that they are Jesus giving the Sermon of the Mount.
 
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I dare to be true: nothing can need a lie.

I might add that the truth is the most valuable thing we have, so I try to conserve it.

Therefore, seek within and you will have the answer.

It is also important that many forget that a lie may take care of the present, but it has no future.

Maybe one could observe the posts and realise.

A bit conceited if you think everything you say is true and everyone is a lier.
 
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It is no surprise then that India has the highest rates of academic fraud in the world.

<i>Rates</i> of Scientific Fraud Retractions - Deep Thoughts and Silliness Blog | Nature Publishing Group

If I were a Chinese I wouldn't have been so proudly putting up a chart where I also score pretty bad. But then again, impudence seems to come naturally for you guys.
 
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If I were a Chinese I wouldn't have been so proudly putting up a chart where I also score pretty bad. But then again, impudence seems to come naturally for you guys.

Yet you guys make fun of us when you are worse off. So who is more impudent here.
 
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