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[NWO]

If we knew the answer to that, we could publish it and become rich.

Lol, we need a separate thread for the Japanese economy.

 

[Brotherhood]

Chinese take to streets, protesting Japan - People's Daily Online
September 19, 2010

Protesters hold a national flag Saturday on a street close to the Japanese embassy in Beijing in front of police, demanding that Japan release a Chinese boat captain who Beijing says has been illegally held since last week. Photo: Zhang Siyang

Around 50 protesters gathered outside the Japanese embassy in Beijing Saturday, waving the Chinese national flag and telling Japan to "get out of the Diaoyu Islands," all while marking the 79th anniversary of Japan's invasion of China.

Sirens also wailed across major Chinese cities, including Harbin, Xi'an, Changchun and Chengdu, to mark the date, which served as another chance to protest Tokyo's seizure and continued detainment of a Chinese fishing boat captain.

Ties between the two nations are at their most sensitive since former Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi visited the WWII Yasukuni Shrine five years ago, analysts in China said, though most of them noted that the recent incident would not come as a major blow to the relations.

Throughout the country, additional protests involving hundreds of Chinese, most of whom were in their 20s and 30s, took place outside the Japanese consulates.

Police officers were deployed to maintain order in various cities. No violence was reported.

"Don't forget national humiliation, don't forget September 18," some shouted, referring to the attack on the barracks of Chinese troops in Shenyang in 1931, which marked the beginning of a Japanese invasion and occupation that lasted 14 years.

In Shanghai, about 20 demonstrators protested in front of the Consulate-General of Japan amid a heavy police presence. And almost 100 people marched through downtown Shenzhen, protesting Japan's detention of the boat captain, while singing the Chinese national anthem.

About 70 protesters marched through central Hong Kong toward the Japanese consulate, chanting for the return of the ship's captain and for Japan to stop claiming sovereignty over the Diaoyu Islands, according to an AFP report.

A Chinese trawler with 15 people onboard was illegally detained by Japan after it collided with two Japanese patrol vessels September 7 off the Diaoyu Islands in the East China Sea. In all, 14 fishermen were brought to China on Monday, but the captain is still being held.

A press officer of the Japanese embassy in Beijing, told the Global Times in a telephone interview that he was aware of the demonstrations near his embassy, adding that no property damage took place.

"I hope such demonstrations will not have a negative impact on the overall development of bilateral relations between China and Japan," he said.

A 30-year-old demonstrator surnamed Chen told the Global Times that the demonstration was organized online and was meant to convey the sentiments of the Chinese people to the Japanese government.

Li Nan, a member of the China Federation for Defending the Diaoyu Islands in Beijing, told the Global Times that the demonstrations reflect the true public opinion, and mounting anti-Japanese sentiment could prevent Japan from making more provocative actions.

Feng Zhaokui, deputy director of China Society of Sino-Japanese Relations History, told the Global Times that the purpose for Japan's insisting implementing its so-called legal procedure is a mere attempt to claim its "sovereignty" over the Diaoyu Islands.

Feng said Japan may use the dispute over the South China Sea issue and China's concern about the US-South Korean joint military drill in the Yellow Sea as the opportunities to make its political gambles.

"Japan may still choose to follow the so-called legal procedure, but it should not intensify the conflict any more," Feng said. "It is a friction, but will not have a vital impact on the Sino-Japanese relationship."

Japanese newspapers were united in their view that the worsening row with China over the arrest of a Chinese fisherman in the East China Sea needed urgent attention, AFP reported.

"China has been high-handed on the issue," the Yomiuri Shimbun, Japan's biggest selling paper, said. "We hope the cabinet will stand firm and insist on what it should insist on."
Huang Dahui, a professor of Japanese politics at Renmin University of China, said Japan needs to create an atmosphere to serve its domestic political purposes and also help increase the national defense budget.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Jiang Yu confirmed Friday that China had transported some exploration equipment to the Chunxiao oil and gas field.

Jiang said China has complete sovereignty of the Chunxiao oil and gas field in the East China Sea, and any Chinese operations in the field are legal.

Feng commented that former Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama once proposed to discuss the issue of the Diaoyu Islands with China, which had been attacked by Japanese right-wing politicians. Therefore, taking his predecessor's experience, Japan's current prime minister, Naoto Kan, has to show a tough attitude toward China, he said.

"The will of the Japanese people has been distorted by Japanese media and politicians," Feng said. "And that also make pressure on the new administration."

Xinhua contributed to this story

By Chen Rui, Guo Qiang and Wang Zhaokun, Global Times

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

The Japan problem isn't really about bad policy, it's more like they made a mess in the 90's and they still don't know how to fix it.

The American government has also been worried about a "lost decade" of economic growth... after the collapse of the "property asset bubble" that led to the Credit Crunch.

The Chinese government is desperate not to fall into such a bubble, which is why they are continuously trying to "cool down" the economy nowadays.

The problem is, that we don't know how to fix this problem after it has happened, so it is best not to fall into the bubble in the first place.

 

[NWO]

What mess if Japan left over from the 1990's? The crisis ended early 2000's.

 

[below_freezing]

勿忘国耻，铭记血仇！

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

勿忘国耻，铭记血仇！

(Translation for non-Chinese: Never forget.)

 

[no_name]

Nah, I've only watched a few anime shows. (Only two I really liked.) I'm just more of romantic on the idea of military and honor. That is from reading too many novels.

'Course, that's one of the reasons I joined this forum was to find new perspectives.

Dunno if you like manga but if you are into samurai and katana I recommend you Vagabond which is an ongoing series. You can watch it online at http://unixmanga.com/onlinereading/Vagabond.html

It is a good manga but it is intended for mature audience. The plot start out with not lacking in actions but gradually it teases out more subtleties. The way of the warrior is not without sacrifices.

 

[XiaoLei]

Boycott Japanese goods,destroy Japanese economy!!!!!!!

 

[CardSharp]

^^^^^
lol.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Boycott Japanese goods,destroy Japanese economy!!!!!!!

LOL what?

The Japanese economy has been stagnant for 20 years, what more do you want us to do to them?

At the current rate, Japan will soon be dependent on us for exports and imports. We've got the upper hand, and we should keep it that way.

 

[ps80]

Boycott Japanese goods,destroy Japanese economy!!!!!!!

Sorry man....I drive a Toyota Camry...it's getting old (8 yrs now) and I am thinking of replacing it with a new Honda Accord or Mazda 6...Oops can't boycott...

On topic, RIP to the fallen soldiers!

 

[NWO]

Dunno if you like manga but if you are into samurai and katana I recommend you Vagabond which is an ongoing series. You can watch it online at READ- Vagabond -MANGA ONLINE

It is a good manga but it is intended for mature audience. The plot start out with not lacking in actions but gradually it teases out more subtleties. The way of the warrior is not without sacrifices.

Lol, you have to watch higurashi no naku koro ni, and then watch higurashi no naku koro ni kai. It's wicked. Then, move onto Umineko no naku koro ni.

 

[somebozo]

ehh its better the Japanese dont have armed forces...I am intrested in their vehicles rolling in my city not their tanks

 

[su-47]

(Translation for non-Chinese: Never forget.)

Honestly, i think this should be the message:

Forgive, not forget

Almost all the perpetrators of the crime are dead and buried. But i still see some Chinese who talk of "repaying the Japanese in kind".

If the colonial nations of Asia and Africa can forgive their old European masters, the blacks in aparthied era South Africa can forgive the whites, and even the Japanese themselves can become pro-US after being nuked, i think Chinese should forgive.

Harbouring hate will not solve any problems, but just create new ones. The new generations Chinese should not be filled with hate, IMO.

 

[somebozo]

Honestly, i think this should be the message:

Forgive, not forget

Almost all the perpetrators of the crime are dead and buried. But i still see some Chinese who talk of "repaying the Japanese in kind".

If the colonial nations of Asia and Africa can forgive their old European masters, the blacks in aparthied era South Africa can forgive the whites, and even the Japanese themselves can become pro-US after being nuked, i think Chinese should forgive.

Harbouring hate will not solve any problems, but just create new ones. The new generations Chinese should not be filled with hate, IMO.

So possibily you can stop demonizing Jinnah for chopping up so called "united India"??