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A Normal Nuclear Pakistan

Is that all you could come up with?

Secondly, I'm not a troll. I've served my country with pride and distinction.

Thirdly, and most importantly I'm not an insecure, illiterate, arm chair blabber mouth like you!

Oh really? What sort of a ignorant guy would bring an odd accident that happened in an Indian nuclear power plant to tarnish image of India which is one among worlds best in civilian nuclear tech?

keep the third sentence to yourself,it fits you more.
 
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A Normal, Nuclear Pakistan
By krepon | 24 April 2014
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Mark Fitzpatrick is a highly respected, careful chronicler of nuclear proliferation. His monograph of A.Q. Khan’s activities is required reading. So, too, is his latest, Overcoming Pakistan’s Nuclear Dangers, in which he recommends that Pakistan be treated as a normal nuclear state if it facilitates the entry into force of the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, negotiation of the Fissile Material Cut-off Treaty, and helps reinforce other nuclear norms. Mark correctly identifies an intensified nuclear competition on the subcontinent as a grave danger. He reasons that by bringing India and Pakistan into the existing nuclear order, dangers might be averted. He’s right. But will inducements succeed in persuading Pakistan (and India) to accept the limits inherent in signing up to the CTBT and FMCT?

Pakistan’s official narrative is that of a reluctant, unwilling party to a nuclear competition with India. In reality, Pakistani leaders, civil as well as military, have viewed the Bomb as absolutely essential to maintain national sovereignty and territorial integrity. They rightly predicted that New Delhi would develop nuclear weapons and gain conventional military advantages, and countered by engaging in “anticipatory” proliferation.

As Mark writes, “Pakistan assumed the worst about India’s intentions and spared no effort in preparing a nuclear counterpunch.” Zulfikar Ali Bhutto’s set the wheels in motion to acquire a nuclear deterrent two years before India’s first test of a nuclear device. Pakistan produced a deliverable nuclear warhead and possessed confidence in its reliability before India’s second round of tests. Today, Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal compares favorably to that of a neighbor whose economy is eight times bigger.

Mark is tackling a significant problem that hasn’t climbed anywhere near the top of the New Delhi’s, Islamabad’s or Washington’s agenda. His book is timely because nuclear dangers will grow on the subcontinent as New Delhi applies itself far more seriously to nuclear matters in the years ahead. But I doubt that his inducements will look attractive to Pakistan — or India, for that matter. Sure, Pakistan would like to be re-branded as a normal nuclear state. But unless Pakistan’s anticipatory proliferation reflex changes, and unless its leaders demonstrate a sustained national commitment to reclaim the writ of the state against violent extremists, nuclear normalcy will elude Pakistan.

New Delhi hasn’t shown much interest in helping Pakistan become a normal, nuclear state. Negotiations over confidence-building and nuclear risk reductions measures have been desultory, easily interrupted, and long delayed. Indian and Pakistani interlocutors do not view these measures as having intrinsic value. Instead, they are chips to be played for something more important. Pakistan won’t sign the CTBT and join an FMCT without India. New Delhi has already gained the Nuclear Suppliers Group’s seal of approval without having to sign the CTBT or suspend production of bomb-making material. Why would India help usher Pakistan into the club of responsible states possessing nuclear weapons if this means curtailing capabilities against a rising China?

Defusing an arms competition requires choreographed efforts from the top-down as well as from the bottom up. Pakistan measures itself against India, while India measures itself against China. India will compete with China regardless of what Pakistan does. So, as long as Pakistan pegs its nuclear needs to what it anticipates India wants, inducements in return for treaties are unlikely to be successful. The FMCT may take years to materialize even after Pakistan lifts its veto on negotiations because both countries aren’t sure how big an arsenal they need. And the scenario providing the quickest path to the CTBT on the subcontinent (India resumes testing, followed by Pakistan, followed by signatures) would ratchet up the competition.

India’s nuclear requirements haven’t diminished after being re-branded as a normal, responsible state possessing advanced nuclear technologies via the US-India civil-nuclear deal. This deal has not yet yielded the profits for US nuclear power companies or the geopolitical gains anticipated by its backers. US arms sales to India are up, which would be the case with or without the deal. New Delhi has remained on Moscow’s good side, as evident by India’s UN vote on Russia’s seizure of the Crimea, and will avoid choosing sides between Washington and China unless Beijing becomes belligerent. US-India ties should improve under a new Indian government, but the predicted benefits of re-branding India have so far been illusory.

The arguments by backers of the civil-nuclear deal that it would be good for nonproliferation were fatuous. The deal enabled India to purchase uranium on global markets while refusing to place safeguards on no less than eight power plants as well as breeder programs. Pakistan’s anticipatory proliferation impulse kicked in once again, building a fourth plutonium production reactor and moving forward on other nuclear infrastructure projects. The dangers of deterrence and arms race stability on the subcontinent pre-dated the deal, but were compounded by it.

A civil-nuclear deal for Pakistan isn’t in the cards for many reasons, including Pakistan’s inability to pay for nuclear power plants except at the concessionary prices offered by China. Would some other way to designate Pakistan as a normal state possessing nuclear weapons produce better results that the deal given to India?

Many have tried to provide Pakistani leaders with inducements to take actions that were not perceived to be in their national security or political interests – and many have failed. If Rawalpindi were to conclude that it has sufficient nuclear capabilities to deter India, inducements might help — but they could also backfire, because those accepting favors will be accused of doing Washington’s bidding. Conversely, if Rawalpindi isn’t inclined to relax nuclear requirements, inducements will be wasted. The stewards of Pakistan’s nuclear program tell visitors that they intend to utilize sunk costs to implement planned requirements, perhaps through 2020. But this plateau could be a mirage, as requirements could continue to grow if stimulated by Indian ballistic missile defense programs or other technical advances.

Pakistan’s leaders have a choice to make: they can seek normal, neighborly ties with India or continue to engage in a nuclear competition while accommodating extremist groups that target India. Pakistan cannot become a normal state that possesses nuclear weapons unless it has good neighborly relations, and Pakistan cannot become strong without a strong economy. Until Pakistan gets its house in order, economic growth will be constrained.

These conclusions point in the direction of reclaiming the writ of the state against violent, extremist groups, vastly increasing cross-border trade, and seriously pursuing confidence-building and nuclear risk reduction measures with India. Pakistan cannot be at peace with India until it is at peace with itself. No nation can be considered normal when internal security threats grow alongside its nuclear arsenal. Here too, inducements won’t help; help can only come after Pakistani authorities make wise decisions. For Pakistan, nuclear normality begins at home; it’s not something that can be meaningfully bestowed by others.

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i whole hearty disagree with this Mark dude. I smell in his article that he is just finding ways to make Pakistan on compromise.
If i were Fatman i would have taken the trouble of sharing an article which supports our National security and steps being taken to make sure that remains secure not the otherway around.

Frankly we r now a 67 years old state and we can decide for ourselves better what is good for us and what is not.

Of course it is!! That's why they drank radioactive water!
:rofl: awesome Dude. Abu Nasar Zindabad!!!
 
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If you look at the geo-political map of the globe...

Map's outdated....

India can never think of influencing Islamosphere, establishing any extensive trade-networks, and even have any cultural presence in Islamic World. Pakistan blocks all of them.

A billion people contained in utter hopelessness....

1.Bollywood.
2. Resisted US Sanctions on Iran.
3. Gaining influence in Afghanistan.
4. Military Base in Tajik.
5. Saudi- Indian, UAE-Indian, Qatar-Indian relations at all time high.
6. More Chinese investments in India than Pakistan.
7. India's growing Middle Class, abeit slow. India's growing millionaire and billionaires.

Remember how people used to ask brown people if they're Pakistani? Now its 'OMG! I love Bollywood!'

Forgot to mention, all the Muslim Ummah soundbites that Pakistani and Arab leaders frequently say, fyi that's just to show , well..... the $million state visit was a waste of money.

Yes. all this Saudi will invest, UAE will invest, Qatar will invest, Denmark thinks Pakistan is prime place to invest but has anything actually been invested? All this MOUs and paper signing whats to show?
 
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Map's outdated....
1.Bollywood.
This is your number 1 point? masala movies which doesn't even represent 1% of Indians.
2. Resisted US Sanctions on Iran.
India has been voting against Iran, while Pakistan not
3. Gaining influence in Afghanistan.
Not worth it
4. Military Base in Tajik.
Not worth it.
5. Saudi- Indian, UAE-Indian, Qatar-Indian relations at all time high.
Again trade relations...
6. More Chinese investments in India than Pakistan.
More trade and investment is hardly surprising, they are 7 times bigger.
7. India's growing Middle Class, abeit slow. India's growing millionaire and billionaires.
Last time Asian Development Bank released report Pakistan midde class was 40% of population and India's 25%
 
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Oh really? What sort of a ignorant guy would bring an odd accident that happened in an Indian nuclear power plant to tarnish image of India which is one among worlds best in civilian nuclear tech?

keep the third sentence to yourself,it fits you more.
It's your delusions, insecurities and jealousies that brings people like you to a PAKISTANI FORUM!!!

Secondly, calling India worlds "best in civilian nuclear tech" are clear symptoms of schizophrenia and delusions of grandeur, nothing less.

I'm not tarnishing any ones image. This is one thing, you guys are quite capable of doing quite well on your own, you don't need any ones help!!
 
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India can never think of influencing Islamosphere, establishing any extensive trade-networks, and even have any cultural presence in Islamic World. Pakistan blocks all of them.
Hello!! Have heard of India-Iran gas pipeline??
 
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That's not influence, idiot.

That is an Islamic Nation (Iran) *selling* you their product.

If anything, Iran is the influential one in this case :lol:
I am talking about this sentence of your post...Mr. Douchebag

establishing any extensive trade-networks

And for the rest of your blabbering, refer to post 18.
 
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TADA!!

India, Iran and Oman Open Talks On Deep Sea Gas Pipeline | The Diplomat


BTW please don't mind as we've dropped you guys from the pipeline project.

Funny thing is that in the even of any hostilities your pipeline would be the first thing to go! Ultimately the landing point will be on the Indian west coast, thus making it easily destroyable. Nice, very nice!!

BTW please don't mind, when we blow it up in the sea.
http://thediplomat.com/2014/03/india-iran-and-oman-open-talks-on-deep-sea-gas-pipeline/
 
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Funny thing is that in the even of any hostilities your pipeline would be the first thing to go! Ultimately the landing point will be on the Indian west coast, thus making it easily destroyable. Nice, very nice!!
And aftermath would be that there will be no ports in Pakistan.

BTW please don't mind, when we blow it up in the sea.
ummm...You haven't got that aukaat.

Please don't mind my words.
 
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And aftermath would be that there will be no ports in Pakistan.


ummm...You haven't got that aukaat.

Please don't mind my words.
Don't mind my words either.

Like I said on another thread, You will find Indians suffer from delusions, paranoia and schizophrenia.
 
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