A resurgent Japan can ensure lasting peace in Asia

[Reashot Xigwin]

A resurgent Japan means that the US can focus more resources on containing Russia.

 

[Aepsilons]

.bcs CN Qing dynasty collapsed at that time,too.

Not really so simple as you try to portray, friend. On an individual basis, yes, China could have resisted any single power. However, during this time, multiple alien entities (western, imperialists) such as the english, french, germany, dutch, spanish, american, and even russian descended on China like locust --- all vying to assert their individual spheres of interests in China. So, my friend, you should understand that the french imposed themselves only after the british defeated thine qing during the opium war.

so yes, you need to do some more research before making very basic generalizations on a rather complex historical period for east asia.

A resurgent Japan means that the US can focus more resources on containing Russia.

That would be contradictory to any resurgent Japanese administrations , however. Ultimately, Japan's long term goal is to normalize relations with Russia.

What the United States is finding out now -- and will be exacerbated further in the future is that Japan will not necessarily play fiddle with Washington.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Not really so simple as you try to portray, friend. On an individual basis, yes, China could have resisted any single power. However, during this time, multiple alien entities (western, imperialists) such as the english, french, germany, dutch, spanish, american, and even russian descended on China like locust --- all vying to assert their individual spheres of interests in China. So, my friend, you should understand that the french imposed themselves only after the british defeated thine qing during the opium war.

so yes, you need to do some more research before making very basic generalizations on a rather complex historical period for east asia.



That would be contradictory to any resurgent Japanese administrations , however. Ultimately, Japan's long term goal is to normalize relations with Russia.

What the United States is finding out now -- and will be exacerbated further in the future is that Japan will not necessarily play fiddle with Washington.

Oki, but I just wanna tell u that Vnese know US is too strong to go against now. Just like JP, US is greatest threat to VN. Losing half of VN again is too bad already.

And a "resugent Japan" only mean that US give more power for JP, so JP can stop Russia-CN for US. US is too strong, she still control JP now.

 

[Aepsilons]

And a "resugent Japan" only mean that US give more power for JP, so JP can stop Russia-CN for US. US is too strong, she still control JP now.

Aikido, my friend. Aikido. Learn the principles of Aikido.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Aikido, my friend. Aikido. Learn the principles of Aikido.

On the pictures, the old man is as tall as the young guy.

...if he was just 1/10 of the young guy's size, then Aikido is useless

 

[Aepsilons]

On the pictures, the old man is as tall as the young guy.

...if he was just 1/10 of the young guy's size, then Aikido is useless

Go eat Pho.

 

[Skull and Bones]

China-Japan-India-Russia should form a coalition for economic prosperity and military security against terrorism and outside threats.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

refrain from trolling guys post your opposition gracefully

 

[Aepsilons]

On the pictures, the old man is as tall as the young guy.

...if he was just 1/10 of the young guy's size, then Aikido is useless

Size matters not in Aikido.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Reminds me of my undergraduate days, actually. I had a professor who was a Soviet specialist; i remember attending one of his classes and he said something that i will never forget, "The greatest threat to Japan was never the Soviet Union, nor the threat of China. It was, it is, and it shall always be -- the United States."

At the time, to hear such a statement was radical thinking, but the more i grew and absorbed various philosophies while studying abroad , the more i have come to identify with the viewpoint of my then-professor.

In fact , immediately after 1946, Japan and the Soviet Union had developed friendlier relations , and as relations blossomed further in 1949, Japan and the USSR had discussed in high level talks to promote fishing rights for both sides in each other's contiguous maritime waters. As early as 1949, actually, the USSR had offered to return all islands of the Kuril Islands back to Japan after both were to sign and promulgate a formalized Peace Treaty.

The United States , in an effort to prevent any jeopardizing its hold on Japan and supremacy in the Pacific, cajoled and arm twisted the Administration of Yoshida Shigeru to signing the Treaty of Mutual Defense, which was a design by the Americans to target the USSR. Relations between Japan and the USSR deteriorated afterwards, thus securing Washington's hold. Later in the 1960s when relations between Japan and the USSR developed further , under the administrations of Ikeda, Sato and Tanaka --- Soviet Japanese plans of signing the peace treaty was yet again thwarted by American interventionism of pressuring Tokyo to "focus" on its MDT responsibilities.

Historically speaking, @TaiShang , as you can see, American state actors have played a nefarious and insidious role in thwarting natural progression of Japanese state interests to suit the American strategic interests, not Japan's, actually.

One thing is clear tho, despite Washington consternation, Tokyo went ahead to facilitate greater relations with China via the Sino-Japanese Communique of 1972, then later in the Treaty of Peace and Friendship of 1978. Its funny really when one thinks about it --- Japan had the strength to resist Washington state actors in regards to Sino-Japanese relations.

One can have faith that in the future, as American hold and influence in Japan continues to deteriorate (as has happened and as is happening) , we can expect Japan to normalize relations with Russia; something it should have done as early as 1949, actually.

That is a questionable analysis for a PhD educated person. The reason why Japan so willingly accepted American occupation between 1945-1952 is because of the imminent Soviet threat. In fact, Russia was always seen as the greatest threat to Japan ever since Japan's opening in 1850s.

While American military presence in Japan was to strengthen US's strategic position, Japan also agreed to it because it gave them bargaining in the economic sphere.

Also, the Sino-Japanese Communique of 1972 happen after Nixon's historical visit to PRC, it would not have happen otherwise.

While America certainly has a lot of influence in Japanese domestic politics, it does not really mean that Japan is not an independent state actor. Its just that friendly relations with US is Japan's best interest as it will guarantee access to world's largest market, free trade, stability in East Asia.

 

[LeGenD]

Reminds me of my undergraduate days, actually. I had a professor who was a Soviet specialist; i remember attending one of his classes and he said something that i will never forget, "The greatest threat to Japan was never the Soviet Union, nor the threat of China. It was, it is, and it shall always be -- the United States."

At the time, to hear such a statement was radical thinking, but the more i grew and absorbed various philosophies while studying abroad , the more i have come to identify with the viewpoint of my then-professor.

In fact , immediately after 1946, Japan and the Soviet Union had developed friendlier relations , and as relations blossomed further in 1949, Japan and the USSR had discussed in high level talks to promote fishing rights for both sides in each other's contiguous maritime waters. As early as 1949, actually, the USSR had offered to return all islands of the Kuril Islands back to Japan after both were to sign and promulgate a formalized Peace Treaty.

The United States , in an effort to prevent any jeopardizing its hold on Japan and supremacy in the Pacific, cajoled and arm twisted the Administration of Yoshida Shigeru to signing the Treaty of Mutual Defense, which was a design by the Americans to target the USSR. Relations between Japan and the USSR deteriorated afterwards, thus securing Washington's hold. Later in the 1960s when relations between Japan and the USSR developed further , under the administrations of Ikeda, Sato and Tanaka --- Soviet Japanese plans of signing the peace treaty was yet again thwarted by American interventionism of pressuring Tokyo to "focus" on its MDT responsibilities.

Historically speaking, @TaiShang , as you can see, American state actors have played a nefarious and insidious role in thwarting natural progression of Japanese state interests to suit the American strategic interests, not Japan's, actually.

One thing is clear tho, despite Washington consternation, Tokyo went ahead to facilitate greater relations with China via the Sino-Japanese Communique of 1972, then later in the Treaty of Peace and Friendship of 1978. Its funny really when one thinks about it --- Japan had the strength to resist Washington state actors in regards to Sino-Japanese relations.

One can have faith that in the future, as American hold and influence in Japan continues to deteriorate (as has happened and as is happening) , we can expect Japan to normalize relations with Russia; something it should have done as early as 1949, actually.

Thanks for the share.

Even though US had differences with China in the matter of Korean peninsula, US perceived China as a rival of USSR (a necessary evil). Therefore, it is not surprising that US granted Japan some flexibility in mending its ties with China at some point. However, USSR was a 'no' in absolute terms.

Other then the above, you have a point. Americans actually fear a strong and independent Japan; they want to keep the Japanese nation pliant and indoctrinated.

I understand that Japanese history comprises of dark deeds but this doesn't justifies American designs for the Japanese. Americans raised several Japanese cities to the ground (two with atomic bombs) during WW-II but Japanese should feel guilty?

Its time for Japanese nation to develop independent thinking and nationalism. Its time to put an end to American narrative.

 

[Aepsilons]

Thanks for the share.

Even though US had differences with China in the matter of Korean peninsula, US perceived China as rival of USSR (a necessary evil). Therefore, it is not surprising that US granted Japan some flexibility in mending its ties with China at some point. However, USSR was a 'no' in absolute terms.

Other then the above, you are up to he point. Americans actually fear a strong and independent Japan; they want to keep the Japanese nation pliant and indoctrinated.

I understand that Japanese history comprises of dark deeds but this doesn't justifies American designs for the Japanese. Americans raised several Japanese cities to the ground (two with atomic bombs) during WW-II but Japanese should feel guilty?

Its time for Japanese nation to develop independent thinking and nationalism. Its time to put an end to American narrative.

*applause*

 

[S10]

"A resurgent Japan can ensure lasting peace in Asia"

Amazing! You managed to include a fantasy and a joke in such a short title.

 

[Aepsilons]

"A resurgent Japan can ensure lasting peace in Asia"

Amazing! You managed to include a fantasy and a joke in such a short title.

I didn't write the article, the press correspondent did . I merely shared it.

Tho I must admit I agree with major points of said article.

 

[Ewok6102]

...if he was just 1/10 of the young guy's size, then Aikido is useless

Wisdom of thousands of years against that of a few hundred. Use wisdom my friend.