A Kargil on Pakistan Possible?

[ghauri05]

Since india is creating hype and invigorating warmongering after Pulwana incident, many possible strategies are being formed in india. Mainly considering the options of air strike, artillary/rocket fire or similar fake surgical drama as india did it last time. As india has to show something this time..something substantial other than URI bollywood movie.

One option being discussed is very interesting that india should launch a Kargil like operation against Pakistan. Is it really possible that india might try to pull out a Kargil like scenario on Pakistan and try to capture some of Azad Kashmir territory.

How real is this threat and, what if it happens, be the appropriate response from Pakistan? Can Pakistan avoid it or force india to go back? And what will be the response of world powers? In Kargil they asked Pakistan to leave the region unconditionally..how will western powers will play this time?

 

[D!nGa Ch!Ba]

Not at the moment, it's now a tomatoes war.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I see extreme threat from Bollywood "Mission Pakistan" being released this summer.

 

[karakoram]

The already selected their best but wait where is sunny deol

 

[D!nGa Ch!Ba]

The already selected their best but wait where is sunny deol

Lal Tomato kha k aen gen bus hun ne seekh he gussani hai

 

[ghauri05]

trolling indians is fun..but if we can seriously consider the topic..i think we might come to some logical solution about how to control situation in such a scenario.

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

Lal Tomato kha k aen gen bus hun ne seekh he gussani hai

My friend ( a Kashmiri) grew up trading veggies for grass with Indian soldier, lol. These poor guys were so starved that he says they used to bring cut grass for AJK folks living on the border & barter these items with grain.At first I thought he was kidding but he said he was being serious. later, several ppl from his area confirmed what he had said. In any case, he had no reason to lie to me.He said it still goes on. perhaps these tomatoes can now be rerouted to the starving soldiers.

 

[The Sandman]

Since india is creating hype and invigorating warmongering after Pulwana incident, many possible strategies are being formed in india. Mainly considering the options of air strike, artillary/rocket fire or similar fake surgical drama as india did it last time. As india has to show something this time..something substantial other than URI bollywood movie.

One option being discussed is very interesting that india should launch a Kargil like operation against Pakistan. Is it really possible that india might try to pull out a Kargil like scenario on Pakistan and try to capture some of Azad Kashmir territory.

How real is this threat and, what if it happens, be the appropriate response from Pakistan? Can Pakistan avoid it or force india to go back? And what will be the response of world powers? In Kargil they asked Pakistan to leave the region unconditionally..how will western powers will play this time?

As far as Kargil is concerned we attacked when Indian soldiers were not present in their posts things on our side are not like that i think.

Now i don't believe there will be any ground attack but cross border artillery and/or airstrikes are indeed possible because let's be honest there is immense pressure on Indian gov at the moment. Full scale war is not possible but expect extremely heavy fighting on LOC Pakistan will obv respond in a an appropriate manner but none of the party's will like to escalate the situation. Western powers will obv ask the both parties to back down like they always do.

Now as far as resolving this issue is concerned PM has offered co-operation in today's

Address.

"Today, I would like to make the Indian government an offer. Any sort of investigation you wish carried out regarding this incident about the involvement of any Pakistani, we are ready [for it].

"If you have any actionable intelligence that a Pakistani is involved, give it to us. I guarantee you that we will take action ─ not because we are under pressure, but because they [any individuals found involved] are acting as enemies of Pakistan."

"If someone is using Pakistan's soil [to carry out terror attacks elsewhere], it is [akin to] enmity with us. It is against our interests."

The prime minister added that whenever Pakistan tries to initiate dialogue with India, Delhi's precondition is that terrorism must be talked about.

"We are ready to talk about terrorism. Terrorism is a regional issue [...] We want terrorism in the region to end," he stated. "Pakistan has been the worst affected by terrorism [...] Therefore, we are ready to talk with you."

@Desert Fox @Nilgiri @Signalian guys what you say?

 

[maithil]

It has already happened and was successful. Siachen. Kargil was Coward Commando's delusional response to that. India can very well try and wrest some heights.

 

[newb3e]

Not at the moment, it's now a tomatoes war.

pakistans farmers must be really happy! tomatoes will make farmers rich this season!

 

[Hassan Guy]

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

"We are ready to talk about terrorism. Terrorism is a regional issue [...] We want terrorism in the region to end," he stated. "Pakistan has been the worst affected by terrorism [...] Therefore, we are ready to talk with you."
@Desert Fox @Nilgiri guys what you say?

A good show of statesmanship from IK. Even during the time of war you're open to peace....

 

[maithil]

As far as Kargil is concerned we attacked when Indian soldiers were not present in their posts things on our side are not like that i think.

Now i don't believe there will be any ground attack but cross border artillery and/or airstrikes are indeed possible because let's be honest there is immense pressure on Indian gov at the moment. Full scale war is not possible but expect extremely heavy fighting on LOC Pakistan will obv respond in a an appropriate manner but none of the party's will like to escalate the situation. Western powers will obv ask the both parties to back down like they always do.

Now as far as resolving this issue is concerned PM has offered co-operation in today's

Address.

"Today, I would like to make the Indian government an offer. Any sort of investigation you wish carried out regarding this incident about the involvement of any Pakistani, we are ready [for it].

"If you have any actionable intelligence that a Pakistani is involved, give it to us. I guarantee you that we will take action ─ not because we are under pressure, but because they [any individuals found involved] are acting as enemies of Pakistan."

"If someone is using Pakistan's soil [to carry out terror attacks elsewhere], it is [akin to] enmity with us. It is against our interests."

The prime minister added that whenever Pakistan tries to initiate dialogue with India, Delhi's precondition is that terrorism must be talked about.

"We are ready to talk about terrorism. Terrorism is a regional issue [...] We want terrorism in the region to end," he stated. "Pakistan has been the worst affected by terrorism [...] Therefore, we are ready to talk with you."

@Desert Fox @Nilgiri guys what you say?

Very similar statements were put out by Pakistani PMs in past as well. Indian establishment will find it very hard to believe this .On top of that, no condemnation from IK on the attack itself. Editing of the video was very bad . At least one such line should have been included to make this offer look like a serious one. Not to forget the pearls of wisdom from Railway minister about " mandir ki ghantiyan".

 

[The Sandman]

A good show of statesmanship from IK. Even during the time of war you're open to peace....

Yea he's a person who wants to avoid war till the last second. He wants trade and prosperity not war and destruction he wants peaceful relations with India and it is evident from his attempts since he came to power for example opening of "Kartarpur" corridor asking for talks. Even now in this hostile environment that has been created against Pakistan he's talking about peace.

Very similar statements were put out by Pakistani PMs in past as well.

IK is different.

Indian establishment will find it very hard to believe

They've no other choice what do they want a full blown war? I think that's not the case they understand the consequences too.

no condemnation from IK on the attack itself.

This is a really weird demand that your media is talking about why you think PM IK should condemn it? Does PM modi condemn every attack in Balochistan or any attack by BLA/BRA etc? No right? Because we both know why. Still our FO condemned it and that is enough.

Editing of the video was very bad .

Whaaat?

Not to forget the pearls of wisdom from Railway minister about " mandir ki ghantiyan".

Should i start pasting "pearls of wisdom" of Subramanian Swamy or Sambit patra regarding Pakistan? Yea let's avoid going down this path.

 

[D!nGa Ch!Ba]

My friend ( a Kashmiri) grew up trading veggies for grass with Indian soldier, lol. These poor guys were so starved that he says they used to bring cut grass for AJK folks living on the border & barter these items with grain.At first I thought he was kidding but he said he was being serious. later, several ppl from his area confirmed what he had said. In any case, he had no reason to lie to me.He said it still goes on. perhaps these tomatoes can now be rerouted to the starving soldiers.

Its Pity can I donate my two cents to these poor souls.