A Kargil on Pakistan Possible?

[Arsalan 345]

There is no surprise when you shout out the plan on media alerting your adversary.

Pakistan has cleared FATA and now baluchistan is in progress of cleansing, without a military Op. Pakistan has seen that firing pellets and shooting guns on own citizens produces Uri and Pulawama. The act of miscreants laying down weapons in Baluchistan is pinching india as same is not happening in Kashmir. Its frustrating for India that a trigger happy India is unable to control own citizens and neither a smaller country like Pakistan. The amount of troubled incidents happening in Pakistan have reduced and every year Pakistan is inching towards progress.
India being a bully and wanting to suppress Pakistan through the barrel of a gun ?and if that's not enough, blame and insult Pakistan internationally to isolate it? India should learn a lesson from Pakistan how to handle insurgency and win hearts of citizens. This is not the first time that India is giving warning and threats of military action and openly telling Pakistan what kind of action will be taken,Pakistan has been through much worse, still standing strong. India in 1971 dismembered Pakistan and dreams of doing the same again,but the leadership has changed, geo-politics has changed. Pakistan's leadership stands undeterred while Indian leadership stands egositic.

they have this feeling of destroying pakistan since the beginning.they don't accept us.we hate them equally.aman ki asha isn't possible.yes our past is a harsh reality.during kargil,we realized that we can fight with a much bigger army with the right planning.india is big,very big as compared to pakistan.i think with right strategy,it's still possible to defeat india and capture some of their area near border.problem is we lack strategy.we must formulate different strategies because this war hysteria is not something new.now the public in india is furious over modi and i think a time will come when india attack pakistan.may be tomorrow,may be after 10 years or probably 25 years but they will do it because there is always public pressure and we all know about the mentality of indians.i know strategies are present in case of attack but we must update our strategies.india is not invincible.they can be defeated.we just need proper planning and execution.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Vajpayee aa planning to attack international boundary duting kargil. We may do that same too.

 

[Riz]

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Well this will be the best solution to satisfy billions of chutis at the moment

https://twitter.com/x/status/1097897074299936768

 

[ghauri05]

If india does air strikes or rocket/missile/artillary fire across LOC or tries another suicide attack in Pakistan...All of these things Pak can handle...the particular scenario was outlined coz last time in Siachin india captured peaks and Pak is still not able to regain them..Yes india entered sneakingly ...and today it has lost element of surprise. But with all the conditions available.. this can be the toughest and most satisfying response by india to capture some part of Azad kashmir and may bargain Masud Azhar later on.

I think today's time, is a defining moment, india is wishing for a short term war for so long, and this incident has given india an opportunity..IF india tries to do a kargil like operation and Pakistan successfully defends it..then that will set the threshold for india..actually whatever adventure is carried out by india if Pakistan thwarts it...it will not only give Pakistan confidence but also Pakistan will then hit india at will. And all india will e able to do is cry.

So Pak must respond smartly and courageously to capture and prevail this defining moment.

 

[maithil]

Well this will be the best solution to satisfy billions of chutis at the moment

https://twitter.com/x/status/1097897074299936768

One can say that IK acted as chauffeur for Modi's younger brother. But that would be falling to Hamid Kid's level.

 

[Signalian]

they have this feeling of destroying pakistan since the beginning.they don't accept us.we hate them equally.aman ki asha isn't possible.yes our past is a harsh reality.during kargil,we realized that we can fight with a much bigger army with the right planning.india is big,very big as compared to pakistan.i think with right strategy,it's still possible to defeat india and capture some of their area near border.problem is we lack strategy.we must formulate different strategies because this war hysteria is not something new.now the public in india is furious over modi and i think a time will come when india attack pakistan.may be tomorrow,may be after 10 years or probably 25 years but they will do it because there is always public pressure and we all know about the mentality of indians.i know strategies are present in case of attack but we must update our strategies.india is not invincible.they can be defeated.we just need proper planning and execution.

There is one way that Pakistan can be damaged by India and that is through Baluchistan. Pakistan has no offensive plans as such. KPK, Punjab and Sindh have been secured to a great extent. Building walls helps: Its helping on durand line and building one on Baluchistan-Iran border should also help. India will lose its economic progress if a war is started, and the end result will be few thousand losing lives on both sides and a nuclear stalemate ending the war. Pakistan is already in a state of war and its economy is recovering very slowly, on the other hand Indian economy is progressing on a faster pace. Even if Pakistan goes behind 15 years, India will definitely go behind 5-7 years and its competition with China will create a massive gap. Bear in mind that India gets weak economically and militarily against China by going to war with Pakistan. Pakistan doesn't have a super power neighbor as its enemy, while India has China. China has put its stakes in CPEC, so China will have a say in the war also which complicates matters for India. China wouldn't want to lose its investment. Russia became aligned with Pakistan since USA started doubting Pakistan and withheld aid and support. Never before has Russia got this opportunity since Pakistan has stayed in USA sphere for decades. Russia wants both Pakistan and India on its side, so Russia will intervene to end the war, if it breaks out. The military threat from Iran is minimal for Pakistan since Iran's military is poised towards the Gulf states and possibly Israel. Iran gets drained dramatically if it starts a skirmish or a war with Pakistan because it knows that KSA, UAE, USA and covertly Israel will start aiding Pakistan to bleed Iran. Pakistan may even get Block 52+'s and AH-1Z as soon as this happens. Afghanistan is taking a turn towards a new era since the talk of US troops leaving its turf. In any case, the wall on durand line has curbed cross border movement.

Militarily, LOC can be made a hot zone by India but LOC doesnt give India any edge. There are peaks dominated by Pakistan, there are peaks dominated by India. So the edge is almost equal. If India causes damage in one zone, Pakistan causes damage in another zone. This is why there is no end to duels between both countries. One would have thought that India's larger military might would have routed Pakistani troops from LOC, not happening. The more troops India puts on LOC, doesn't give it any edge. Bringing in more artillery guns doesn't give any edge. Some roads and routes of India are in reach of Pakistani guns, some villages of Pakistan are in reach of Indian guns. Its a give and take situation. There is also another catch; justifying deaths of uniformed personnel is hard for any Government. So 30 killed here, 40 killed there, no out put.

Its in Baluchistan where the master stroke is to be played; since the capture of one uniformed officer, no more would be sent however hired spies, hired guns can be sent who don't belong to India but can be paid by India. They don't carry Indian insignia. In previous years, it was an open season inside Pakistan. Send a hired gun to KPK, punjab, sindh to carry out notorious activities and keep Baluchistan as trump card to be used in conjunction with Iran and Afghanistan while burning up the LOC whenever desired. Now affairs in KPK, Punjab, Sindh have been controlled. The situation is being brought under control by Pakistan in Baluchistan so the frustration is mounting across the border towards east as options are being run out.

 

[Arsalan 345]

There is one way that Pakistan can be damaged by India and that is through Baluchistan. Pakistan has no offensive plans as such. KPK, Punjab and Sindh have been secured to a great extent. Building walls helps: Its helping on durand line and building one on Baluchistan-Iran border should also help. India will lose its economic progress if a war is started, and the end result will be few thousand losing lives on both sides and a nuclear stalemate ending the war. Pakistan is already in a state of war and its economy is recovering very slowly, on the other hand Indian economy is progressing on a faster pace. Even if Pakistan goes behind 15 years, India will definitely go behind 5-7 years and its competition with China will create a massive gap. Bear in mind that India gets weak economically and militarily against China by going to war with Pakistan. Pakistan doesn't have a super power neighbor as its enemy, while India has China. China has put its stakes in CPEC, so China will have a say in the war also which complicates matters for India. China wouldn't want to lose its investment. Russia became aligned with Pakistan since USA started doubting Pakistan and withheld aid and support. Never before has Russia got this opportunity since Pakistan has stayed in USA sphere for decades. Russia wants both Pakistan and India on its side, so Russia will intervene to end the war, if it breaks out. The military threat from Iran is minimal for Pakistan since Iran's military is poised towards the Gulf states and possibly Israel. Iran gets drained dramatically if it starts a skirmish or a war with Pakistan because it knows that KSA, UAE, USA and covertly Israel will start aiding Pakistan to bleed Iran. Pakistan may even get Block 52+'s and AH-1Z as soon as this happens. Afghanistan is taking a turn towards a new era since the talk of US troops leaving its turf. In any case, the wall on durand line has curbed cross border movement.

Militarily, LOC can be made a hot zone by India but LOC doesnt give India any edge. There are peaks dominated by Pakistan, there are peaks dominated by India. So the edge is almost equal. If India causes damage in one zone, Pakistan causes damage in another zone. This is why there is no end to duels between both countries. One would have thought that India's larger military might would have routed Pakistani troops from LOC, not happening. The more troops India puts on LOC, doesn't give it any edge. Bringing in more artillery guns doesn't give any edge. Some roads and routes of India are in reach of Pakistani guns, some villages of Pakistan are in reach of Indian guns. Its a give and take situation. There is also another catch; justifying deaths of uniformed personnel is hard for any Government. So 30 killed here, 40 killed there, no out put.

Its in Baluchistan where the master stroke is to be played; since the capture of one uniformed officer, no more would be sent however hired spies, hired guns can be sent who don't belong to India but can be paid by India. They don't carry Indian insignia. In previous years, it was an open season inside Pakistan. Send a hired gun to KPK, punjab, sindh to carry out notorious activities and keep Baluchistan as trump card to be used in conjunction with Iran and Afghanistan while burning up the LOC whenever desired. Now affairs in KPK, Punjab, Sindh have been controlled. The situation is being brought under control by Pakistan in Baluchistan so the frustration is mounting across the border towards east as options are being run out.

yes recent indian iran meeting on terrorism issue and much better cooperation between the two countries is a sign of a policy change towards pakistan.i believe that iran has shifted it's policy slightly.pakistan remains neutral most of the time.india knows the weakness of pakistan.first it was afghanistan.now the decision of american withdrawal closed the doors of afghanistan for india.it needs another path to infiltrate inside pakistan and that way is balochistan.recent irani general threats shows that india and iran are on the same side against pakistan.now iran knows how dangerous it could be.

if there's any one who is not allowing united states and arabs to infiltrate inside iran,it's pakistan.iran knows the price.iran can create much bigger trouble in balochistan but at the same time,it's existence will be on the line.infiltration inside iran means compromise of security.it could mean anything.well if pakistan allows oher agencies to infiltrate then this will open new gates and more assistance not only from united states but also from arabs.i think iran should mend it's ways.joining indian camp will start a new proxy in the region.we have kulbhushan yadav and others but now iran is silent.their intelligence understands that by sending more men,they can only harm their own country.we are friends of iran for a very very long time but this recent threats of their generals,they are totally unacceptable.problem is they are listening to indian advices and india might ruin iran.