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A post Islamic Iran will be more dangerous to Pakistan.

Few points, MEK could never set foot in Iran. The Iranian people would tear them apart. Those subhuman fought with saddam against Iran.

Also, Iranians are too nationalistic. They will not allow US bases on their soil. I just can't see that happening.


It easy to say "we are patriots" "nationalists" and riff raff but America is hard on soft power and propaganda the Iranian youths in Tehran dont know life in the 1980s they were born after war they are spoiled liberals who have an easy time yes sanctions hurt but compared to what their parents went through in the 80s is nothing easily to brainwash to become soilders for the west but I am confident with the recent incidents they may change their minds
But what can PDF chest thumpers do to stop regime change in Iran. Can PDF chest thumpers stop America from attacking Iran if it wants to attack or can they stop Iranians from firing missiles at Americans?
Why you want anti Iran posters to write pro Iran comments let them say whatever they want.

I am not saying they should be pro Iran I want to give the reasoning why its a bad idea to think a regime change would mean "easy walk in the park"
 
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Don't think so...the situation in this century has generated some irrevocable differences for them with countries like Israel and Saudi Arabia (regardless of whether the current setup exists or a secular one appears). They will look westwards for the next while in an effort to protect their interests.
 
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still they will be less dangerous then namak haram afghanis
 
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That was a cold war situation. The world has changed lot since then. Even USA left Shah high and dry in the end. A pro West Iran is more likely to be pro India than it is now.

Well, if that happens, what is stopping Pakistan to go full tilt towards the Arab block instead of sitting on the fence because of Iran!!
For me, the biggest problem for us are our treacherous politicians, who had and will continue to cause harm to Pakistan if not stopped.
The latest is the meeting between Nawaz Butt and Karzai. We all know who Karzai represents.
Damn Generals had given chances to these criminals for decades. The recent favours given to Nawaz is case in point.
He fooled whole Pakistan and now doing what he does best. Stab Pakistan in its back by helping its enemies and conspiring with them to destroy Pakistan.
 
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People are forgetting here that Iranians are by no means interested in seeing conflict or turmoil in Pakistan. If something ever happens it will most definitely spill over to them and cause them to end up in a bad situation too. I think the feeling is definitely mutual as we don't want any trouble in the region either.

That's actually why the shah was supportive of Pakistan. If Pakistan would have ended up in a troubled spot rivals at the time such as the USSR or Iraq would have taken advantage of it to open a front against Iran.
 
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Well, if that happens, what is stopping Pakistan to go full tilt towards the Arab block instead of sitting on the fence because of Iran!!
For me, the biggest problem for us are our treacherous politicians, who had and will continue to cause harm to Pakistan if not stopped.
The latest is the meeting between Nawaz Butt and Karzai. We all know who Karzai represents.
Damn Generals had given chances to these criminals for decades. The recent favours given to Nawaz is case in point.
He fooled whole Pakistan and now doing what he does best. Stab Pakistan in its back by helping its enemies and conspiring with them to destroy Pakistan.

Forget about joining any blocks we are talking the expansion of US power right up our nose, you want to Americans to have a presence not just in Afghanistan who are now "claiming to leave" this will end up backfiring our plans there the Taliban talks get canned cause they get big fish "Iran" man Pakistanis are such shallow thinkers
 
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There is a western backed regime change process rapidly unfolding in Iran in the forms of targeted assassinations and color revolution. Our ties with Iran have been far from being on the same page since birth in 1947. Iran's foreign policies involving Afghanistan and India have not been in line with ours as these two neighbors in the east and west are the most strategically crucial factor for the very survival of the state of Pakistan.
The big question is if the Islamic regime falls in Iran and it is replaced by a pro West secular regime, how it is going to impact our strategic interests. Are we going to see an Iranian Modi in our western frontier?
Excellent post. I fully subscribe to the notion that a pro US Persian regime will be far worse for Pakistan than the mullahocracy. The mullahs will not cross certain lines and arguably cannot be bought to do anything the investing powers want. They do retain a partial common sense approach to local geopolitical issues. Any pro US regime will be pro-Bollywood and will become a mouthpiece and more for combined US and Indian propaganda, possibly anti-Sunni propaganda and pro-baloch-separatist propaganda also.

Iran is becoming a bit of a problem to be honest. Our strategists have taken their eye off the ball yet again.
 
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Excellent post. I fully subscribe to the notion that a pro US Persian regime will be far worse for Pakistan than the mullahocracy. The mullahs will not cross certain lines and arguably cannot be bought to do anything the investing powers want. They do retain a partial common sense approach to local geopolitical issues. Any pro US regime will be pro-Bollywood and will become a mouthpiece and more for combined US and Indian propaganda, possibly anti-Sunni propaganda and pro-baloch-separatist propaganda also.

Iran is becoming a bit of a problem to be honest. Our strategists have taken their eye off the ball yet again.
Do not forget that we also have liberal haramkhors in Pakistan who want to turn our country into a pork bazaar ! West long wanted a pork eating liberal PAKISTAN. After Iran, they will turn to Pakistan.
 
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you are talking about Karachi, i talk about Pakistan.

Mr. Wowda is Minister of Water Resources Pakistan.

Just because you imagine him chewing a paan does not mean he caters to just people of Karachi.
 
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