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A Historical Fact We should Proud of

Dear you said right.
Well truth is that 70% of Pakistanies take intrests in Pakistani and Muslim historical persons. The reason becuase that we (Pakistani) are not accepting the legends of other religions. I accept this is the gap which should be removed. But at the same time I can say that this will never be removed because I see the relations of India Pakistan are not going to be fine from the bottom of their hearts.
I feel both of these countries face many conflicts almost every year and prolong stess for each other
 
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I believe if people study about them they will surely be proud of those great historical persons. :)
 
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The first Global Empire was build under the Cyrus the Great, Unlike Alexander, Cyrus had no interest in killing civis! (And however it was 400 years before Alexander ever born!).

Persian Empire - Cyrus The Great - Glory of Iran - Truveo Video Search
Cyrus the Great - Legacy
Cyrus The Great - Former Things - Biblical Archaeology and The Bible
Cyrus the Great: Free Encyclopedia Articles at Questia.com Online Library
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Your information about the world empires is not correct (Read the above websites and read below books if you had time).

Persian Puzzle
All the Shahs Man
Cyrus Charter
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1.First Navy:

Neo! Romans werent exist at that time! If you have said Greeks i woud have agree with you a bit!

However its was Persia!

Persian Period in Anatolia and Asia Minor
Persian Fire: The First World Empire, Battle for the West by Tom Holland
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Calender

Georgians were part of Iran until 100 years ago and btw read here.

his article is about a device for smoothing paper. For the method of timekeeping, see calendar. A calender (or kalandar) is also an order of dervishes in Turkey and Persia.

The calender is a series of hard pressure rollers at the end of a papermaking process (on-line). Those that are used separate from the process (off-line) are also called "supercalenders". The purpose of a calender is to smooth out the paper for printing and writing on it, and to increase the gloss on the surface.

The word “calender” itself is a derivation of the word kylindros, the Greek word for “cylinder”.[1]

In the past, the paper sheets were worked on with a polished hammer or pressed between polished metal sheets in a press. With the continuously operating paper machine it became part of the process of rolling the paper (in this case also called web paper). The pressure between the rollers, the "nip pressure", can be reduced by heating the rolls and/or moistening the paper surface. This helps to keep the bulk and the stiffness of the web paper which is beneficial for its later use.

Modern calenders have "hard" heated rollers made from chilled cast iron or steel, and “soft” rollers coated with polymeric composites. This widens the working nip and distributes the specific pressure on the paper more evenly.

calender - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

Algorithm and Algebra

Muhammad Ibn Khawrazmi, Persian! Just google it!

Cement

Maybe but Iranian ones are the most expensive and with the best quality today! :D

For rest of the things read here:

Being Iranian
 
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of course, but they were indian. there was no pakistan back then, remember.
regardless of religion they are indians.

Pre partition British India was not a single country, more like a bunch of countries rule by one colonial power.

The modern State of India is not the same as Ancient, or Mughal Age India.

This topic has been exhausted on other threads, you can join the discussion there if you want.
 
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We are proud of our muslim lineage, who stood like a wall against british colonizers

I referred you to some Pakistani myths. This is another one.

Myth 5
It was the Muslims who were responsible for the war of 1857; and it was the Muslims who bore the brunt of persecution in the aftermath of the war, while the Hindus were natural collaborators of the British.

It is true that more Muslim regiments than Hindu rose up against the British in 1857. But the Hindus also played a major role in the battle (the courageous Rani of Jhansi is a prime example); and if Muslim soldiers were inflamed by the rumour that the cartridges were laced with pig fat, in the case of Hindus, the rumour was that it was cow fat. And a large number of Muslims remained loyal to the British to the very end. (The most illustrious of them being Sir Syed Ahmed Khan.)

Furthermore, the Muslims did not lose their empire after 1857. The British had already become masters of most of India before that time, having grasped vast territories from both Hindu and Muslim rulers through guile and subterfuge.

The Mughal emperor at the time was a ruler in name only; his jurisdiction did not extend beyond Delhi. After 1857, the Hindus prospered, because they were clever enough to acquire modern education, learn the English language, and take to trade and commerce. The Muslims were only land owners, wedded to the dreams of the past pomp and glory, and when their lands were taken away, they were left with nothing; their madressah education and proficiency in Persian proved to be of no help. As a matter of fact, it was a hindrance in such changing times.

Myth 6
The Muslims were in the forefront of the struggle against the British and were singled out for unfair treatment by the latter.

Not at all. In fact, the first ‘gift’ given to the Muslims by the British was in 1905 in the form of partition of Bengal (later revoked in 1911). The Shimla delegation of 1906 has rightly been called a ‘command performance’; the Muslims were assured by the viceroy of separate electorates and weightage as soon as their leaders asked for them. After that, he Muslim League came into being, established by pro-British stalwarts like the Aga Khan, Justice Amir Ali, some other nawabs and feudal lords. And the first objective of the Muslim League manifesto read: “To promote feelings of loyalty to the British government.”

The Muslim League never carried out any agitation against the British. The only time the Muslims agitated was during the Khilafat Movement in the early ‘20s, led by the Ali brothers and other radical leaders. Not a single Muslim League leader, including the Quaid-i-Azam, ever went to jail. It was the Congress which continued the anti-British non-violent and non-cooperation movement in the ‘30s and ‘40s, including the famous ‘Quit India’ movement, while Muslim League leaders continued to denounce such movements and exhorted their followers not to take part in them.

The myth of history -DAWN Magazine; March 27, 2005
 
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Pre partition British India was not a single country, more like a bunch of countries rule by one colonial power.

The modern State of India is not the same as Ancient, or Mughal Age India.

This topic has been exhausted on other threads, you can join the discussion there if you want.

You are right. It is not the same as ancient India but is the only one carrying the legacy of ancient India.

Something like Russia being the successor of USSR.
 
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Tipu Sultan is credited to have founded state trading depots in various locations of his kingdom. In addition, he founded depots in foreign locations such as Karachi, Jeddah and Muscat, where Mysore products were sold
 
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Hyder Ali was the great-grandson of an Islamic fakir from Gulbarga, Deccan
 
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I referred you to some Pakistani myths. This is another one.

Furthermore, the Muslims did not lose their empire after 1857. The British had already become masters of most of India before that time, having grasped vast territories from both Hindu and Muslim rulers through guile and subterfuge.

The myth of history -DAWN Magazine; March 27, 2005


Yes the mughals did not lose power in 1857 but rather before it. Bahadur Shah Zafar was a pensioner of East India Company. The last ruler (although weak) was Shah Alam-II. Do you know who was his prime minister?

It is important to know that the Prime Minister in whose regime mughal empire breathed its last was Sindhia, a marahatta leader. Also you must be aware of the role of a minister of Tipu Sultan, Poornia.

Practically the mughal power disappeared from subcontinent in 1764 after defeat in the Battle of Buxar at the hands of British, although it remained in name only till 1857.

The first serious shocks to the foundations of mughal empire in India were given by Nadir Shah of Iran in 1739. After this incident, the provinces like Hyderabad, Kashmir, Bengal etc became separate princely states.
 
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