A recent protest of Baluch on missing persons

[gangsta_rap]

It is disturbing to see this - but then we think about how things have played out in the past while
Mama qadeer for example - at face value seemed he like a gentle man simply trying to speak out for those who can't
but then we had learned that he was simply part of a greater deception that had been plaguing the province for years

 

[El Sidd]

Hope things get solved for her.

There should be a mechanism for mainstreaming them and not let another generation fall for propaganda.

 

[Khan_21]

At times you also see families of innocent people waiting outside police stations and courts for justice. Shahzeb Khan. Umme Rubab Chandio
Khadija Siddiqui.

Do not be so hasty to judge. These Baloch people are our own countrymen.

Somehow if you say something against the establishment on this forum people will start saying you are paid , agent of raw and Mossad and all sorts of crap. There are genuine greivences in Balochistan and FATA with the establishment. IDK why people get insecure with it. They think Pakistan is scandianavia utopia where the establishment has done no wrong

 

[Aspen]

I would want the PDF members to also understand that there is a possibility that the women in such videos could be crying for real. It is possible that they just dont know that their men have defected to anti-state organizations due to poverty and funding by foreign agencies.

Their is obviously no doubt that there is a very systematic campaign running against the armed forces, specially with regard to missing persons, but there is also another side of the story : the lack of proper governance and political representation of Balochistan.

I hope crying people in Balochistan find out that their men have indeed gone to the dark side and the armed forces are not the one to blame. (So many pictures emerge if missing persons in BLA propaganda videos).

I also hope that the current government ( or the current army chief, depending on who is in charge of Balochistan's well being ) come up with a long term solution for the underdevelopment and poverty in Balochistan.

Everyone should have the right to an unbiased and free trial in a Pakistan, but I think that the judicial system of Pakistan has failed us so many times that the establishment just cannot find a better way to neutralize threats to national security without being branded as tyrants.

Absolutely agree

Most people on PDF are too stupid to understand that if someone in their family defected without them knowing, they would be worried not knowing what has happened. It is easy to sit here and judge but most of these people's families probably had no idea what kind of evil life they led. Pakistan intelligence should at least do them the favor and tell their families why they were killed so they can move on with their life, then I have no problem with it.

 

[Amaa'n]

This protest in Pakistan. @Foxtrot Alpha ... what is the solution . It's literally bleed my heart.

so sad .
if they are terrorists kill them and tell their families ,
why keep them in missing list ?

Somehow if you say something against the establishment on this forum people will start saying you are paid , agent of raw and Mossad and all sorts of crap. There are genuine greivences in Balochistan and FATA with the establishment. IDK why people get insecure with it. They think Pakistan is scandianavia utopia where the establishment has done no wrong

the issue is that you can't attribute every missing person to the Security Forces...situation in Balochistan is complex and not easy to understand...

 

[Aspen]

Somehow if you say something against the establishment on this forum people will start saying you are paid , agent of raw and Mossad and all sorts of crap. There are genuine greivences in Balochistan and FATA with the establishment. IDK why people get insecure with it. They think Pakistan is scandianavia utopia where the establishment has done no wrong

Finally somebody gets it

 

[Moonlight]

Somehow if you say something against the establishment on this forum people will start saying you are paid , agent of raw and Mossad and all sorts of crap. There are genuine greivences in Balochistan and FATA with the establishment. IDK why people get insecure with it. They think Pakistan is scandianavia utopia where the establishment has done no wrong

It is not about stating your opinion that carries a message showing you’re against establishment. The actual problem is, people blame establishment for everything. We are never ready to accept the failure of other institutions and the onus they couldn’t effectuate. Establishment is blamed again for the failure of all the other institutions. That is very problem starts and one group gets anti establishment and one gets pro.

 

[HAIDER]

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the issue is that you can't attribute every missing person to the Security Forces...situation in Balochistan is complex and not easy to understand...

We see huge communication gap between courts and law enforcing agencies. Plus under the criminal or terrorist act, they suppose to handover to ATC court and when they get penalized. In next stage the cases challenge in civil court and when our civil courts takeover the case from that point we see issues generated. But there should be a proper channel where there families should be informed about the charges.
We had living example of ex CJ Chaudary who released hardcore terrorist and later few on them did suicide attack on Musharraf. I see system need to be fixed and issues need to addressed on proper platform.


PS. They are Pakistani and we should address the grievance. No one is allowed to disrespect these poor families. This girl is Pakistani and our flesh and blood. RESPECT.

 

[Max]

If they are alive and have not join any terrorist camp in some afghan cave, they should be presented before court... maybe a military court (bcoz Pakistani don't trust civil judiciary with such matters)..

Till we have Marxist pigs in our universities and extremists in our madrassa they will keep brainwashing our youth. We Need strong nationalist student unions who support patriotism instead of tribal barbarianism.

 

[arjunk]

We need more disappeared, not less.

So you want more poor people from innocent families to go and terrorise others?

 

[Cliftonite]

It is disturbing to see this - but then we think about how things have played out in the past while
Mama qadeer for example - at face value seemed he like a gentle man simply trying to speak out for those who can't
but then we had learned that he was simply part of a greater deception that had been plaguing the province for years

Very true.

 

[Cliftonite]

This will only alienate the Balochis even more. Has our state really not learnt anything from 1971? Military action is never the solution except for an external enemy. A political solution needs to be carried out.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

So you want more poor people from innocent families to go and terrorise others?

There are many more agents of foreign agencies which need to be taken care of.

I don't have any sympathy for these people.

 

[fitpOsitive]

This protest in Pakistan. @Foxtrot Alpha ... what is the solution . It's literally bleed my heart.

That's all we are reaping for turning our backs to the problems our people are facing. And such environments provide perfect opportunities for enemy.
These might be living somewhere in Europe, or may be in India, but its we who gave people such an opportunity.

 

[bananarepublic]

It is not about stating your opinion that carries a message showing you’re against establishment. The actual problem is, people blame establishment for everything. We are never ready to accept the failure of other institutions and the onus they couldn’t effectuate. Establishment is blamed again for the failure of all the other institutions. That is very problem starts and one group gets anti establishment and one gets pro.

The "Establishment" or whatever you want to call it has overarching control over all of the government institutions. Many of the current problems are the effect of certain actions, these actions caused what is Right now Pakistan's internal problems. Foreign Influence's just took advantage of what was already brewing inside the country.
I am sick and tired of problems caused by us ,as some foreign conspiracy the problems were already there they just doused the small kindle with barrels and barrels of oil.