A post Islamic Iran will be more dangerous to Pakistan.

[Old School]

I agree secular Iranian nationalists are delusional like the turanians and Islamists but not all of them are imperialists. As for Islam it’s gonna be wiped out from Iran since Iranians are converting to Christianity or atheism some of them are irreligious but they are cultural Zoroastrians.

Those few non imperialist Persian will not have any say in the policy making in the pro West anti Islamic Iran. That country will be then run by the pork eating Hawks.

 

[dani92]

The Persian nationalists are scum. Most definitely. More loyal to West than Shah himself. This is a very special and unique breed. I have known quite a few.

No Persian nationalists at least many of them the true ones they don’t like the west because they want to build Iranian empire and they accuse the west of destroying Iran historically the west interfered in Iran since the beginning of 19th century to this day historically the west stopped Iranian oil nationalization, stole Iranian wealth by signing agreements with the Qatar’s giving Iranian oil, sugar and Tobacco to Europeans, invading Iran in ww1 causing famine, invading it again in ww2 and taking the oil and other products to supply their troops and many things.

Those few non imperialist Persian will not have any say in the policy making in the pro West anti Islamic Iran. That country will be then run by the pork eating Hawks.

Well you have turkey doing that so Iran wouldn’t be any different.

 

[Yankee-stani]

I agree secular Iranian nationalists are delusional like the turanians and Islamists but not all of them are imperialists. As for Islam it’s gonna be wiped out from Iran since Iranians are converting to Christianity or atheism some of them are irreligious but they are cultural Zoroastrians.

That's more an Iranian diaspora that's converting to Evangelical Christianity or neo Zoroastrianism the regime as of now is staying and in general Iranian I mean real Iranians in the provinces are still believers on deen Tehrani liberals are small fraction the diaspora will gradually lose link to their homeland they will be plastic Persians like Plastic Irish paddys

No Persian nationalists at least many of them the true ones they don’t like the west because they want to build Iranian empire and they accuse the west of destroying Iran historically the west interfered in Iran since the beginning of 19th century to this day historically the west stopped Iranian oil nationalization, stole Iranian wealth by signing agreements with the Qatar’s giving Iranian oil, sugar and Tobacco to Europeans, invading Iran in ww1 causing famine, invading it again in ww2 and taking the oil and other products to supply their troops and many things.


Well you have turkey doing that so Iran wouldn’t be any different.

Those are mainly on online fourms mostly again thats not an actual reflection of reality most are Pahalvists in real life

 

[Old School]

We all know that DG ISPR made it very clear that Pakistan will remain neutral in upcoming conflicts between Iran and the west. He actually said it keeping the bigger picture in his mind. Try to decode his important message which represents quite similar what is being discussed in this thread.

Well you have turkey doing that so Iran wouldn’t be any different.

We do not share long border with Turkey as we do with Iran. Even out control Erdogan runs the risk of being replaced by pro western Iran which might be invited by NATO to join the alliance along with Georgia and Azarbijan. So, Putin should pay attention too.

 

[El Sidd]

So what did you guys decide on the fate of Iranians?

 

[khansaheeb]

This is what i posted in another thread you are right any western sponsored Regime change would be disastrous for us. Iranians need to get rid of Hardliners and open up.

If the hardliners are gone it would mean disaster for Pakistan. The so called hardliners have maintained disciplined and sane relationship with Pakistan for a long time and we have had cordial relationship with some ups and downs due to Afghanistan and India. A new regime could well create havoc in Baluchistan and tension on the Iranian border and may even stir up the Shias within Pakistan. The true target of colonial change is Pakistan and Iran is just a tool. The Zions have successfully Sunni/Shia divided the region and now want them to fight like dogs so both weakened could be put down easily.

 

[LeGenD]

There is a western backed regime change process rapidly unfolding in Iran in the forms of targeted assassinations and color revolution. Our ties with Iran have been far from being on the same page since birth in 1947. Iran's foreign policies involving Afghanistan and India have not been in line with ours as these two neighbors in the east and west are the most strategically crucial factor for the very survival of the state of Pakistan.
The big question is if the Islamic regime falls in Iran and it is replaced by a pro West secular regime, how it is going to impact our strategic interests. Are we going to see an Iranian Modi in our western frontier?

Do you recall the Axis of Evil highlight of George W. Bush?

- Iraq
- Iran
- North Korea

They are done with Iraq. Now they have time and space to focus on Iran.

Pakistan need to keep its distance from potential US-Iranian conflict.

1. Seal Pak-Iran border in full.

2. Do not allow potential Iranian refugees to pour in.

3. Do not allow Pakistani territory to be used for war in Iran.

4. Continue to fence Durand Line.

5. Deploy UAV in large numbers on aforementioned borders to monitor activity around them. Privatize this initiative, if necessary.

WE can ride through this storm as well.

If WE allow potential Iranian refugees to pour in, WE will be doomed for sure. Bad Apples will definitely slip through to ruin Balochistan. So NO.

 

[B.K.N]

So what did you guys decide on the fate of Iranians?

They have decided that secular Iranians eat pork watch Bollywood love Indians and consider Pakistanis inferior so supporting religious Iranians is in the best interest of Pakistan. And secular Iranians would try to annex some parts of Pakistan the same parts where Iranians need Pakistan's help to defend their own revolutionary soldiers.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Post-Islamic Iran like pre-post-Islamic Iran wouldn't give a shit about Pakistan. You have nothing to worry about.

Exactly religious sentiments doesn't make any difference if our mutual interests and trade relations are good.
Secular government will be good for iranis in general because what I observed is that Iranian people are far less religious than khameini regime.

 

[fitpOsitive]

There is a western backed regime change process rapidly unfolding in Iran in the forms of targeted assassinations and color revolution. Our ties with Iran have been far from being on the same page since birth in 1947. Iran's foreign policies involving Afghanistan and India have not been in line with ours as these two neighbors in the east and west are the most strategically crucial factor for the very survival of the state of Pakistan.
The big question is if the Islamic regime falls in Iran and it is replaced by a pro West secular regime, how it is going to impact our strategic interests. Are we going to see an Iranian Modi in our western frontier?

I don't know why we are unable to see Wests hand in Iranian revolution. Khumani is west's product. There is no plan to change it. But yes, let's wonder why there is Shia regime in Iran, from where it came, what happened after that.
Isreal divided Muslim world in 2 pieces, and this shia Islamic regime plus the Saudi Islamic regime(imported from west as well) divided and destroyed Muslim world entirely.
So let's not see things as western media wants us to see it.

 

[Meengla]

People are forgetting here that Iranians are by no means interested in seeing conflict or turmoil in Pakistan. If something ever happens it will most definitely spill over to them and cause them to end up in a bad situation too. I think the feeling is definitely mutual as we don't want any trouble in the region either.

Yes.
Having even low-level border issues do much more harm to both countries involved, regardless of the locations of the countries in the world: Hampering tourism, slowing trade, investment into security personnel and infrastructure, lessening of people to people connections, potential for 3rd parties to take advantage of the tensions...

So I don't see how Iran will be significantly more hostile to Pakistan if there is change in govt from the current Mullah-regime to some secular one. However, I'd welcome peace in Iran. I think the Bajwa Doctrine is that of zero-issues with Pakistan's neighbors (except, you know which neighbor!).

 

[Mentee]

So I don't see how Iran will be significantly more hostile to Pakistan if there is change in govt from the current Mullah-regime to some secular one.

Regime change would jeopardize cpec in all probability as the Uber nationalists will run towards nato for their political survival. And we don't want that to happen.

 

[Basel]

You are not a Pakistani.

If some one don't agree with your opinion the it's his right and you don't have right to insult that person, its called freedom of expression.

 

[HAIDER]

There is a western backed regime change process rapidly unfolding in Iran in the forms of targeted assassinations and color revolution. Our ties with Iran have been far from being on the same page since birth in 1947. Iran's foreign policies involving Afghanistan and India have not been in line with ours as these two neighbors in the east and west are the most strategically crucial factor for the very survival of the state of Pakistan.
The big question is if the Islamic regime falls in Iran and it is replaced by a pro West secular regime, how it is going to impact our strategic interests. Are we going to see an Iranian Modi in our western frontier?

Why so much concern about Shia in Pakistan.
Does anyone look like shia. You guys ignoring the real threat.

APS killer before rampage.

 

[Mentee]

They have decided that secular Iranians eat pork watch Bollywood love Indians and consider Pakistanis inferior so supporting religious Iranians is in the best interest of Pakistan. And secular Iranians would try to annex some parts of Pakistan the same parts where Iranians need Pakistan's help to defend their own revolutionary soldiers.

Ousting of this regime directly translates to a complete halt of cpec. No way we in our capacity should allow that to happen.